Just dropped today!

So now it's Told?

can't wait... going to get my money phone, giant inflatable swan and champagne and watch tonight.

Please don't paint Texas A&M in a bad light

Wearing my Scooby costume to watch alone in my basement. No blonde.

Might've been able to get a 3rd year out of him if NIL was around back then.

barstoolexpert said:

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Please don't paint Texas A&M in a bad light

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Looks pretty tame on A&M...

"Johnny Football covers Manziel's entire football career, from his prep years at Tivy High School (complete with footage from some absurd performances) through his brief NFL career. The Texas A&M years contain the best content of the film, including plenty of good interview clips from Kliff Kingsbury, Manziel's offensive coordinator during his Heisman-winning season with the Aggies. Nate Fitch, one of Manziel's closest friends and confidantes at A&M, also provides plenty of context and explanations for what was going on with Manziel off the field."
https://awfulannouncing.com/netflix/untold-johnny-football-manziel-texas-am-cleveland-browns.html

Just watched it and it was very fair.

AggieJoker90 said:

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Just watched it and it was very fair.

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Same. I thought it was very well done but won't post any spoilers.

Appreciate for not spoiling. I look forward to watching it. Heck of a special talent but you've got him. A lot like some of the top recruits last year that left the program.

Stupid question, but it looks like you can only watch it on Netflix - correct? Which, I don't have an account. I'm sure/hoping it will get bootlegged somewhere.

Only Fans Director said:

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barstoolexpert said:

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Please don't paint Texas A&M in a bad light

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Looks pretty tame on A&M...

"Johnny Football covers Manziel's entire football career, from his prep years at Tivy High School (complete with footage from some absurd performances) through his brief NFL career. The Texas A&M years contain the best content of the film, including plenty of good interview clips from Kliff Kingsbury, Manziel's offensive coordinator during his Heisman-winning season with the Aggies. Nate Fitch, one of Manziel's closest friends and confidantes at A&M, also provides plenty of context and explanations for what was going on with Manziel off the field."
https://awfulannouncing.com/netflix/untold-johnny-football-manziel-texas-am-cleveland-browns.html

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He had quite a reputation in Kerrville………

Manziel had his personal issues but he was a great competitor on the field it permeated through the rest of the team. I wouldn't compare him to someone like Denver Harris. Maybe I'll feel differently if I watch the show.

Or you could pay to watch it in a way that actually has a chance to support Johnny.

Too much Billy Liucci. (Don't ban me. I'm only kidding.)

I found it interesting that Sumlin wasn't interviewed for this. Eric Hyman too. Overall I thought it was pretty good but could have been a lot better.

really good. Butthurt they didnt reach out to me for quotes, we peaked on texags at the same time.

Know Your Enemy said:

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Too much Billy Liucci. (Don't ban me. I'm only kidding.)

I found it interesting that Sumlin wasn't interviewed for this. Eric Hyman too. Overall I thought it was pretty good but could have been a lot better.

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Only so much you can fit into an hour.

Probably should've been 2 hours long and it might have covered everything.

It basically shed light on why NIL is what it is and he was doing it well before. Did not know the reason for why the Texans did not get him until that either.

JFF as our starting QB... Damn, those were good times/games.

I think A&M looks great in it.

Really highlights our facilities and program as a whole because with Kliff Kingsbury being interviewed, it shows issues weren't a Texas A&M problem.

On that note though, the coaching staff and athletic department failed Johnny. Yes, he is responsible for his own actions but cmon guys you can't just let your players run wild because they're always performing no matter how crazy they've been

I thought no one looked worse (outside of johnny) than johnny's dad. Dude literally says it was the coache's job to make Johnny into a decent person.

All that said, dont give a ****, JFF rules its embarrassing we dont have a statute of him yet.

Yeah his dad has long been a question mark. Reading between the lines you get a lot of questions from what kind of parenting was provided.

