Is all the "if this get fixed" or "if this happened" for things that clearly won't. Such as "if the OLine can improve their blocking we might win out." Y'all. It's halfway through the season. Issues the team is having right now aren't going to get fixed. So rather than living in the "if" world let's live in the real world. Real world - We're probably going to finish 7-5/8-4 and Jimbo is probably still going to be here next year. Maybe we lose Addazio? Real world - We'll be living with the tu shadow looming large next year. Time will tell if tu can hang in the SEC and Sark can coach them to the next level. So far, to his credit, he's showing upward trajectory (unlike Jimbo). Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game. We'll continue to make hyperbolic statements about the end times of Aggie Football or how we're "literally never going to another game" but deep down... we know none of that is true.
Have a great week y'all! BTHO Ole Miss. Thanks and gig 'em!

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Is all the "if this get fixed" or "if this happened" for things that clearly won't. Such as "if the OLine can improve their blocking we might win out." Y'all. It's halfway through the season. Issues the team is having right now aren't going to get fixed. So rather than living in the "if" world let's live in the real world. Real world - We're probably going to finish 7-5/8-4 and Jimbo is probably still going to be here next year. Maybe we lose Addazio? Real world - We'll be living with the tu shadow looming large next year. Time will tell if tu can hang in the SEC and Sark can coach them to the next level. So far, to his credit, he's showing upward trajectory (unlike Jimbo). Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game. We'll continue to make hyperbolic statements about the end times of Aggie Football or how we're "literally never going to another game" but deep down... we know none of that is true.
Have a great week y'all! BTHO Ole Miss. Thanks and gig 'em!

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cool story. would read again.

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Is all the "if this get fixed" or "if this happened" for things that clearly won't. Such as "if the OLine can improve their blocking we might win out." Y'all. It's halfway through the season. Issues the team is having right now aren't going to get fixed. So rather than living in the "if" world let's live in the real world. Real world - We're probably going to finish 7-5/8-4 and Jimbo is probably still going to be here next year. Maybe we lose Addazio? Real world - We'll be living with the tu shadow looming large next year. Time will tell if tu can hang in the SEC and Sark can coach them to the next level. So far, to his credit, he's showing upward trajectory (unlike Jimbo). Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game. We'll continue to make hyperbolic statements about the end times of Aggie Football or how we're "literally never going to another game" but deep down... we know none of that is true.
Have a great week y'all! BTHO Ole Miss. Thanks and gig 'em!

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

He is correct though, A&M is who they are at this point. The o-line is not good and will not drastically improve with 4 games remaining. The defense will have to carry them the rest of the way.

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He is correct though, A&M is who they are at this point. The o-line is not good and will not drastically improve with 4 games remaining. The defense will have to carry them the rest of the way.

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Generally agree, except that last year the OLine actually showed up and played ok vs LSU.
Granted, I'm not expecting it to happen again…but to say it just CANT happen is false

That's a lot of words. Either condense your post or use paragraphs, OP.

With that being said, you're right in that this team is what it is. Even Josh Pate has talked about this: teams do not magically get rid their deficiencies midseason as they are the direct product of their coaching system.

So anyone who still has some belief that this o-line will improve at some point this year are dreaming. And to add to this, anyone who thinks Jimbo will fire Addazio (or any coach in general for that matter) are dreaming.

It's a systematic failure of Jimbo. That's why so many still convinced he should leave even after that amazing South Carolina win at home.

Unfortunately ole miss and lsu are on the road. I wouldn't even think about them getting it done UNLESS they magically do it this weekend. They just aren't coached well enough at this point. I hope like hell I'm wrong.

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Unfortunately ole miss and lsu are on the road. I wouldn't even think about them getting it done UNLESS they magically do it this weekend. They just aren't coached well enough at this point. I hope like hell I'm wrong.

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I do think OLine coaching is certainly a problem.

But getting a group of 5 to play as a unit can take a minute, and the better the opposing DLine, the more they can exploit our continued deficiencies.

But at the same time, execution and players taking ownership/accountability once the lights are on really is a problem.
Using 61 and ball snaps as an example, I don't doubt that he could make 1000 perfect snaps in a row in practice. But if 61 still ****s up several snaps in a game, that's not coaching, that's just 61 ****ing things up himself

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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he's obviously comparing us as middling former swc programs who will never win the league rather than the current quality of the teams.

