We obviously all know that Jimbo has underperformed and isn't living up standards. But, to see some A&M fans say they prefer Sark over Jimbo after this past weekend is...well, pretty short sighted and idiotic.

Aside from the weird personality traits (queue Sark gif yelling at Alamo bowl security for touching him..). Actual stats show Sark to be even more mediocre than Jimbo through two years and two games in Austin.

During that same timespan the numbers are:

Sark
Record: 15-12
Top 10 Wins: 1
Bowl Wins: 0
5-7 Seasons: 1

Jimbo
Record: 18-10
Top 10 Wins: 1
Bowl Wins: 2
5-7 Seasons: 0

Again, I understand being unhappy with how things are going, but to say Sark is a better option than Jimbo, is simply put: stupid. Sure, he just beat Alabama on the road, but I have this Bama team losing at least two more this year. Not the Bama we are used to. Texas' easy schedule (mostly in the state of Texas) this year will help them look the part, but I also think/hope they will drop a couple that no one expects. Sark has never lost less than 4 games in a season as a head coach.

Again, odd behavior:

could not agree more. the love fest with a coach who has never won 10 games in a season is very short sighted. sark had a nice win. that's it until proven otherwise

I don't think Alabama has lost 3 games since like 2010. Think about that. That is crazy.

And yet, I expect that to be the case this year even with the rest of the SEC West being down. Bama is just not what Bama has been.

But I care more about my team and my team simply can't find a way to get it done. Talent should translate into a contender and yet most of us believe if we got to 8-4 it would be a miracle. That just isn't good enough. A good coach and staff would have this talent competing for championships.

The good with Jimbo is he has brought in talent. He is just being out coached.

Pretty obvious to see one program is trending in a positive direction, while the other is not.

Sark has been a 500 head coach. No idea if this will pan out or not. Too early to tell.

Bamas QB is the worst I've ever seen under Saban. They will likely lose at least two more with him at the position.

Texas has an extremely easy road to the playoffs. But they could get there and get their A handed to them.

While I have not made the "request for a switch", I think it's important to note context with respect to these 2.
With that said, one can't deny that Sark is on a completely different trajectory at year 3 than Dumbo was in year 3…..

Just sayin'…..

Come Out Roll said:

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While I have not made the "request for a switch", I think it's important to note context with respect to these 2.
With that said, one can't deny that Sark is on a completely different trajectory at year 3 than Dumbo was in year 3…..

Just sayin'…..

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you do realize that in jimbos third year we finished 9-1 and the number four ranked team in the nation.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Come Out Roll said:

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While I have not made the "request for a switch", I think it's important to note context with respect to these 2.
With that said, one can't deny that Sark is on a completely different trajectory at year 3 than Dumbo was in year 3…..

Just sayin'…..

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you do realize that in jimbos third year we finished 9-1 and the number four ranked team in the nation.

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THIS. People don't think before they type.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Come Out Roll said:

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While I have not made the "request for a switch", I think it's important to note context with respect to these 2.
With that said, one can't deny that Sark is on a completely different trajectory at year 3 than Dumbo was in year 3…..

Just sayin'…..

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you do realize that in jimbos third year we finished 9-1 and the number four ranked team in the nation.

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No he doesn't

HTH

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Jimbo
Record: 18-10
Top 10 Wins: 1
Bowl Wins: 2
5-7 Seasons: 0

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I believe he's referencing Jimbo's stats vs Sark's stats as of now. Just a little over 2 seasons worth.

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Pretty obvious to see one program is trending in a positive direction, while the other is not.

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As weird as 2020 was, I'm pretty sure after Jimbo's 3rd season most thought we were trending in a positive direction.

This was Sark's and sip's Super Bowl. You could see that in Sark's body language on the sideline the whole game as he squatted down freaking that they even had a chance at the worst Bama team in the Saban era, and with the postgame antics tearing up in Saban's ear after the game while a disinterested Saban was hardly impressed they had finally won a semi-meaningful game.

I'm glad sip won that game so that they can extend sark this off-season and bury themselves in a bad contract like…. us.

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Jimbo
Record: 18-10
Top 10 Wins: 1
Bowl Wins: 2
5-7 Seasons: 0

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Reading is hard.

Dude I read it. I just don't think it's a good argument. Jimbo did better than Sark in his first 2+years, but your using a data point that's more condemning of Jimbo because he had a 5-7 season in year 5, not year 1.

It's not all about absolutes. It's also about trends.

Which one is 1-7 in recent P5 games?

Which one has 7 road losses in a row?

Which one has an improved record each season?

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I believe he's referencing Jimbo's stats vs Sark's stats as of now. Just a little over 2 seasons worth.

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I know. My gif response was more finding it silly to say "well at least jimbo didn't have a 5-7 season in years 1-2 when Sark did". Is that really something positive? We can't compare this in a vacuum. They just went 5-7 in year 5.

You have bama losing AT LEAST two more... meaning possible more? That's an incredibly BOLD prediction here since they haven't lost more than 2 since 2010.

Who do you have bama AT LEAST losing to? Ole MIss? Who has beat them 1 time in 20 years? Tennesee who beat them for the first time last year since 2006 (and really struggled against Austin Peay)? Yea, I guess you're predicting LSU will beat them in Tuscaloosa?

So who is that much better than bama that you're predicting victories over them?

How are each coaching trending?

