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LOL, they've played better teams. They, and A&M, have both gotten blasted by a ranked team though Florida State is ranked higher than Miami and LSU lost knocking on the door on the road while A&M was playing Arkansas.Definitely Not A Cop said:Cheyenne Bodie said:Why would losing to two ranked teams necessarily mean a team should be unranked? Unless, I suppose, one is lazily judging based solely on record.Definitely Not A Cop said:Cheyenne Bodie said:Both of the teams that beat them are ranked higher in that poll than the one that beat the Aggies.Emilio Fantastico said:
Did none of the coaches poll voters stay up late enough to see lsu lose again?
How do you keep a two loss team in the top 25 only five weeks into the season.
Lazy pollsters are lazy.
LSU may continue to lose, but it's lazy to ignore who's beaten them to this point.
Lol.
Lol. Is one bigger than two? A&M will crush LSU, just like last year. The need the best college QB of all time to beat Jimbo.
CornfedHorn said:
This is why we need the 12 team play-off. The polls are pure horse***** Who follows the NFL and pays attention to rankings, as opposed to standings?
Texas is #3 because they beat Bama and need to be highly ranked to justify keeping Bama withing striking distance of the play-off, and because Texas is a shiny, marketable brand. LSU is still ranked for similar reasons.
You folks are just getting ****ed. On the upside, everybody in the West looks beatable, and record beats polls in the end. You get Bama at home, and I hope your team is being reminded daily that Texas beat Bama in their house by outscoring them 21-8 in the 4th, with Bama's last drive being 3 plays for -8 yds, and Texas finishing the game with 8 runs (not counting kneel-downs) consuming the final 7:14.
Big picture: ND is the king of poll bias. They set the record for consecutive bowl losses in the 2000's. They have yet to win a BCS or CFP bowl (0-8), also a record, never getting closer than 14, with an average 21pt margin of beatdown. Why? Because they consistently get ranked too high and end up overmatched in their bowl games.
Cheyenne Bodie said:Both of the teams that beat them are ranked higher in that poll than the one that beat the Aggies.Emilio Fantastico said:
Did none of the coaches poll voters stay up late enough to see lsu lose again?
How do you keep a two loss team in the top 25 only five weeks into the season.
Lazy pollsters are lazy.
LSU may continue to lose, but it's lazy to ignore who's beaten them to this point.
This week's If Preseason Projections Were Removed from SP+ rankings:
— Bill Connelly (@ESPN_BillC) October 1, 2023
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 Miami
4 Oregon
5 Texas
6 Texas A&M??
7 Ohio St
8 Oklahoma
9 Wazzu!
10 Notre Dame
11 UGA
12 Bama
13 USC
14 Penn St
15 UCLA
16 Ore St
17 Duke
18 K-State
19 UK
20 Maryland
Cheyenne Bodie said:LOL, they've played better teams. They, and A&M, have both gotten blasted by a ranked team though Florida State is ranked higher than Miami and LSU lost knocking on the door on the road while A&M was playing Arkansas.Definitely Not A Cop said:Cheyenne Bodie said:Why would losing to two ranked teams necessarily mean a team should be unranked? Unless, I suppose, one is lazily judging based solely on record.Definitely Not A Cop said:Cheyenne Bodie said:Both of the teams that beat them are ranked higher in that poll than the one that beat the Aggies.Emilio Fantastico said:
Did none of the coaches poll voters stay up late enough to see lsu lose again?
How do you keep a two loss team in the top 25 only five weeks into the season.
Lazy pollsters are lazy.
LSU may continue to lose, but it's lazy to ignore who's beaten them to this point.
Lol.
Lol. Is one bigger than two? A&M will crush LSU, just like last year. The need the best college QB of all time to beat Jimbo.
But, yeah, thanks for verifying you take the lazy path of looking solely at records.
Cheyenne Bodie said:Both of the teams that beat them are ranked higher in that poll than the one that beat the Aggies.Emilio Fantastico said:
Did none of the coaches poll voters stay up late enough to see lsu lose again?
How do you keep a two loss team in the top 25 only five weeks into the season.
Lazy pollsters are lazy.
LSU may continue to lose, but it's lazy to ignore who's beaten them to this point.