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Unfortunately ole miss and lsu are on the road. I wouldn't even think about them getting it done UNLESS they magically do it this weekend. They just aren't coached well enough at this point. I hope like hell I'm wrong.

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I do think OLine coaching is certainly a problem.

But getting a group of 5 to play as a unit can take a minute, and the better the opposing DLine, the more they can exploit our continued deficiencies.

But at the same time, execution and players taking ownership/accountability once the lights are on really is a problem.
Using 61 and ball snaps as an example, I don't doubt that he could make 1000 perfect snaps in a row in practice. But if 61 still ****s up several snaps in a game, that's not coaching, that's just 61 ****ing things up himself

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You sound like Jimbo. "Just comes down to execution yall". There are a myriad of factors that go into a team losing a specific game, which seems like your point. But when your head coach has 6 years with a team, the results are the same (or worse) each year, no matter what, at some point you gotta scratch your head. Saban Harbaugh Meyer Spurrier Day name any great football coach. Each of them had to deal with players "not executing" and yet the results are vastly different than here at Aggieland.

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Unfortunately ole miss and lsu are on the road. I wouldn't even think about them getting it done UNLESS they magically do it this weekend. They just aren't coached well enough at this point. I hope like hell I'm wrong.

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I do think OLine coaching is certainly a problem.

But getting a group of 5 to play as a unit can take a minute, and the better the opposing DLine, the more they can exploit our continued deficiencies.

But at the same time, execution and players taking ownership/accountability once the lights are on really is a problem.
Using 61 and ball snaps as an example, I don't doubt that he could make 1000 perfect snaps in a row in practice. But if 61 still ****s up several snaps in a game, that's not coaching, that's just 61 ****ing things up himself

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You sound like Jimbo. "Just comes down to execution yall". There are a myriad of factors that go into a team losing a specific game, which seems like your point. But when your head coach has 6 years with a team, the results are the same (or worse) each year, no matter what, at some point you gotta scratch your head. Saban Harbaugh Meyer Spurrier Day name any great football coach. Each of them had to deal with players "not executing" and yet the results are vastly different than here at Aggieland.

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Post was about OLine.
And yeah, whether you like hearing it or not, there's a point where executing really is on the players.

Staff can't snap the ball to QB1 themselves. Eventually 61 has to pull his head out of his ass.

Doesn't mean there aren't other issues.

Middle of the pack SEC team

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rootube said:

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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he's obviously comparing us as middling former swc programs who will never win the league rather than the current quality of the teams.

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Aaaaah. Got it. We were comparing former SWC members credentials. For most of the SWC A&M was all male and corps membership was compulsory. I'd argue no university in the United States has transformed itself more thoroughly than A&M. We are better off now and likely far into the future regardless of your opinion of Jimbo.

rootube said:

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GigEmReggie said:

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rootube said:

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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he's obviously comparing us as middling former swc programs who will never win the league rather than the current quality of the teams.

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Aaaaah. Got it. We were comparing former SWC members credentials. For most of the SWC A&M was all male and corps membership was compulsory. I'd argue no university in the United States has transformed itself more thoroughly than A&M. We are better off now and likely far into the future regardless of your opinion of Jimbo.

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Actually I think they're saying that as bad as Arky is right now, even they've had SEC success and SEC champ game appearances from way back in the day….whereas we still haven't sniffed one.
Meaning we're like Arky….mostly irrelevant….yet they've at least got some conf title game appearances….whereas we do not

Here's something interesting regarding Arkansas,

They struggled upon entering the SEC, but came into their own with Houston Nutt, and between him and Bobby Petrino compiled a 109-66 record with 3 seasons of 10 or more wins and 3 seasons with 9 wins.

Since we joined the SEC Arkansas has gone 56-79 winning 9 only once in 2021.

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He is correct though, A&M is who they are at this point. The o-line is not good and will not drastically improve with 4 games remaining. The defense will have to carry them the rest of the way.

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the defense that got destroyed by Miami, got roasted in the 2nd half by Alabama's below-average offense, and got ran on for 200+ yards rushing by Tennessee. lol

rootube said:

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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yeah, Arkansas is worse this year, so Arkansas this year is A&M of last year. So, we are Arkansas in their mediocre years rather than their worst years…

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Here's something interesting regarding Arkansas,

They struggled upon entering the SEC, but came into their own with Houston Nutt, and between him and Bobby Petrino compiled a 109-66 record with 3 seasons of 10 or more wins and 3 seasons with 9 wins.