He should absolutely have a statue already, one of the greatest players in college football history. Dont care about what happened in the NFL (even though I think he had the skills, just went to a bad team and had personal demons)

What did they say about the Heisman night porn blast Sex Panther started?

TAMUallen said:

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I think A&M looks great in it.

Really highlights our facilities and program as a whole because with Kliff Kingsbury being interviewed, it shows issues weren't a Texas A&M problem.

On that note though, the coaching staff and athletic department failed Johnny. Yes, he is responsible for his own actions but cmon guys you can't just let your players run wild because they're always performing no matter how crazy they've been

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You contradict yourself big time. In the end Johnny has to take the most responsibility for what happened to him. But A&M definitely failed him with most of that blame IMO falling on Sumlin, Kliffy, and Hyman.

And I agree that I rolled my eyes when Daddy tried to drop all the blame on the coaches. He definitely has a share to take as well.

PatAg said:

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He should absolutely have a statue already, one of the greatest players in college football history. Dont care about what happened in the NFL (even though I think he had the skills, just went to a bad team and had personal demons)

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Cleveland: The Graveyard for QBs

Know Your Enemy said:

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TAMUallen said:

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I think A&M looks great in it.

Really highlights our facilities and program as a whole because with Kliff Kingsbury being interviewed, it shows issues weren't a Texas A&M problem.

On that note though, the coaching staff and athletic department failed Johnny. Yes, he is responsible for his own actions but cmon guys you can't just let your players run wild because they're always performing no matter how crazy they've been

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You contradict yourself big time. In the end Johnny has to take the most responsibility for what happened to him. But A&M definitely failed him with most of that blame IMO falling on Sumlin, Kliffy, and Hyman.

And I agree that I rolled my eyes when Daddy tried to drop all the blame on the coaches. He definitely has a share to take as well.

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Not at all.

Johnny was a good highschool player and then he gets to Heisman level and everything changes instantly. Him, his family and Kingsbury all note that.

His dad is irresponsible and dishonest in deflecting responsibility but let's be real... does anybody think they are going to have a son be the QB1 who regularly shows up to or miss practice because they're still hammered? Kliff himself was saying that JFF was hungover and sweating profusely before the Mississippi state game. To Kliff he seems to be laughing about it but by allowing that behavior, with zero negative consequences, is terrible leadership from the coaching staff. They knew he was on a bad path but let it happen because he could still somehow perform.

TAMUallen said:

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Kliff himself was saying that JFF was hungover and sweating profusely before the Mississippi state game. To Kliff he seems to be laughing about it

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Pretty damn amazing.

How are the issues not at least partly A&M related? If the coaches aren't doing anything to rein him in as you state Kliff admits laughingly in this documentary then it HAS to be at least partly the school's fault.

Know Your Enemy said:

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How are the issues not at least partly A&M related? If the coaches aren't doing anything to rein him in as you state Kliff admits laughingly in this documentary then it HAS to be at least partly the school's fault.

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The athletic department was to blame as I said. Now it isn't an A&M problem anymore given that those coaches are gone and clearly Jimbo runs a very different program.

Feel like they completely misrepresented how that Florida game went, and how we reacted.
People were HYPED for Johnny's performance in the game, and we almost beat Florida. That was about as great a start to the SEC as we could expect, and better than most of us thought imo
I guess its possible a lot of idiots did the for sale sign thing, but I dunno

In the moment, Florida felt a bit like a continuation of the 2011 season with the struggles in the second half.

TAMUallen said:

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Know Your Enemy said:

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How are the issues not at least partly A&M related? If the coaches aren't doing anything to rein him in as you state Kliff admits laughingly in this documentary then it HAS to be at least partly the school's fault.

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The athletic department was to blame as I said. Now it isn't an A&M problem anymore given that those coaches are gone and clearly Jimbo runs a very different program.

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How can it not be an A&M issue if the AD was to blame? They're part of the school.

Looch....calling us a blue collar school!!

Great documentary. 4th string QB story was kinda funny

Man what a fun run down memory lane…can't believe that was all 10 years ago at this point