AnotherAg1 said:

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So I guess the only real reason to attend an Aggie game now is to see the band. Who really cares who "wins" now?

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Throw in some alcohol and that's been the Rice experience for the better part of a century.

NewEra2023 said:

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Would rather women's gymnastics and mens wrestling or soccer. SMU is the only D1 mens soccer in Texas. Would be awesome to start the trend and compete h2h in the meantime

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I don't think you'll see new sports added anytime soon. Soonest would be post-Jimbo's contract buyout.

Interesting article on Title IX impact on the new school NIL from zoo favorite Bjork

https://sports.yahoo.com/as-player-pay-reaches-new-heights-how-will-ohio-state-navigate-uncharted-waters-134419119.html

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key change to the scholarship structure: All sports will be considered "equivalency sports," meaning partial scholarships can be distributed to players. Football, basketball and other sports are currently considered "head-count sports," which required players on scholarship to receive a full grant. "In football, you will be able to put a kid on a 50% scholarship," Bjork said. "You can't do that now."

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Also, tOSU athletes got $20mm in NIL last year

They won't be the only ones:

With revenue sharing on the horizon, Tennessee is planning to add a 10 percent “talent fee” to all tickets.https://t.co/doG4CwpFUe

— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) September 17, 2024

Judge Claudia Wilken has granted preliminary approval to the House v. NCAA settlement, which would establish a framework for college directly paying their athletes.

The final approval hearing is scheduled for April 7 -- the morning of the men's basketball championship game.

— Dan Murphy (@DanMurphyESPN) October 7, 2024

Ross Dellenger's twitter account has a great explanation of the settlement:

A thread on the NCAA's settlement in the House case.

The settlement - negotiated by plaintiffs seeking back-NIL pay and NCAA/power leagues - has 3 main parts:
1) $2.8B in back-pay to former athletes
2) $20B+ in rev-share to future athletes
3) New roster rules & enforcement arm

$2.8B in back-pay.
- spread over 10 years
- from NCAA + school distribution (NCAA Tournament money)
- distribution determined using a formula based on a player's value
- $2.3B goes to P4 FB/MBB players (avg of $120K a player over 10 years)
- Back-payments begin as soon as May

$20B+ in rev-share over 10 years.
- schools must stay under an annual cap determined thru avg of P4 revenue data
- 1st-year cap likely $21-23M per school with escalators to as high as $33M by 2035
- schools are not *required* to share revenue
- rev-share to start July 1
- schools can distribute revenue at own discretion
- most plan to use back-pay formula for distribution: 75-85% FB, 10-15% MBB, 10-15% others
- Title IX is not exempt, resulting in certain lawsuits
- revenue mostly shared by buying player NIL rights
- $2.5M of Alston pay counts toward the cap, which is why many schools plan to curtail Alston pay
- $2.5M of new scholarship money that a school adds counts toward the cap (look for schools to add more scholarships to women sports to balance Title IX)

Roster structure.
- schools to provide scholarships to full rosters under new roster limits
- roster limits changed dramatically: in FB, roster is 105 (from 85); MBB is 15 (13); BSB is 34 (11.7)
- walk-ons still exist. Ex: most SEC BSB programs to only scholarship 20-27 spots

Enforcement arm.
- Cap management system: plaintiffs/P4/NCAA to police cap requiring regular school submissions
- Clearinghouse: a non-NCAA 3rd party to approve certain non-school (booster) NIL to athletes
- Arbitration: neutral arbitrator to hear appeals on enforcement matters

Opting in/out.
- schools have a choice to opt out of settlement terms, thus prohibiting them from sharing revenue
- many FCS & basketball-playing programs plan to opt out of the settlement
- there is on-going debate on future competition between P4 schools & those that opt-out

Settlement will require NCAA rule changes. DI Council expected to:
- eliminate National Letter of Intent
- apply FB redshirt rule (can play up to 30% of a 5th season) to all sports
- permit athletes to receive prize money/pay before enrollment

A thread on the NCAA’s settlement in the House case.

