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They're in court today on this. Opening statements were today.

Fubo is suing them and trying to get a preliminary injunction preventing them from launching in time for football season.

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Why should a streamer prevent them from doing this?

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20ag07 said:

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They're in court today on this. Opening statements were today.

Fubo is suing them and trying to get a preliminary injunction preventing them from launching in time for football season.

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Why should a streamer prevent hy from doing this?

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It has to do with the prices they are charging Fubo for the same(and other) networks. I think Fubo's biggest beef is with Warner Bros/Discovery.

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I think Fubo's biggest beef is with Warner Bros/Discovery.

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WBD is bringing the least to the table here. TNT's biggest centerpiece is the NBA, which they are losing to Amazon after this year. After that, it's pretty much just March Madness and MLB for them.

Gold latte.

Fubo wants to create a similar package but Disney and Fox won't sign a contract that doesn't require them to bundle non-sports channels. I think this would hold up if Disney and Fox would enable other companies to also sell a similar bundle of sports only channels.

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I think Fubo's biggest beef is with Warner Bros/Discovery.

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WBD is bringing the least to the table here. TNT's biggest centerpiece is the NBA, which they are losing to Amazon after this year. After that, it's pretty much just March Madness and MLB for them.

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Fubo lost Turner over pricing, and recently lost the Discovery channels also, and have complained about the pricing they were being asked to pay. However, they are also stuck with taking non sports channels to get the sports channels from all 3. So this JV undercuts their strategy.

https://cordcuttersnews.com/fubo-could-lose-30-of-its-subscribers-if-venu-sports-is-allowed-to-launch-ceo-says/

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20ag07 said:

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I think Fubo's biggest beef is with Warner Bros/Discovery.

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WBD is bringing the least to the table here. TNT's biggest centerpiece is the NBA, which they are losing to Amazon after this year. After that, it's pretty much just March Madness and MLB for them.

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Fubo lost Turner over pricing, and recently lost the Discovery channels also, and have complained about the pricing they were being asked to pay. However, they are also stuck with taking non sports channels to get the sports channels from all 3. So this JV undercuts their strategy.

https://cordcuttersnews.com/fubo-could-lose-30-of-its-subscribers-if-venu-sports-is-allowed-to-launch-ceo-says/

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The streamers all get moments. Only Netflix and Disney are claiming profits on streaming…though I suspect ESPN is net positive in the streaming side but still losing income in the cable/sat/streaming aggregators side. The costs aren't greater for distributing the content they already did or they are mitigated by individual schools producing the + content for SECN+ and ACCN+. They're still looking for marketplace leverage on ESPN+ but their ad quality is improving. Thought the repetitiveness is daunting…

ESPN+ is driving Disney streaming to reach profitability. Disney+/Hulu are still in the red (though not hugely). That surprised me, because I don't have much use for ESPN+ most of the time.

The ESPN piece going through cable/streamers is still very profitable- just not as huge of a cash cow as it once was.

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BREAKING: The new Disney, Fox Sports, and Warner Bros. Discovery sports streaming service (Venu Sports) will cost $42.99/month. pic.twitter.com/JSb6CPvaTO

— Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) August 1, 2024

Not a bad price.

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This is the introductory price. Once the anti-trust hurdles have been cleared and this combined company is in operation, they will ratchet up the prices every year counting on your desire to keep the ABC, Disney, ESPN, Fox bundle...which others will not be able to replicate individually.

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Won't stay anywhere close to that price for long, but it's a much lower starting point than I expected. Thought it would be $50+. At $42.99 I'll definitely be doing Venu for football season this year (have done YTTV or Hulu in previous years). Will re-evaluate in future years depending on where they move the price to.

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Yeah, this will probably be $100 a month within 3 years. But for this year, I will definitely use it. It will actually be cheaper than Sling with the sports package at $42.99.

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It's interesting that some media companies aren't included: CBS/Paramount+ and NBC/Peacock, specifically.

Sling does now have the 4 month prepay option which includes both Blue and Orange packages, and I'm guessing the Sports Extra package for under $50/month.


The problem for me is the local Fox isn't included and the antennae for us doesn't get us Fox. We get Peacock free and Paramount+ frequently has "free month' promotions. Now that they are sold, that might disappear.

Not sure what we'll do, but I like NFL RedZone enough to do that sport package.

Are you in Mediacom territory? I loathe them…

No, but where my mom lives now is in the heart of Mediacom.

NEWS: Venu—the new sports TV bundle from Disney, Fox, and Warner Bros. Discovery—will launch in August, sooner than expected.

The target launch approaches even as a federal judge plans to make a decision regarding Fubo's injunction.

Story from @KaplanSportsBiz ⬇️

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) August 10, 2024

It gets the Big* Ten and SEC primary carriers side by side. Allows them to guide the emergence of the expanded CFP better…

Scheduled to Launch August 23rd unless blocked by the courts.

https://cordcuttersnews.com/the-new-live-tv-streaming-service-venu-sports-will-reportedly-launch-on-august-23-2024/

DirecTV Stream expires on 8/26, and I've been planning on going to Hulu + Live TV, I would sign up for this if it offered locals.

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DirecTV Stream expires on 8/26, and I've been planning on going to Hulu + Live TV, I would sign up for this if it offered locals.

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It does include FOX and ABC locals, so you could just add Paramount plus and Peacock.

Judge temporarily blocks venu on anti trust concerns per CNBC.

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Judge temporarily blocks venu on anti trust concerns per CNBC.

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The story

Judge blocks Venu, rejects demand for Fubo to post $100 million bond; Disney weighing its options; my story for ⁦@FOS⁩ https://t.co/mCP9teEad0

— Daniel Kaplan (@KaplanSportsBiz) August 16, 2024

I have cable solely for sports. If they get this going, goodbye xfinity.

https://abc7amarillo.com/news/entertainment/disneys-hulu-live-tv-combining-with-sports-streamer-fubo-venu-sports-lawsuit-settlement-streaming-cable-cutting-espn-fox-warner-bros-discovery#

An update to this topic, it looks like Disney / Hulu+ Live TV are combining with FUBO instead of doing the VENU sports service.

I'm betting on a special tu channel !

Lawsuit ends in merger

Fubo's deal with Disney to end the Venu litigation also ends its lawsuit against the industry's channel bundling, ending for now the most serious challenge to the decades old practice. My story for @awfulannouncing https://t.co/EzCXyk5Lwf

— Daniel Kaplan (@KaplanSportsBiz) January 6, 2025