That doesn't make any sense. We are enormous. Growth is not a problem. Getting cheerleaders does nothing but water down and homogenize our experience with everyone else. Seriously, this is dumb idea. Caring what others think about us is the weakest most emasculated line of thought going. Grow up and embrace A&M or GTFO.
HWY 6...both ways...etc.

Maybe grow doesn't mean just adding more students. Maybe grow means to expand your horizons, learn to look at things differently, and know how to pull your head out of the sand.

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Because many years ago and all male university tried very hard to differentiate itself from all the rest.

We don't have a fight song, we have a war hymn
We don't have alumni, we have former students
We don't have cheers, we have yells
and we don't have cheerleaders, we have yell leaders.

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We don't have a cult…umm…

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It's a sub culture. One to be proud of.

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Subcultures don't define themselves with weird rituals. Cults do.

I like that we're cultish, it's unique and sets us apart…

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People wanting us to be just like everywhere else is ridiculous. You want to be like everyone else, there are plenty of place to choose from. Go be one of them.

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100% truth. Ignore the trolls.

AgBQ-00 said:

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That doesn't make any sense. We are enormous. Growth is not a problem. Getting cheerleaders does nothing but water down and homogenize our experience with everyone else. Seriously, this is dumb idea. Caring what others think about us is the weakest most emasculated line of thought going. Grow up and embrace A&M or GTFO.
HWY 6...both ways...etc.

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100%. Ignore the trolls.

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AgBQ-00 said:

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People wanting us to grow be just like everywhere else is ridiculous. You want to grow be like everyone else, there are plenty of place to choose from. Go be one of them.

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FIFY

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Weak sauce right there

AgBQ-00 said:

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That doesn't make any sense. We are enormous. Growth is not a problem. Getting cheerleaders does nothing but water down and homogenize our experience with everyone else. Seriously, this is dumb idea. Caring what others think about us is the weakest most emasculated line of thought going. Grow up and embrace A&M or GTFO.
HWY 6...both ways...etc.

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Don't worry about him. He things the Aggie band sucks.

4. Tarleton State won its Division too.

It's downright criminal that not only do we have cheerleaders we don't use, but that they have accomplished more than any of the major men's sports teams in the last…well, I don't know, but a long ass time.

Third generation Aggie.
I want to see A&M FEMALE CHEERLEADERS.
I want other people to see the talent of A&M FEMALE CHEERLEADERS

I do not want to see a group of cadets arm-in-arm squeezing their balls.

Amazing achievement! Congratulations, ladies, you make us very proud.

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Why can't we find a way to incorporate them into the football (and even basketball) game day presentation?

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Because 60 years ago a&m was all male.

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I'm class of 87 and im all for eliminating yell leaders, ODs and the Aggie Band at away games and letting cheerleaders and the hullabaloo take over.

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I'm class of '70 and I'm for leaving it alone, sip!

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I'm class of '87 and '91, very conservative, love all the Aggie traditions, and come from a family of Aggies (by the way, where's your AgTag).

I'm not saying do away with the Yell Leaders. In fact, I believe the current gameday atmosphere has diminished the impact of the Yell Leaders (and Aggie Band) activity and their effect(s) on the games.

This Aggie Cheer Squad, in my humble opinion, would hopefully bring attention to a very attractive (the women are--don't want to even look at the guys), athletic and talented group that would hopefully have a POSITIVE contribution to the University and gameday atmosphere as their routines are very athletic and challenging. I will almost always be in favor of adding POSITIVE contributions to whatever I'm working on, than not in the name of staying traditional. It's not like we would be adding an unproven commodity. They've proven themselves time and time again by winning national championships.

Tell me the NEGATIVE impact(s) of adding the Cheer Squad to the gameday atmosphere would bring. Just saying it's against tradition, isn't one--or should I say is very weak.

I understand tradition, appreciate and respect tradition. There's a lot of sideline to share with the Yell Leaders and could hopefully bring more crowd participation.

Again, note the negative impact(s).

Apparently the cheer squad prefers to focus on competitions and not football and basketball games. Maybe it's a selling point for cheer recruits?