The settlement - negotiated by plaintiffs seeking back-NIL pay and NCAA/power leagues - has 3 main parts:
1) $2.8B in back-pay to former athletes
2) $20B+ in rev-share to future athletes
3) New roster rules & enforcement arm

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) October 7, 2024

Project Rudy on the horizon, all about the $$$.
https://sports.yahoo.com/while-sec-and-big-ten-leaders-mull-major-changes-a-new-super-league-concept-looms-that-could-radically-alter-college-sports-130031534.html

on the horizon like the titanic.

20 more roster spots and no more letters of intent, which I guess means recruits can be poached up until they enroll for the following season.

I guess Texas' rowing program and other women's' sports are going to have to increase scholarships to account for the extra 20 in football.

national letter of intent is gone now after ncaa D1 counsel vote


players will just sign financial aid agreements and scholarship agreements. what that means is anyone's guess

So does this rev sharing supplement or essentially replace outside NIL. It says this:

revenue mostly shared by buying player NIL rights

So, schools that don't have 20 million just accept losing or quit having a team??

Logos Stick said:

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So does this rev sharing supplement or essentially replace outside NIL. It says this:

revenue mostly shared by buying player NIL rights

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supplements.

players can still do "real" NIL deals.

"real" to be decided by the "Clearinghouse: a non-NCAA 3rd party"

According to this dude, no real change from ditching NLI:

The national letter of intent for college athletes is going away.

But terms in the LOI aren’t.

They’ll be incorporated into new agreements between schools & athletes that lay out the athlete’s compensation (NIL, Alston, scholarship aid, etc.).

Will be important contracts. https://t.co/1pl87xqTq3 pic.twitter.com/pq7g8ZgzCd

— Mit Winter (@WinterSportsLaw) October 9, 2024

BMX Bandit said:

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Logos Stick said:

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So does this rev sharing supplement or essentially replace outside NIL. It says this:

revenue mostly shared by buying player NIL rights

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supplements.

players can still do "real" NIL deals.

"real" to be decided by the "Clearinghouse: a non-NCAA 3rd party"

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The settlement aims at what was confiscated by schools through inadequate licensing of individual student athlete name, images, and likenesses primarily in football and men's basketball. The proposed starting up to $21 million payout for future years is designed to combine with the scholarship and Alston (both specifically education related expenditures) to distribute roughly 50% of revenue from those sports to those athletes similar to most CBAs in the top level pro leagues in the U.S.


What is unknown about s whether Title IX will affect those payouts. Since the schools have lost suits in the past over Title IX they are very sensitive to the liability. Yes: Texas A&M lost Title IX suits…A&M was targeted first by the feds in fact.

https://today.tamu.edu/2022/07/27/title-ix-ushered-in-a-time-of-change-for-texas-ams-corps-of-cadets/

Ready for minor league football to start up by some for profit entity because it is going to get worse

And i have no problem with players getting compensated to some extent.

I don't have a problem with players getting paid either, so long as they pay for their own tuition , room and board and meet the same criteria for admission. After all, they are simply employees of the university,

StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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I don't have a problem with players getting paid either, so long as they pay for their own tuition , room and board and meet the same criteria for admission. After all, they are simply employees of the university,

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If they're simply employees of the university why would they need to meet the same criteria for admission as regular students who pay to attend?

You could think of them all as mini-Presidents of the university wherein the school will pay them and provide their housing along with other perks.

Because I don't believe they are "all" capable learning and mastering of designing houses, cars, roadways, managing a ranch, drilling for oil, practicing law or medicine. That's why they should meet the same academic admissions criteria.

some objections have been filed:

Does the NCAA's pending settlement to resolve the House class action create new legal problems—particularly cutting roster spots—in trying to fix others? A gymnast from Temple say yes and she makes a detailed objection, as does a Stanford football player: https://t.co/oJlpcW2dFr.

— Michael McCann (@McCannSportsLaw) January 27, 2025

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Kasemervisz, a wide receiver and special teams player over the last four seasons, objects to the settlement limiting recovery to full grant-in-aid players as part of the "settlement football and men's basketball class." That class covers Power Five basketball and football players who competed from 2016 to 2024. Kasemervisz was a preferred walk-on, meaning he didn't have to try out for the team. However, Kasemervisz notes, he "did not receive the same financial benefits" as a grant-in-aid player.

