What does our 2-Deep look like heading into the fall?

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TL;DR we don't have a 2 deep to compete with Bama or UGA, but we have a 2 deep to compete with everyone else.

Usually when this comes up on here, we're having the talk about becoming 2 deep to compete with Bama. I don't think we are that kind of 2 deep, but at most positions we can handle our own. At a few of our positions, I don't expect us to have 1 amazing starter, but I think we have 2 solid players to fill the position.

Here's my super useless guess...

• QB: I don't expect to have 1 stud, but I expect at least 2 players that give us the chance to win games
• RB: 2 Deep. We all know about Achane, and after the spring game, I feel really good about Amari Daniels. LJ Johnson is another name I think can deliver right now.
• WR: Again, I don't expect to have a slate of studs starting, but we have at least a half dozen guys likeSmith, Stewart, Yulkeith, Moose, Lane and Preston who should be able to give us a chance to win games
• TE: Potentially our weakest position, imo. I doubt we are 2 deep.
• OL: Yes, 2 deep, imo. I don't expect 10 guys to make us 2 deep but I do expect us to have 4-5 very solid starters, and another 2-3 guys who are ready to step up and hold things together in the event of an injury.

• DL: This is a huge wild card to me. So many young guys will be there that we just don't know about but there's enough talent I feel good about being 2 deep here.
• LB: Probably another weak spot. I'm hoping we end up with 3 guys to play this spot well.
• DB: Another really deep position for us. Injuries forced some young guys on the field last year so we have a lot of returning players and added some elite recruits.

TWSS

One could argue that TE is now one of our most talented positions but there is 0 experience so there is much uncertainty as to how good they will be this year.

But otherwise, I mostly agree with your assessment.

I hear Jimbo wants to sit this year out cuz we ain't too deep.

DowntownDallas99 said:

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What does our 2-Deep look like heading into the fall?

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Ask your mum.

QB: Johnson/King
RB: Achane/Daniels
Slot: Smith/Muhammad
X: Stewart/Preston
Z: Lane/Price
T: Zuhn/Crownover
G: Moko/Trainor
C: Foster/Wykoff
G: Robinson/Ogunbiyi
T: Fatheree/Williams

DE: Diggs/J Harris
DE: Adeleye/Lucas
DT: Jackson/Raikes
DT: Turner/Nolen
LB: Cooper/Lee
LB: White/Russell
S: Richardson/Anderson
S: Gilbert/A.Johnson
CB: J Jones/M Jones
CB: Chappell/DHarris
NB: Johnson/Harmon

On offense, Moko and Trainor is the toughest prediction, imo. I went with Moko starting, but that's a battle to keep an eye on. I'm not sold on Aki holding a backup spot either. I'd guess that Bankhead is right on his tail. Tackle is definitely our thinnest position. If a LB goes down, at least the backup has experience in this program. If a tackle goes down? It's gonna hurt. We'll be looking at some real youth. There's a reason we need another tackle in this 23 class so badly.

Defense is REALLY hard to predict, and that's a good thing. There are D Linemen that I didn't even list here that could absolutely see significant playing time. Dindy, Stewart, and Adarious Jones, to name a few

DB is difficult because we have multiple guys that can play multiple positions. Jaylon Jones will probably play CB, but is more than capable at NB and S (maybe better at these positions). AJ has always played NB, but imo, his ceiling is at S. So it's tough to know how that will shake out.

The defense is just so loaded. Durkin should be able to get lots of guys on the field this year with different looks.

If we don't have a Z that can beat out Price, we're in trouble at that position.

My guess is somebody will.

Also curious if anyone can comment on Donnell Harris?

As a smallish but very quick edge, I would've thought he'd have been able to find his way onto the field at lb by now, especially considering our challenges at that position.

Was really hoping to see him contribute by now.

I think he's had some nagging injury issues.

My guess is all positions on DL will see lots of rotating and Harris will be part of that.

Never mind, noticed I was late to the Donnell Harris post.

4 said:

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If we don't have a Z that can beat out Price, we're in trouble at that position.

My guess is somebody will.

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You mean Lane? I'll be shocked if he isn't starting Day 1.

Later in the season? Could absolutely be a different story. But I also think Lane may be better than people are expecting this year.

Sorry, I meant Price in the 2 deep.

4 said:

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Sorry, I meant Price in the 2 deep.

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I'm not sure where Price is at in his development. I definitely liked his ceiling as a recruit

But obviously Chris Marshall is the guy everyone will have their eyes on in fall camp. Just a matter of how fast he picks up the offense

Is balls deep considered too deep?

Qb1: johnson,
Qb2: weigman/king
Rb1: achane
Rb2: LJ
Wr1: stewart, Marshall, smith
Wr2: muhammed, thomas, lane
Te1: green/johnson
Te2: theo/smith
OL1/2: crapshoot.

