we are largely misunderstanding the criticism of our NIL.

It's to make us give pause and be extra careful on NIL offers.


Notice zero is said about 50 large guaranteed to linemen by the Austin school.

Gyles Marrett said:

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infinity ag said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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infinity ag said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Texas A&M defensive lineman Walter Nolen told me last night that he was “leaning” towards entering the portal.

He is still not in there and with Texas A&M hiring Sean Spencer, I think there will at least be a conversation there to try to keep him.

— Tom VanHaaren (@TomVH) December 4, 2023

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"leaning"... blah.

This is drama queen behavior. Just go to the Portal or do not go. Why all this drama? This seems to be the case with this social media generation where every effin thought they get in their brains need to be broadcast.

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While I agree with you, it is unfortunately the new reality and won't be changing. So we need to figure out how to deal with it rather than just a 'fk you' mandate then. That won't be productive.

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Yes, I agree with you. We definitely need to figure out a way to work with this situation.

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I think the biggest issue is not that players can demand more money, it's that this is entirely a much more one sided on the side of players situation compared to professional sports. Sure an NFL player can demand a new contract, more money, etc. and sit out if he wants but he's under contract and can't just leave and go pick a new team who want's to pay him until he's a free agent. We don't have that in college athletics. Every year they can make new demands. The only restriction is that once they do transfer they can't again until they graduate. But they can make the realistic threat every offseason until they do decide to transfer.

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You make some really great points here. I hadn't thought of those.
The NCAA itself is responsible for this. They got woke/liberal and greedy and ended up eroding their own influence and power. Now it will be hard to put the genie in the bottle again.

AgBQ-00 said:

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pay for performance is about the only thing that is not allowed

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Serious question because I'm not aware....even if that money is coming from a 3rd party "not affiliated" with the school?

Seems like it would be pretty justifiable, your investing in their Name/Image. The bigger and better they play the better your return is with their notoriety increaseing.

Yeah...completely disallowed

To quote Deion Sanders,

"Ma, I'm negotiatin'...!"

infinity ag said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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infinity ag said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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infinity ag said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Texas A&M defensive lineman Walter Nolen told me last night that he was “leaning” towards entering the portal.

He is still not in there and with Texas A&M hiring Sean Spencer, I think there will at least be a conversation there to try to keep him.

— Tom VanHaaren (@TomVH) December 4, 2023

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"leaning"... blah.

This is drama queen behavior. Just go to the Portal or do not go. Why all this drama? This seems to be the case with this social media generation where every effin thought they get in their brains need to be broadcast.

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While I agree with you, it is unfortunately the new reality and won't be changing. So we need to figure out how to deal with it rather than just a 'fk you' mandate then. That won't be productive.

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Yes, I agree with you. We definitely need to figure out a way to work with this situation.

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I think the biggest issue is not that players can demand more money, it's that this is entirely a much more one sided on the side of players situation compared to professional sports. Sure an NFL player can demand a new contract, more money, etc. and sit out if he wants but he's under contract and can't just leave and go pick a new team who want's to pay him until he's a free agent. We don't have that in college athletics. Every year they can make new demands. The only restriction is that once they do transfer they can't again until they graduate. But they can make the realistic threat every offseason until they do decide to transfer.

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You make some really great points here. I hadn't thought of those.
The NCAA itself is responsible for this. They got woke/liberal and greedy and ended up eroding their own influence and power. Now it will be hard to put the genie in the bottle again.

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Classic case of rolling out policy/procedure and not performing a vetting of unintended consequences and opportunistic leveraging. No process is perfect on first pass but it appears some pretty obvious and easy safe guards were left out that should have been thought of.

StinkyPinky said:

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infinity ag said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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infinity ag said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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infinity ag said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Texas A&M defensive lineman Walter Nolen told me last night that he was “leaning” towards entering the portal.

He is still not in there and with Texas A&M hiring Sean Spencer, I think there will at least be a conversation there to try to keep him.

— Tom VanHaaren (@TomVH) December 4, 2023

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"leaning"... blah.

This is drama queen behavior. Just go to the Portal or do not go. Why all this drama? This seems to be the case with this social media generation where every effin thought they get in their brains need to be broadcast.

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While I agree with you, it is unfortunately the new reality and won't be changing. So we need to figure out how to deal with it rather than just a 'fk you' mandate then. That won't be productive.

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Yes, I agree with you. We definitely need to figure out a way to work with this situation.