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To remedy this defect, Kasemervisz proposes the class definition be expanded to include Power 5 athletes who "actively participated" and thus contributed to the broadcast revenue.

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Reathaford, whose objection was raised through a brief authored by an attorney (Laura Reathaford, a litigation partner at Lathrop GPM in Los Angeles), objects to the injunctive relief component of the settlement and specifically its roster limits. The settlement contemplates roster caps that will lead to fewer slots for D-1 athletes, with some sports impacted more than others.

Reathaford argues that "thousands" of D-1 athletes will "be irreparably harmed because their schools will be forced to cut them from their current teams." The harm would be "irreparable" because being displaced from a team is not a legal injury that money damages can cure; the athlete will lose the chance to play a D-1 sport, develop as a student-athlete and potentially land NIL deals. An athlete denied a slot could lose a scholarship opportunity which is exacerbated by the fact that college is a finite period of one's life and the chance to play college sports is finite too.

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The football team is as important to the health of a University as its engineering school or law school.
This is why the head football coach is typically the highest paid public employee in the state.

This is especially true in the SEC. The success of the football team means a little bit more in the South than it does in other places. Its very important for a school to have a good football team.

Bill Superman said:

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And the NCAA makes a settlement and allows schools to pay directly. This is officially the minor leagues. There is a $20 mil cap though, so who's going to be shoring up the money year in year out. This might only bring back the bagmen once the cap space hits too soon. It's almost just like it used to be…

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No need for bagmen. The 20 mm cap is direct pay. NIL is not impacted.

Gonna be fun to watch Stanford start sending rejection letters to these guys just like they do to thousands of other applicants.

Kellso said:

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The football team is as important to the health of a University as its engineering school or law school.
This is why the head football coach is typically the highest paid public employee in the state.

This is especially true in the SEC. The success of the football team means a little bit more in the South than it does in other places. Its very important for a school to have a good football team.

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Someone said that the football team is the "front porch to the university"

AgfromHOU said:

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Kellso said:

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The football team is as important to the health of a University as its engineering school or law school.
This is why the head football coach is typically the highest paid public employee in the state.

This is especially true in the SEC. The success of the football team means a little bit more in the South than it does in other places. Its very important for a school to have a good football team.

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Someone said that the football team is the "front porch to the university"

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Athletics in general.

Coaches get paid more via private donations than public funding so the comparison is oranges to tangelos.

More objections filed:

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The injunction remedy is a price fix and harms athletes who will play at many Division I schools in the future. For example, if the injunctive relief were approved, a football powerhouse like Alabama might spend $15 million on football, $3.5 million on men's basketball, $1 million on women's basketball, and $500,000 on all their athletes in eleven other varsity sports. Alabama will then be prohibited by the injunction from spending a penny more on compensation to any athlete, whether football, basketball, or exceptional athletes in minor sports, who might similarly be snubbed by dozens of schools choosing who are capped out by other priorities, although they would pay these athletes well but for the cap

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Athletes will be compensated by the schools, but their compensation and/or choice of schools will be diminished and hampered by the cap. The Court should not be a party to this illegal price fix and limitation on competition.

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News: Veteran attorney Len Simon filed an amicus brief alleging price fixing in the injunctive relief portion of House. Simon is a 50-year veteran of sports law, civil litigation and Title IX cases. He taught at Duke among other prestigious law schools.

A. The Injunctive…

— Dennis Dodd (@dennisdoddcbs) January 28, 2025

That's a piquant objection from the players' perspective. Direct pay from the school with no cap - on top of NIL.

I don't know what piquant means, but if its good, I'm that

Bill Superman said:

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$20mil seems like a good enough number for now and will level the playing field to a degree.

It should make these NIL numbers more reasonable too. Wonder if sip can still pay Ewers and them eleventy billion or whatever they claimed.

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I bet you are