Since we joined the SEC Arkansas has gone 56-79 winning 9 only once in 2021.

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Yeah it's hard to believe now that from 2006-2011 Arkansas won the SEC West and had three top 5-15 finishes. Got up to #3 in the country at one point.

The weird thing is Arkansas is actually recruiting better now with more consistent top 20-25 classes but is doing worse on the field. They used to routinely beat Mississippi State, Ole Miss and the permanent East opponent (South Carolina prior to Missouri) but now it's 50/50 at best and Missouri has owned them.

TxAg76 said:

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rootube said:

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GigEmReggie said:

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rootube said:

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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he's obviously comparing us as middling former swc programs who will never win the league rather than the current quality of the teams.

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Aaaaah. Got it. We were comparing former SWC members credentials. For most of the SWC A&M was all male and corps membership was compulsory. I'd argue no university in the United States has transformed itself more thoroughly than A&M. We are better off now and likely far into the future regardless of your opinion of Jimbo.

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Actually I think they're saying that as bad as Arky is right now, even they've had SEC success and SEC champ game appearances from way back in the day….whereas we still haven't sniffed one.
Meaning we're like Arky….mostly irrelevant….yet they've at least got some conf title game appearances….whereas we do not

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As bad as they are right now??? We have won something like 9 of the last 10 games. It takes a hell of a lot of mental gymnastics to argue they are in a better position than us.

I now this is shocking, but players especially young ones on the OL can get better week to week. The season is a marathon. With "good" coaching, I would expect us to continue to get better week to week especially the OL. I'm just not sure what they are being coached on, so hard to watch sometimes.

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TxAg76 said:

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rootube said:

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GigEmReggie said:

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rootube said:

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Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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We're Arkansas... without the conference title game appearances.

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Arkansas has zero conference wins including a loss to us. Given their remaining schedule it's likely they won't get a single conference win this year. So no, we are not Arkansas. Not by a long shot.

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he's obviously comparing us as middling former swc programs who will never win the league rather than the current quality of the teams.

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Aaaaah. Got it. We were comparing former SWC members credentials. For most of the SWC A&M was all male and corps membership was compulsory. I'd argue no university in the United States has transformed itself more thoroughly than A&M. We are better off now and likely far into the future regardless of your opinion of Jimbo.

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Actually I think they're saying that as bad as Arky is right now, even they've had SEC success and SEC champ game appearances from way back in the day….whereas we still haven't sniffed one.
Meaning we're like Arky….mostly irrelevant….yet they've at least got some conf title game appearances….whereas we do not

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As bad as they are right now??? We have won something like 9 of the last 10 games. It takes a hell of a lot of mental gymnastics to argue they are in a better position than us.

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WTF?
Since we joined SEC, yes they've been bad in the SEC, and worse than us.
But unlike us, they've at least had some conference success, and played in some conference championship games, even though it was a good while ago with the likes of Houston Nutt and our very own Bobby P.

Not changing, I agree. There will be more "failed to execute" post game notes.

Texas A&M said:

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Agsforcovfefe11 said:

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Real world - we will likely continue to be a middling SEC football program for years to come AND we will all still love the school and the game.

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This.
With far more expensive tickets and very expensive chicken wraps.
We are a football joke.

I would love for us to win out, but I am predicting a 7-5 finish. We will probably win our remaining home games against 3-5 (1-4 SEC) Mississippi State, and FCS Abilene Christian and lose our remaining road games at 7-1 (4-1 SEC) Ole Miss and 6-2 (4-1 SEC) LSU. If that happens, we will carry a 10-game road losing streak into next year and go for 2 straight years without a single road win.

Since winning the Big 12 Championship in 1998, we have finished with fewer than 4 losses just twice: 11-2 (6-2 SEC) in 2012 and 9-1 (8-1 SEC). We finished with a 9-3 regular season record 2 other times in 2006 and 2010, and both seasons ended with 17+ point bowl losses. We will likely continue to be a mediocre SEC football team with a great or good season once a decade.

Sometimes things do click "in season". I'm not saying I expect it but it's not unheard of . I do think the OL problems are systemic and it's not a talent problem and probably won't be fixed by this OL coach

I think you could say the defense has improved significantly this year "in season"