DE1: Diggs, s stewart
DE2: lucas, turner
DT1: Nolen, jackson
DT2: adeyle, GBD
LB1: white, cooper
LB2: m harris, lee
CB1: jaylon jones, chappell, harris,
CB2: harmon, taylor, bouyie
S1: a johnson, gilbert
S2: matthews, anderson

I can't see any world where Duece Harmon is a starting CB over those other guys.

Edit:. I think I misunderstood your format. Got it now

Back to the Hotel

"Beep beep"

nbaker2022 said:

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But obviously Chris Marshall is the guy everyone will have their eyes on in fall camp. Just a matter of how fast he picks up the offense

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Marshall and Weigman are the two biggest wildcards on offense, IMO. If either of them surprise in camp as far as learning the offense, their playmaking ability can change the complexion of our O.

On defense it's how many of our young elite DL will play at an all-conference level and how long will it take them to get there. That could be the difference in a good D, an elite D, and the top D.

If your WR 2 deep doesn't have Yulkeith Brown, start over

Wurk said:

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If your WR 2 deep doesn't have Yulkeith Brown, start over

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Figure out what position you want to peg them in but Ainias and Yulkeith will both be catching a lot of passes from the slot and a split backfield.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Wurk said:

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If your WR 2 deep doesn't have Yulkeith Brown, start over

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Figure out what position you want to peg them in but Ainias and Yulkeith will both be catching a lot of passes from the slot and a split backfield.

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nbaker2022 said:

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QB: Johnson/King
RB: Achane/Daniels
Slot: Smith/Muhammad
X: Stewart/Preston
Z: Lane/Price
T: Zuhn/Crownover
G: Moko/Trainor
C: Foster/Wykoff
G: Robinson/Ogunbiyi
T: Fatheree/Williams

DE: Diggs/J Harris
DE: Adeleye/Lucas
DT: Jackson/Raikes
DT: Turner/Nolen
LB: Cooper/Lee
LB: White/Russell
S: Richardson/Anderson
S: Gilbert/A.Johnson
CB: J Jones/M Jones
CB: Chappell/DHarris
NB: Johnson/Harmon

On offense, Moko and Trainor is the toughest prediction, imo. I went with Moko starting, but that's a battle to keep an eye on. I'm not sold on Aki holding a backup spot either. I'd guess that Bankhead is right on his tail. Tackle is definitely our thinnest position. If a LB goes down, at least the backup has experience in this program. If a tackle goes down? It's gonna hurt. We'll be looking at some real youth. There's a reason we need another tackle in this 23 class so badly.

Defense is REALLY hard to predict, and that's a good thing. There are D Linemen that I didn't even list here that could absolutely see significant playing time. Dindy, Stewart, and Adarious Jones, to name a few

DB is difficult because we have multiple guys that can play multiple positions. Jaylon Jones will probably play CB, but is more than capable at NB and S (maybe better at these positions). AJ has always played NB, but imo, his ceiling is at S. So it's tough to know how that will shake out.

The defense is just so loaded. Durkin should be able to get lots of guys on the field this year with different looks.

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Clearly you had some dyslexia on Antonio Johnson?

https://aggieswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/03/pff-ranks-antonio-johnson-as-the-no-1-ranked-safety-in-the-2023-nfl-draft/


Edit: My bad he's a Nickle.

Alpha Texan said:

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TL;DR we don't have a 2 deep to compete with Bama or UGA, but we have a 2 deep to compete with everyone else.

Usually when this comes up on here, we're having the talk about becoming 2 deep to compete with Bama. I don't think we are that kind of 2 deep, but at most positions we can handle our own. At a few of our positions, I don't expect us to have 1 amazing starter, but I think we have 2 solid players to fill the position.

Here's my super useless guess...

• QB: I don't expect to have 1 stud, but I expect at least 2 players that give us the chance to win games
• RB: 2 Deep. We all know about Achane, and after the spring game, I feel really good about Amari Daniels. LJ Johnson is another name I think can deliver right now.
• WR: Again, I don't expect to have a slate of studs starting, but we have at least a half dozen guys likeSmith, Stewart, Yulkeith, Moose, Lane and Preston who should be able to give us a chance to win games
• TE: Potentially our weakest position, imo. I doubt we are 2 deep.
• OL: Yes, 2 deep, imo. I don't expect 10 guys to make us 2 deep but I do expect us to have 4-5 very solid starters, and another 2-3 guys who are ready to step up and hold things together in the event of an injury.

• DL: This is a huge wild card to me. So many young guys will be there that we just don't know about but there's enough talent I feel good about being 2 deep here.
• LB: Probably another weak spot. I'm hoping we end up with 3 guys to play this spot well.
• DB: Another really deep position for us. Injuries forced some young guys on the field last year so we have a lot of returning players and added some elite recruits.

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I don't think we will have any "weak" spots on this team.

Maybe you mean relative to other positions?

Wurk said:

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If your WR 2 deep doesn't have Yulkeith Brown, start over

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Nbakers guess is pretty damn good. I like Yulkeith buts he's a fringe two deep guy right now. Likely 6th or 7th in our wr rotation, and very well 3rd slot behind Ainias and Muhammad.