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I think the biggest issue is not that players can demand more money, it's that this is entirely a much more one sided on the side of players situation compared to professional sports. Sure an NFL player can demand a new contract, more money, etc. and sit out if he wants but he's under contract and can't just leave and go pick a new team who want's to pay him until he's a free agent. We don't have that in college athletics. Every year they can make new demands. The only restriction is that once they do transfer they can't again until they graduate. But they can make the realistic threat every offseason until they do decide to transfer.

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You make some really great points here. I hadn't thought of those.
The NCAA itself is responsible for this. They got woke/liberal and greedy and ended up eroding their own influence and power. Now it will be hard to put the genie in the bottle again.

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Classic case of rolling out policy/procedure and not performing a vetting of unintended consequences and opportunistic leveraging. No process is perfect on first pass but it appears some pretty obvious and easy safe guards were left out that should have been thought of.

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They probably just went with the most simplistic argument that I have heard many on Texags parrot out as well.

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Players should be allowed to get a share of the revenues that they generated.

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NCAA most likely just used this argument because it sounds very good and fair/liberal but rushed it out without thinking of the sheetshow that might follow.

In addition the NCAA is "supposedly" still trying to protect the amateurism of the athletes within its organizations. So I can see them being very resistant of making rules regarding contracts that would effectively limit the amateur status of its athletes. The moment a collegiate athlete signs a contract to a school for X years and X amount of NIL money the NCAA should cease to exist.

I know that they pretty much are already pro athletes. Collegiate athletes are amateurs in name only at this point.

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In addition the NCAA is "supposedly" still trying to protect the amateurism of the athletes within its organizations. So I can see them being very resistant of making rules regarding contracts that would effectively limit the amateur status of its athletes. The moment a collegiate athlete signs a contract to a school for X years and X amount of NIL money the NCAA should cease to exist.

I know that they pretty much are already pro athletes. Collegiate athletes are amateurs in name only at this point.

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Cat is out of the bag. Too late for half-assed measures. Only way is to admit defeat and roll back completely. No player earning, just free education and some related and tightly regulated perks. Univs breaking the law get the death penalty. And transfer portal only for certain severe situations. Not because "Ho hum, I'm bored".

I'm tracking with you. They either need to roll it back or place some serious boundaries around it. I feel like they will do neither and continue to be on the back foot while the game slowly degrades into something unrecognizable.

Have any of you ever quit a job and moved elsewhere? If so, did you let you current employer know there were changes you sought or did you just leave with no warning? People switch jobs all the time for a myriad of reasons.

College football is big business. It has the same loyalty component the rest of the working world has, very little.. Is Elko simply a greedy person for leaving Duke to come here? Or leave A&M to go to Duke a couple years ago?

What about guys like Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, Bill Gates or Zuckerberg, who all quit their universities to seek fortune and fame, did they ruin the college experience? Did the somehow taint the proud institution of higher learning?

My whole family is Aggies and I wanted to go to Texas A&M since I was old enough think. I love Texas A&M and everything about it. It's the only place I applied and the only place I would have gone; however, if someone had come to me during my sophomore or junior year and said "we'll give you $1-million if you'll transfer to Texas Tech", I would have been there in a heartbeat. Hell, if somebody came to me right now and offered $1-million for me to wear Texas Tech gear for the next 4 years, I would do it.

Some damn good stuff…

DamnGood86 said:

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Have any of you ever quit a job and moved elsewhere? If so, did you let you current employer know there were changes you sought or did you just leave with no warning? People switch jobs all the time for a myriad of reasons.

College football is big business. It has the same loyalty component the rest of the working world has, very little.. Is Elko simply a greedy person for leaving Duke to come here? Or leave A&M to go to Duke a couple years ago?

What about guys like Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, Bill Gates or Zuckerberg, who all quit their universities to seek fortune and fame, did they ruin the college experience? Did the somehow taint the proud institution of higher learning?

My whole family is Aggies and I wanted to go to Texas A&M since I was old enough think. I love Texas A&M and everything about it. It's the only place I applied and the only place I would have gone; however, if someone had come to me during my sophomore or junior year and said "we'll give you $1-million if you'll transfer to Texas Tech", I would have been there in a heartbeat. Hell, if somebody came to me right now and offered $1-million for me to wear Texas Tech gear for the next 4 years, I would do it.

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Yep. It's hard, and I get it, but people have to come to grips with the fact that this is what college football has been all along. Many players fall in love with their schools, but many more are there to play ball. If they can get paid better elsewhere to do it, then that's what they're going to do. Just because they couldn't do that 40 years ago didn't make the sport more pure. It just screwed the athletes

DamnGood86

What about $1-million to wear tu gear?