Joes said:
Man, from the outside looking in this forum reads like a roundtable support group of long-term traumatized abuse victims. The polls are biased against you, the refs are biased against you, the announcers are biased against you, ESPN is biased against you... the football gods in general are biased against you. Hang in there.
Joes said:
Man, from the outside looking in this forum reads like a roundtable support group of long-term traumatized abuse victims. The polls are biased against you, the refs are biased against you, the announcers are biased against you, ESPN is biased against you... the football gods in general are biased against you. Hang in there.
Maybe, but it's a factual statement, not a putdown, that A&M has exceeded 9 wins exactly once in 25 years.Maroon Dawn said:Joes said:
Man, from the outside looking in this forum reads like a roundtable support group of long-term traumatized abuse victims. The polls are biased against you, the refs are biased against you, the announcers are biased against you, ESPN is biased against you... the football gods in general are biased against you. Hang in there.
It's no secret the powers that be behind CFB do not want A&M to succeed.
They exist to protect media darlings like Notre Dame by creating a system where your name is more important than your accomplishments.
If that wasn't true then there would be no polls at all until the 6th week and the playoff would be determined by a computer formula whose algorithm was public to all
Instead bias starts before a down is played and a group of humans gets to say "Gee Notre Dame just got their ass kicked by Clemson yesterday but let's put them in the playoff over A&M anyway"
TAMUallen said:
Win against Alabama and they'll put us at 22 ha
TAMUallen said:
Win against Alabama and they'll put us at 22 ha
wangus12 said:Georgia, Michigan, Notre Dame, tu.Tergdor said:
I think this is going to be a year where the Playoff rankings are going to be significantly different from the AP and Coaches polls. The current polls don't make a lick of sense.
Its already over
hsjnlssmith89 said:CornfedHorn said:
This is why we need the 12 team play-off. The polls are pure horse***** Who follows the NFL and pays attention to rankings, as opposed to standings?
Texas is #3 because they beat Bama and need to be highly ranked to justify keeping Bama withing striking distance of the play-off, and because Texas is a shiny, marketable brand. LSU is still ranked for similar reasons.
You folks are just getting ****ed. On the upside, everybody in the West looks beatable, and record beats polls in the end. You get Bama at home, and I hope your team is being reminded daily that Texas beat Bama in their house by outscoring them 21-8 in the 4th, with Bama's last drive being 3 plays for -8 yds, and Texas finishing the game with 8 runs (not counting kneel-downs) consuming the final 7:14.
Big picture: ND is the king of poll bias. They set the record for consecutive bowl losses in the 2000's. They have yet to win a BCS or CFP bowl (0-8), also a record, never getting closer than 14, with an average 21pt margin of beatdown. Why? Because they consistently get ranked too high and end up overmatched in their bowl games.
What you say about ND is alot of what happens with tu each year. Name recognition and money keep your name in the mix for every season. ESPN creams itself everytime tu starts the season off with wins and puts tu in the headlines as much as possible. Usually undeservedly. A few more games will tell the truth about where you are this season but shooting up to #3 the way the sips did just drips of entitlement bias. Boy I wish you guys had gone west with your boomer buddies.
TCU and Cincinnati have made the CFP. I'm confident A&M is far more highly regarded as a program than either. Just win and remember that it goes to 12 teams in 2024. Also, ND can't get a bye unless they join a conference, so no cutting the line for them.Joes said:Maybe, but it's a factual statement, not a putdown, that A&M has exceeded 9 wins exactly once in 25 years.Maroon Dawn said:Joes said:
Man, from the outside looking in this forum reads like a roundtable support group of long-term traumatized abuse victims. The polls are biased against you, the refs are biased against you, the announcers are biased against you, ESPN is biased against you... the football gods in general are biased against you. Hang in there.
It's no secret the powers that be behind CFB do not want A&M to succeed.
They exist to protect media darlings like Notre Dame by creating a system where your name is more important than your accomplishments.
If that wasn't true then there would be no polls at all until the 6th week and the playoff would be determined by a computer formula whose algorithm was public to all
Instead bias starts before a down is played and a group of humans gets to say "Gee Notre Dame just got their ass kicked by Clemson yesterday but let's put them in the playoff over A&M anyway"
You can argue that each season should be viewed in a vacuum but I don't think you can realistically remove that history from voters' minds when it comes to expectations. Humans use overall perception. I'm confident that if A&M wins the SEC then the poll will appropriately reflect that accomplishment.