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Apparently the cheer squad prefers to focus on competitions and not football and basketball games. Maybe it's a selling point for cheer recruits?

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Agreed. Today's cheerleading is not about the rah-rah sideline stuff...it's all about the skills competitions. I think both the cheer and dance teams have a place at A&M football, but as a part of the bigger picture. They don't have to replace the yell leaders (but as noted...the role of the yell leaders has greatly diminished in recent years.) Whether the olds like it or not, A&M has changed. And here's the thing...it will continue to change. Quite frankly, if organizations - colleges or otherwise - do not continue to change and evolve, then they're going backwards.

As much as some of you old dudes (I am class of '92) want to dig your heels in and cling to the way things used to be, you're about to get run over by the steamroller of change. You can embrace it, or you can get squashed. Your choice.

Beautiful blonde cheerleaders or bald 20 year old men in overalls… how you all decide the latter is wild to me and is why everyone laughs at our university. The yell leaders embarrass Texas A&M almost weekly during football season.

The stupid gyrations and hopping around is a new thing and is embarrassing

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I'm class of 87 and im all for eliminating yell leaders, ODs and the Aggie Band at away games and letting cheerleaders and the hullabaloo take over.

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Not in my lifetime.

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The band of your and my time is gone, and they don't need to travel to games where they don't March.

Yell leaders and ODs at away games are worthless

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I was ready to wade in and disagree with you but if they don't march what's the point. I can't argue with that. I guess I assumed they marched at all away games. Which I suppose shows how long it's been since I've been to an away game. You are wrong about Yell Leaders.

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It's downright criminal that not only do we have cheerleaders we don't use, but that they have accomplished more than any of the major men's sports teams in the last…well, I don't know, but a long ass time.

Third generation Aggie.
I want to see A&M FEMALE CHEERLEADERS.
I want other people to see the talent of A&M FEMALE CHEERLEADERS

I do not want to see a group of cadets arm-in-arm squeezing their balls.

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They just won a competition so wouldn't that imply that they being "used" to your point. We have a swim team too but that doesn't mean we need a swim lane at Kyle.

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I'm class of 87 and im all for eliminating yell leaders, ODs and the Aggie Band at away games and letting cheerleaders and the hullabaloo take over.

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Not in my lifetime.

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The band of your and my time is gone, and they don't need to travel to games where they don't March.

Yell leaders and ODs at away games are worthless

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I was ready to wade in and disagree with you but if they don't march what's the point. I can't argue with that. I guess I assumed they marched at all away games. Which I suppose shows how long it's been since I've been to an away game. You are wrong about Yell Leaders.

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I always want the band to March, but our SEC opponents don't make time for them to perform at halftime.

OD's need to go as they are Officer of the Day and at onetime responsible for the actions of cadets. Now they are a mascot at away games.

Yell leaders at away games don't provide much value because of the lack of fans. In the SWC we would always have large road crowds because games were played in Ft Worth or Dallas, Houston or Waco, and of course Corps trips 2x a year.

Today we have a much smaller contingent at road games, so that's why my comments about yell leaders being worthless is valid, for road games .

Doesn't every cheerleading squad win a national championship at every competition?

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I'm class of 87 and im all for eliminating yell leaders, ODs and the Aggie Band at away games and letting cheerleaders and the hullabaloo take over.

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Not in my lifetime.

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The band of your and my time is gone, and they don't need to travel to games where they don't March.

Yell leaders and ODs at away games are worthless

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I was ready to wade in and disagree with you but if they don't march what's the point. I can't argue with that. I guess I assumed they marched at all away games. Which I suppose shows how long it's been since I've been to an away game. You are wrong about Yell Leaders.

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I always want the band to March, but our SEC opponents don't make time for them to perform at halftime.

OD's need to go as they are Officer of the Day and at onetime responsible for the actions of cadets. Now they are a mascot at away games.

Yell leaders at away games don't provide much value because of the lack of fans. In the SWC we would always have large road crowds because games were played in Ft Worth or Dallas, Houston or Waco, and of course Corps trips 2x a year.