Bad Poster said:

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Qb1: johnson,
Qb2: weigman/king
Rb1: achane
Rb2: LJ
Wr1: stewart, Marshall, smith
Wr2: muhammed, thomas, lane
Te1: green/johnson
Te2: theo/smith
OL1/2: crapshoot.

DE1: Diggs, s stewart
DE2: lucas, turner
DT1: Nolen, jackson
DT2: adeyle, GBD
LB1: white, cooper
LB2: m harris, lee
CB1: jaylon jones, chappell, harris,
CB2: harmon, taylor, bouyie
S1: a johnson, gilbert
S2: matthews, anderson

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Three-year starter at safety on defense can't crack the Two-Deep his senior year?

nbaker2022 said:

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QB: Johnson/King
RB: Achane/Daniels
Slot: Smith/Muhammad
X: Stewart/Preston
Z: Lane/Price
T: Zuhn/Crownover
G: Moko/Trainor
C: Foster/Wykoff
G: Robinson/Ogunbiyi
T: Fatheree/Williams

DE: Diggs/J Harris
DE: Adeleye/Lucas
DT: Jackson/Raikes
DT: Turner/Nolen
LB: Cooper/Lee
LB: White/Russell
S: Richardson/Anderson
S: Gilbert/A.Johnson
CB: J Jones/M Jones
CB: Chappell/DHarris
NB: Johnson/Harmon

On offense, Moko and Trainor is the toughest prediction, imo. I went with Moko starting, but that's a battle to keep an eye on. I'm not sold on Aki holding a backup spot either. I'd guess that Bankhead is right on his tail. Tackle is definitely our thinnest position. If a LB goes down, at least the backup has experience in this program. If a tackle goes down? It's gonna hurt. We'll be looking at some real youth. There's a reason we need another tackle in this 23 class so badly.

Defense is REALLY hard to predict, and that's a good thing. There are D Linemen that I didn't even list here that could absolutely see significant playing time. Dindy, Stewart, and Adarious Jones, to name a few

DB is difficult because we have multiple guys that can play multiple positions. Jaylon Jones will probably play CB, but is more than capable at NB and S (maybe better at these positions). AJ has always played NB, but imo, his ceiling is at S. So it's tough to know how that will shake out.

The defense is just so loaded. Durkin should be able to get lots of guys on the field this year with different looks.

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Thank you nbaker2022. Exactly what I was looking for.

beerad12man said:

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I don't think we will have any "weak" spots on this team.

Maybe you mean relative to other positions?

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Yeah I should clarify... When I say, "weak" spot, I suppose I mean two things. The first is that it is our weakest point and also, "Not likely to match with Bama."

Will our TE's be weak in CFB? Nah. Will that position be able to beat Bama? Not likely.

YULKEITH YULKEITH YULKEITH

nbaker2022 said:

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QB: Johnson/King
RB: Achane/Daniels
Slot: Smith/Muhammad
X: Stewart/Preston
Z: Lane/Price
T: Zuhn/Crownover
G: Moko/Trainor
C: Foster/Wykoff
G: Robinson/Ogunbiyi
T: Fatheree/Williams

DE: Diggs/J Harris
DE: Adeleye/Lucas
DT: Jackson/Raikes
DT: Turner/Nolen
LB: Cooper/Lee
LB: White/Russell
S: Richardson/Anderson
S: Gilbert/A.Johnson
CB: J Jones/M Jones
CB: Chappell/DHarris
NB: Johnson/Harmon

On offense, Moko and Trainor is the toughest prediction, imo. I went with Moko starting, but that's a battle to keep an eye on. I'm not sold on Aki holding a backup spot either. I'd guess that Bankhead is right on his tail. Tackle is definitely our thinnest position. If a LB goes down, at least the backup has experience in this program. If a tackle goes down? It's gonna hurt. We'll be looking at some real youth. There's a reason we need another tackle in this 23 class so badly.

Defense is REALLY hard to predict, and that's a good thing. There are D Linemen that I didn't even list here that could absolutely see significant playing time. Dindy, Stewart, and Adarious Jones, to name a few

DB is difficult because we have multiple guys that can play multiple positions. Jaylon Jones will probably play CB, but is more than capable at NB and S (maybe better at these positions). AJ has always played NB, but imo, his ceiling is at S. So it's tough to know how that will shake out.

The defense is just so loaded. Durkin should be able to get lots of guys on the field this year with different looks.

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I pretty much agree with all of this, but if Chase Lane is getting snaps over Moose then we riot. I don't care if Moose and Smith technically play the same position. Both of those guys need to be on the field at the same time with Stewart being the third guy.

Would love to see Moose get more reps this fall.

But I think Chase will be starting week 1.

Lane is adequate for the slant/in route on 3rd and 7 that we seemed to always try to force to him or Wydermeyer, but he is limited beyond that. Really appreciate his contribution to the program over the years, but I really hope we get to see some new blood getting snaps this year.

I'm more interested in the too deep.