I really don't want tceh fans parking outside my house when coming to SLC.
ASU and Utah officially apply to the Big 12, Arizona is already approved
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The Big 12 has officially announced that it will add Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah.
— Front Office Sports (@FOS) August 5, 2023
In just one day, the Pac-12 lost five of its schools.
Lincoln Riley's reaction to the Pac-12 news in his opening statement after practice: "I have no reaction. We're trying to win the Pac-12, and then we'll deal with the Big Ten when that time comes." #RIPPac12 pic.twitter.com/XR4WEg47n5
— Thuc Nhi Nguyen (@thucnhi21) August 5, 2023
Looks like we have college footballs version of musical chairs as programs find a place to light that is better than their current situation. Jump now or get run over!
Texas would have been a perfect for that conference.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:
if i am the big 12 i am adding these teams plus some. why not take cal and stanford as well get to 20 teams and become a super conference that spans from florida to california. why wait and be reactionary, i would be pro active and add a few additional teams.
What benefit would that bring? A couple hundred more viewers to your conference? Adding just to add is idiotic, especially when it's dead weight.
Changes seem to be happening.
No longer "The Conference of Champions" or, perhaps, no longer a conference.TAMU74 said:
So is the Pac 12 no more?
sharpdressedman said:No longer "The Conference of Champions" or, perhaps, no longer a conference.TAMU74 said:
So is the Pac 12 no more?
No, Just rebranding to the PAC-4.
He's going to leave USC high and dry too, Michigan and Ohio St will scare him off.
Yormarck indicated two more possible additions to the Big 12. Wazzu and Oregon State? UConn plus Gonzaga (basketball only)?
He may be the smartest conference commissioner out there right now.
He may be the smartest conference commissioner out there right now.
It is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness- Sir Terence Pratchett
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
No may be about it. He turned a corpse into a living thing.
The additions of Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah will bring the Big 12 to 16 teams. With Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and USC joining the Big 10, the Pac-12 has been destroyed. The remaining Pac-12 teams Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, and Washington State have a few options, but none will be pretty.
1. WSU, OSU and Cal join the Mountain West while Stanford alone goes the Independent route.
2. The quartet sticks together and attempts to reform the Pac-12 through expansion, using a handful of Mountain West schools and perhaps SMU (from the American Conference) as the building blocks.
3. One of many challenges with this strategy is the timing: It's unlikely the Pac-12 could add schools in time for the 2024 season because of logistical issues and exit fees in other conferences.
4. The schools move en masse into the Mountain West, creating a 16-team mega-conference under the leadership of current commissioner Gloria Nevarez.
At that point, the next step would be the media rights piece. The MW's current deal with Fox and CBS runs through 2026 and spins off an average of $4 million annually to each school.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-options-with-pac-12-gone
1. WSU, OSU and Cal join the Mountain West while Stanford alone goes the Independent route.
2. The quartet sticks together and attempts to reform the Pac-12 through expansion, using a handful of Mountain West schools and perhaps SMU (from the American Conference) as the building blocks.
3. One of many challenges with this strategy is the timing: It's unlikely the Pac-12 could add schools in time for the 2024 season because of logistical issues and exit fees in other conferences.
4. The schools move en masse into the Mountain West, creating a 16-team mega-conference under the leadership of current commissioner Gloria Nevarez.
At that point, the next step would be the media rights piece. The MW's current deal with Fox and CBS runs through 2026 and spins off an average of $4 million annually to each school.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-options-with-pac-12-gone
If the merger with the MWC happened could they still call it the PAC and keep the PAC media deal and slot in the playoff
If the pac had hired a competent commissioner when they hired Larry Scott, they would not be in this position. Why they hired him and the clown that's in the position now is a study in stupidity.
Those two guys destroyed a conference whose members didn't want to leave but were forced to.
Those two guys destroyed a conference whose members didn't want to leave but were forced to.
Sq 17 said:
If the merger with the MWC happened could they still call it the PAC and keep the PAC media deal and slot in the playoff
I feel like everyone is forgetting that the autobids are for the "top 6 conference champions". Neither the Pac-12 nor any other conferences have a guaranteed autobids for their conference.
BillYeoman said:
I personally think the Big 10 jumped the shark. They are looking at past brands….not future real eye balls. Which will still reside in SEC/Big 12/ACC country.
The money will dry up based on their bet.
Yeah it's gonna get messy with the west coast schools not getting paid as much as Rutgers and if everyone eventually gets a full share all will go down in $$
So many off-base posts.
1. Cal and Stanford add a LOT and will end up Big 10.
2. Im happy for the B12, but all this talk about them being "clearly" the #3 conf is off base.
3. Anyone who thinks Cal would ever join the B12, well, bless your heart.
1. Cal and Stanford add a LOT and will end up Big 10.
2. Im happy for the B12, but all this talk about them being "clearly" the #3 conf is off base.
3. Anyone who thinks Cal would ever join the B12, well, bless your heart.
Divining Rod said:
So many off-base posts.
1. Cal and Stanford add a LOT and will end up Big 10.
A lot of what? Communism? Hippies? Trees?
Nothing about this has to do with academics and neither of these schools care about football.
you know, i could also argue AGAINST all my
points! ^
points! ^
this is more lipstick on a pig
It's now the Pac 4.TAMU74 said:
So is the Pac 12 no more?
Divining Rod said:
you know, i could also argue AGAINST all my
points! ^
Well they're pretty easy points to argue against, but I suppose I'll give credit for playing devils advocate. Even if you're wrong.
45-70Ag said:
https://pac-4.com/
Holy crap
Well done! They got a new camera…and the schedule is hilarious
ROFL!!!45-70Ag said:
https://pac-4.com/
Holy crap
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SEC should got get Washington State, Cal, Oregon State and Stanford. The road trips would be awesome!
EagleAg said:
SEC should got get Washington State, Cal, Oregon State and Stanford. The road trips would be awesome!
That's dumb enough for simp skankey to try!! Don't give him any ideas!!
How's Walton handling this? As someone in another forum said:
"There can't be enough weed on the entire West Coast to keep his brain numb while the "Conference of Champions" gets sold off like cheap TVs on Black Friday at a Pasadena Walmart."
"There can't be enough weed on the entire West Coast to keep his brain numb while the "Conference of Champions" gets sold off like cheap TVs on Black Friday at a Pasadena Walmart."
Nobody pays for televisions these days in Pasadena or anywhere else in lawless Cali. They just walk into Walmart and take them. Kinda like what the B1G and Big XII just did when they went into the Pac-12 and walked off with eight teams.West Point Aggie said:
How's Walton handling this? As someone in another forum said:
"There can't be enough weed on the entire West Coast to keep his brain numb while the "Conference of Champions" gets sold off like cheap TVs on Black Friday at a Pasadena Walmart."
Charlie 31 said:Nobody pays for televisions these days in Pasadena or anywhere else in lawless Cali. They just walk into Walmart and take them. Kinda like what the B1G and Big XII just did when they went into the Pac-12 and walked off with eight teams.West Point Aggie said:
How's Walton handling this? As someone in another forum said:
"There can't be enough weed on the entire West Coast to keep his brain numb while the "Conference of Champions" gets sold off like cheap TVs on Black Friday at a Pasadena Walmart."
That's a high quality point you make!
What will the BDF ultimately look like ?
Will the sips want back in ?
Will the sips want back in ?
Goodnight, sweet prince. 🫡 pic.twitter.com/YTRdgyBlRO
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West Point Aggie said:45-70Ag said:
https://pac-4.com/
Holy crap
Well done! They got a new camera…and the schedule is hilarious
The Pac-4 needs to just dive right in:
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