Today we have a much smaller contingent at road games, so that's why my comments about yell leaders being worthless is valid, for road games .

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You are 100% correct about the band, but I still disagree with not having yell leaders at away games. They lead midnight yell at away games (ant least I assume they still do) and are ambassadors for our university. SEC teams send cheer leaders to away games and despite loud complaining on here they are our equivalent of that.

Not at the NCA College Nationals! There were 26 colleges in their division and a total of 430 colleges at the whole competition in which they earned 1st out of 26 in their division and 2 out of 430. You must be confusing the cheer squad with the dance team! The dance team won Nationals (big congrats to them) also but they only competed against 1 other team. Their competition was the College Classic in Orlando while the Rest of the College cheerleaders and dancers were in Daytona at NCA. So yes, some competitions everyone is a National Champion. But for college cheer you have to rightly earn College National Champion! Keep in Mind the first few teams behind the were NC state, Florida State, Kent State, and Ohio State and Old Dominion! Let's celebrate the dancers and the cheer squad!

Some old timer is going to bring a huge stack of newspaper to this weekend's series at Blue Bell, ain't he?

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No.

One more clarification….these girls are competitive cheerleaders, they don't have chants or yells. They spend their time flipping, and stunting! Look on their instagram the routine is posted.
Tamu_cheer

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They don't want to be school cheerleaders....trust me....they'd have gone to another SEC school for that. These girls are tumblers and flyers. They've done competitive All-Star cheerleading or floor gymnastics their whole lives and this is a way they can continue on a collegiate level. Their 2 min and 50 sec routine has each of them with both feet on the ground for 1/2 of the time they are on the mat. They don't do cheers, yell, hold pom poms...nothing of the sort.

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Doesn't every cheerleading squad win a national championship at every competition?

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well, since there is only one National Cheerleading Association Collegiate Nationals, then no. This is the only competition available for collegiate cheerleaders.

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People wanting us to be just like everywhere else is ridiculous. You want to be like everyone else, there are plenty of place to choose from. Go be one of them.

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Oh F off. People want to see the pretty girls that A&M has. No one comes here for the milkmen.

Yep, toss our traditions away because some horndogs can't get enough T&A during the regular day that we need to have it on display at athletic events. Go to Hooters and watch the game there if that's what you want.

Our game day experience has sadly become no better than that of some rinky-dink high school - Flag corps, fireworks, disc jockeys, etc. We have become like everywhere else, and as usual, done it in the tackiest way possible. Class seems to no longer be a desired trait in today's world.

Now get off my lawn, New Army.

https://www.kbtx.com/2023/04/10/treat-day-texas-am-cheer-squad-named-2023-nca-national-champions/

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Many of you are against this being on TV



And really prefer seeing at this

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Did you not know this BEFORE you chose Texas A&M? It's what makes A&M who it is. If you want to be like tceh, go to tceh.

At least Texas A&M Cheer will not embarrass our beloved school as the yell boys have done recently with their cringe-worthy jokes, freaky gyrations during yells, and overall goofy actions during Midnight Yell and games.
https://www.outkick.com/texas-am-aggies-embarrasing-yell-leaders-viral-app-state-copyright-delete-twitter-scrub-internet/

Congratulations, Aggie Cheer, on your national championship!

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At least Texas A&M Cheer will not embarrass our beloved school as the yell boys have done recently with their cringe-worthy jokes, freaky gyrations during yells, and overall goofy actions during Midnight Yell and games.
https://www.outkick.com/texas-am-aggies-embarrasing-yell-leaders-viral-app-state-copyright-delete-twitter-scrub-internet/

Congratulations, Aggie Cheer, on your national championship!

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Yell Leaders didn't embarrass me. You know why? Because I'm not a thinned skinned snowflake who gives a **** what others think. We've been doing those "jokes" for 100 years, if it bothers you, don't go to midnight yell. Better yet, go buy you a sippy t-shirt and stfu.

If we can have racist professors teaching Marxism and white guilt, we can by-God have cheerleaders.

Time for cringey yell leaders to go.