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Now that it's official… internal list of shortcomings with Jimbo

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jturner181
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3:30p, 11/12/23
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1. NFL grading services stated Jimbo was the worst play caller in power 5 football (on multiple occasions).
2. Competent assistants turned down Jimbo in record numbers (they knew how little Jimbo knew about modern schemes)
3. Jimbo often overstated playing time to favored players (like Max Johnson).
4. Numerous complaints about Jimbo inside athletic department and with student services about Jimbo's handling of players; (verbal degradation).

Sounds like a cultural problem in the locker room with Jimbo.
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TikkaShooter
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3:32p, 11/12/23
The actual list is much shorter:

1) He didn't win enough.
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JohnLA762
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3:32p, 11/12/23
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5. He didn't demand the banning of OP in his contract negotiation.
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3:38p, 11/12/23
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Grit.
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3:39p, 11/12/23
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#3 and 4 will usually be issues with any head coaching tenure given you are dealing with 100 plus players, coaches and staff.
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3:42p, 11/12/23
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Didn't coach em up enough to execute
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3:43p, 11/12/23
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Who is "internal" in this case? Did you sit in on the firing meeting on Thursday?
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jturner181
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In reply to Aggie87 • 3:48p, 11/12/23
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The who isn't shared, but the what can be
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3:53p, 11/12/23
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Important Losses (coulda, woulda, shoulda):

2018 - Clemson, Auburn, Miss State
2019 - Georgia, Auburn
2020 - COVID sham season
2021 - Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU
2022 - ALL losses - especially FING South Carolina

3-16 in P5 games as a underdog

Per this CBS Sports article

OUCH!
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bmks270
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1:07p, 11/15/23
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Number 2 is interesting. Must have been a lot of gossip that got around in coaching circles.
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1:23p, 11/15/23
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Going through 6 QBs in two years because of injuries.
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In reply to jturner181 • 1:30p, 11/15/23
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Did they talk at all about his stubbornness to fire incompetent assistants?
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1:31p, 11/15/23
Dont care, got Jimbo
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1:38p, 11/15/23
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It's quite amazing how fast jturner turns from a loyalist to a pot banger on these boards. That dude will fiercely defend any coach up until the day the coach is fired and then be there to spit on his grave the next day.
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1:40p, 11/15/23
His hat never fit right. Nobody bothered to find a nice hat, either fitted or One Size All......but it always looked like someone stopped at WalMart and got a childs Aggie Hat and then Jimbo put it on and the headset made it more crooked with a velcro strap that was also crooked. Not a good look for a 10 million dollar man on the sidelines.

Additionally, certain um, a certain millennial relative hanging onto Jimbo post game with an Aggie shirt and all kind of diamond encrusted (I think the kids call it DRIP). Running out with the team, hanging out on the sidelines.....just weird. Not a proper entourage member, just a lot of cringe.

(It was tolerable when he was little, but over 18 it was just weird)
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infinity ag
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In reply to jturner181 • 1:41p, 11/15/23
jturner181 said:
1. NFL grading services stated Jimbo was the worst play caller in power 5 football (on multiple occasions).
2. Competent assistants turned down Jimbo in record numbers (they knew how little Jimbo knew about modern schemes)
3. Jimbo often overstated playing time to favored players (like Max Johnson).
4. Numerous complaints about Jimbo inside athletic department and with student services about Jimbo's handling of players; (verbal degradation).

Sounds like a cultural problem in the locker room with Jimbo.

Hmm... how do you know this? Are you Bjork?
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Panama Red
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1:43p, 11/15/23
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Where can we see this NFL list of grading college play callers?
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infinity ag
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In reply to OBJTEX • 1:43p, 11/15/23
OBJTEX said:
Dont care, got Jimbo

Lord. The number of times we said that here like an anthem.
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In reply to infinity ag • 1:45p, 11/15/23
infinity ag said:
OBJTEX said:
Dont care, got Jimbo

Lord. The number of times we said that here like an anthem.


Yep. Embarrassing.
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1:50p, 11/15/23
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Jimbo was 1-5 vs. Mike Leach and Lane Kiffin

two "modern" aggressive coaches -- especially on offense

they crushed Jimbo's conservative style with equal or less talent
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1:51p, 11/15/23
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He looked silly with his messy stack of play calls bursting out of his folder. Too much time trying to navigate that instead of game day CEO coaching.
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In reply to OBJTEX • 1:52p, 11/15/23
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OBJTEX said:
infinity ag said:
OBJTEX said:
Dont care, got Jimbo

Lord. The number of times we said that here like an anthem.


Yep. Embarrassing.


Not really, all the media and everyone else thought it was a homerun, program changing hire.

It didn't turn out, so move on.
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In reply to RGLAG85 • 1:54p, 11/15/23
RGLAG85 said:
OBJTEX said:
infinity ag said:
OBJTEX said:
Dont care, got Jimbo

Lord. The number of times we said that here like an anthem.


Yep. Embarrassing.


Not really, all the media and everyone else thought it was a homerun, program changing hire.

It didn't turn out, so move on.


I agree on original hire. It was sonic boom. In hindsight is what i am referring to.
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1:55p, 11/15/23
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and the NFL draft woes...

-- Jimbo did not have a WR drafted during his tenure

(he will get credit for Ainias in the next draft)

-- Jimbo only had one LB drafted during his tenure

(Buddy Johnson in the 4th round -- former Sumlin recruit)

-- Jimbo did not have any DB's drafted in the 1st thru 4th rounds

(highest was Antonio Johnson as a 5th rounder)
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infinity ag
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2:04p, 11/15/23
I was euphoric when A&M hired Jimbo. But then I started to doubt his ability when this "QB whisperer" was not able to get a good QB. All of his QBs sucked. A real QB coach should be able to take an average QB and turn them into winners. Jimbo could not even attract 5* QB talent until Wiggy came along.
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2:05p, 11/15/23
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He played injured players and shoved them
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All I heard was that the players loved him.

As for #1... I believe that. Jimbo's offense was boring to watch.
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2:07p, 11/15/23
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Number #3 should be Haynes King.
Fisher's inability to see that King was not getting it done, especially against App St., was a major red flag.
That's the game I know Fisher was not going to get it done.
So add...
Hard Headed to the list..
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2:12p, 11/15/23
5. no Special Teams coach

1,2, & 4 not sold on.

3 he did hang on to whoever QB1 was no matter what, except for King.
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2:20p, 11/15/23
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6. He got fatter each year.
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In reply to SARATOGA • 2:32p, 11/15/23
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Great observations. I can't stop laughing now.
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In reply to bmks270 • 2:38p, 11/15/23
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bmks270 said:
Number 2 is interesting. Must have been a lot of gossip that got around in coaching circles.


This is something pulled out of someone's arse. I think you are drawing conclusions based on unreliable evidence.
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rootube
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In reply to TAMU74 • 2:41p, 11/15/23
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TAMU74 said:
Number #3 should be Haynes King.
Fisher's inability to see that King was not getting it done, especially against App St., was a major red flag.
That's the game I know Fisher was not going to get it done.
So add...
Hard Headed to the list..


There was a thread blaming Jimbo for not properly developing King based on an article saying he was now receiving proper coaching at GT. King promptly went out and threw four picks in his last game and all I could think is that looks about right.
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In reply to MaroonStain • 3:17p, 11/15/23
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I wouldn't count 2020 as "important loss".

We went 9-1 (8-1 SEC) and only lost to the national champ
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4:14p, 11/15/23
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I've heard #4 was a real issue, not just with him and players but within some of the other staff.
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