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You have bama losing AT LEAST two more... meaning possible more? That's an incredibly BOLD prediction here since they haven't lost more than 2 since 2010.

Who do you have bama AT LEAST losing to? Ole MIss? Who has beat them 1 time in 20 years? Tennesee who beat them for the first time last year since 2006 (and really struggled against Austin Peay)? Yea, I guess you're predicting LSU will beat them in Tuscaloosa?

So who is that much better than bama that you're predicting victories over them?

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With Jalen Milroe at QB (and other question marks), this is not the typical Alabama of the Nick Saban era. We saw that against the longhorns.

It is early in the year so I think any of those could be plausible. I had them losing to A&M at Kyle. I don't think that is far fetched considering how our 5-7 team did last year in Tuscaloosa. And dropping one other SEC game. Originally I thought it would be Miss St on the road since the Bulldogs have a very mature team (a lot of upper classmen) and are playing together for Leach, but they haven't been too impressive to start.

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Pretty obvious to see one program is trending in a positive direction, while the other is not.

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tu will lose 3 to 4 games in the big 12 this year.

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How are each coaching trending?

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After two games in a season? Remains to be seen. What if Miami wins 10+ games and Alabama loses 3? Sure Texas has momentum currently, but that can easily change with a majority of the regular season to play.

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How are each coaching trending?

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After two games in a season? Remains to be seen. What if Miami wins 10+ games and Alabama loses 3? Sure Texas has momentum currently, but that can easily change with a majority of the regular season to play.

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A&M is 1-7 in the last 8 P5 games. How Miami and Alabama do after this week doesn't affect that.

The only reason I see to make this comparison is really to reflect on the fact that Sark is the kind of shot in the dark, mediocre track record coach its possible to get stuck with when you fire your coach and think that you're gonna be hiring "the best in the business" as much as to say that Jimbo Fisher (or worse Dennis Franchione) is also what you can get stuck with by having everything go right and paying the premium. At any given point in this sport, a very tiny handful of coaches are so good and such a great fit for their programs that they make everyone else cycle through a roulette wheel of decent to crap trying to replicate it.

It is 2023

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You have bama losing AT LEAST two more... meaning possible more? That's an incredibly BOLD prediction here since they haven't lost more than 2 since 2010.

Who do you have bama AT LEAST losing to? Ole MIss? Who has beat them 1 time in 20 years? Tennesee who beat them for the first time last year since 2006 (and really struggled against Austin Peay)? Yea, I guess you're predicting LSU will beat them in Tuscaloosa?

So who is that much better than bama that you're predicting victories over them?

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With Jalen Milroe at QB (and other question marks), this is not the typical Alabama of the Nick Saban era. We saw that against the longhorns.

It is early in the year so I think any of those could be plausible. I had them losing to A&M at Kyle. I don't think that is far fetched considering how our 5-7 team did last year in Tuscaloosa. And dropping one other SEC game. Originally I thought it would be Miss St on the road since the Bulldogs have a very mature team (a lot of upper classmen) and are playing together for Leach, but they haven't been too impressive to start.

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The last time Saban lost more than two games in a season was 2010. Since then he's played in eight national championship games and won five. It's possible that all the sudden Alabama is on the way down. Probable? No. Is Texas automatically a top five team because they beat Bama. Of course not.

Texas was living in bama's backfield all night. They might be good

His QB is atrocious. He could easily lose two or more.

Also, all coaches lose it at some point. Could be his time.

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Pretty obvious to see one program is trending in a positive direction, while the other is not.

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tu will lose 3 to 4 games in the big 12 this year.

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And if they don't, what's your takeaway? That the Big 12 is worse than you think or that Texas is better than you think? They get their toughest games, on paper, at home or a neutral site, unless you think TCU is just having bad luck so far.

Either way, we'll find out whether Texas is improved or not in 2024 at the latest.

In the meantime, the Aggies need to start winning against P5 teams, in general, and on the road, in particular.

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His QB is atrocious. He could easily lose two or more.

Also, all coaches lose it at some point. Could be his time.

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His QB is supremely talented and just made his third start. He's not gonna be Bryce Young or Jalen Hurts immediately, but he will be soon. Go back and look at some of the QBs Saban has won championships with.
AJ McCarron. Greg McElroy. Jake Coker? Who the hell is Jake Coker?

Also, A&M beat Alabama in 2012 and 2021. The Tide finished 1st and 2nd in the nation those two years. Did y'all think they were down then?

I support moving on from Jimbo. But I am very glad Sark is not our coach.

What other question marks does Bama have? Is this just sunshine pumping or are you critically analyzing their team vs ours. How do we match up against them from waht you've seen so far?

We need a DC and things will start to line up.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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could not agree more. the love fest with a coach who has never won 10 games in a season is very short sighted. sark had a nice win. that's it until proven otherwise

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Not even a very nice win when you consider how bad Milroe is. Even our 5-7 team & 3rd best QB nearly beat him last year and that was a better Bama team than this squad. Sips just lucky to have such an easy schedule now. Who knows if they'll even have to play the opposing teams' best QB at Baylor (injury) or at Iowa State (suspension for sports betting).

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What other question marks does Bama have? Is this just sunshine pumping or are you critically analyzing their team vs ours. How do we match up against them from waht you've seen so far?

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this is remnants of the same Bama team that could've lost 5 games last year. Apparently their OL and DBs were very bad against Sips, according to Bama fans.