Go rewatch 3rd and two. Wydermeyer is supposed to get a pick from the outside WR. He does not get upfield enough to actually make that pick work. Had he gone upfield at least 1 yard he would have been wide open and made the play easily.

You can only call the plays not make the kid execute.

I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

Run the ball and burn 40 seconds off the clock and even with no first down we win the game. It was a stupid play call in that situation.

A rollout to the left with a right handed QB just makes you shake your head… sure, it works every now and again, but goodness

Wasn't that pass completed for a loss? The clocked should have been running.

agracer said:

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Run the ball and burn 40 seconds off the clock and even with no first down we win the game. It was a stupid play call in that situation.

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we still burned 40 seconds cause he caught it in bounds.

So you're saying a WR didn't do his job? Another reason why Craig's gotta be released!!

aggieclay said:

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So you're saying a WR didn't do his job? Another reason why Craig's gotta be released!!

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wydermeyer didn't do his job.

I also agree a better run call would have been better. I would have called a naked bootleg and give them something no one would expect. Calzada running the ball. But that is just me.

My point though is players gotta execute

Nope. Still can't stand the call.

Run the ball. Stay in bounds. One good push from the OL or a missed tackle and we get the 2 yards. If not, clock still rolls.

A safe short pass to your NFL tight end is a great call. But Wydermyer ran the route short.

We need an OC for sure and this is not the only season play calling has been suspect. Things I would have liked to see is both spiller and achane in together more often or not not staying out a whole damn series. Wildcat formation with spiller, smith, or best achane with option to run or quick toss to 85.

Put in your power back combo and run it straight at them. If you don't get it, line up in the same formation and take it down to 1 second to see if you can get them to jump offsides. If they don't, call time out, then come back out and run it straight at them again.

As a long-time "fan" of the Texans, and the Oilers before them, I gotta tell you, throwing a pass for a loss of yardage on 3rd and short is pretty spectacularly bad.

I cannot recall a worse call. That throw is hard for Patrick Mahomes and we dial it up on a must have 3rd and 2 in tiger stadium….

It's pathetic coaching

I agree completely with the run idea but uh… Well Wydermyer got tackled in bounds so it was the equivalent of a stuffed run and we would still not have won

Wydermyer went down in bounds so the clock did roll as if it were a stuffed run. I agree we should have run but the idea that if we ran, we kill the clock and win is wrong

agracer said:

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Run the ball and burn 40 seconds off the clock and even with no first down we win the game. It was a stupid play call in that situation.

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Why do people keep saying this? He caught the ball. Clock kept running.

Our RBs had been met behind the line of scrimmage all night long. Achane was able to do pretty well getting yards in stretches of the game, but other times he was stifled for several plays in a row and Spiller was rarely able to make it beyond the LOS. The way LSU sold out to stop the run, I see the logic in not running.

TexasAggiesWin said:

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A rollout to the left with a right handed QB just makes you shake your head… sure, it works every now and again, but goodness

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Yeah. Could you ever imagine a play where Payton Manning rolled out to his left? My gosh no way, and Calzada has similar athleticism

I feel like Wydemyer or whatever is more focused on his nfl draft coming up. I know he's better than what we've seen here lately.

I don't care about the play and agree having watched it back. The play was to 1 guy and required that everything went right. That's a very dumb and risky play in that situation. Even if we get it, I'm left scratching my head given the risk/reward equation.

Like or dislike the play call, it was executed horribly. I understand the call though. A one read play to your NFL tight end, rolling your skittish qb out of pressure. Personally would have preferred a run, but not as mad at the call as the execution.

DimebagsGhost said:

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Go rewatch 3rd and two. Wydermeyer is supposed to get a pick from the outside WR. He does not get upfield enough to actually make that pick work. Had he gone upfield at least 1 yard he would have been wide open and made the play easily.

You can only call the plays not make the kid execute.

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Sure. Same with someone missing a block against the 2 ptr at Clemson.

Same with someone missing a block with the 2 pt at Ole Miss.
It is a PATTERN that we have been absolutely terrible in those situations.

We have one of the worst RZ TD% in the country - it all ties together.

How many of you honestly thought we'd make that 3rd and 2? I didn't, because we are awful in those situations.

Is it all just execution? or is it all calling plays that are very difficult to execute? Or not practicing execution enough.

Sorry, but at this point, it's stubbornness on Jimbo's part.
And I am 100% in the Jimbo corner still (not like that matters, he's here for as long as he wants).

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aggieclay said:

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So you're saying a WR didn't do his job? Another reason why Craig's gotta be released!!

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wydermeyer didn't do his job.

I also agree a better run call would have been better. I would have called a naked bootleg and give them something no one would expect. Calzada running the ball. But that is just me.

My point though is players gotta execute

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We can argue the play call all day long but if the play was run correctly it was there. I would have put the game on Spiller and the OL and said go get 2 yards but with them having 7 in the box, I totally understand the play call. And rolling out and throwing right was out of the question due to that being the short side of the field. Simply not enough space over there.

Kids
We need a criticism sandwich rule for this board.

I disagree with the thought it was supposed to be a pick. They were in zone and you don't pick a zone.

I thought we were trying to catch he LB handing the flat to the CB and getting Wyd 1v1 with the CB. My issue was that the ball should have been delivered after 2-3 steps, not a 10 yd rollout. After 5 steps, that play was over.

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Wydermyer went down in bounds so the clock did roll as if it were a stuffed run. I agree we should have run but the idea that if we ran, we kill the clock and win is wrong

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I stand corrected. I was so busy losing my sheet about the play call and answering texts about how bad it was that I missed he went down in bounds.

Spillers foot stays 1/2" to the left and this play is never run.

**** happens.

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Alpha Texan said:

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Wydermyer went down in bounds so the clock did roll as if it were a stuffed run. I agree we should have run but the idea that if we ran, we kill the clock and win is wrong

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I stand corrected. I was so busy losing my sheet about the play call and answering texts about how bad it was that I missed he went down in bounds.

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Super easy misunderstanding to make. I was in the same boat. I was mad that he even threw the pass. The play was busted from the beginning, so just scramble for a couple steps and if nothing is wide open, take the sack to guarantee the clock moves.

TexasAggiesWin said:

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A rollout to the left with a right handed QB just makes you shake your head… sure, it works every now and again, but goodness

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This. And wasn't it to the short side of the field as well. Why not roll to the right with your right handed QB and have more field for the D to cover?

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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A rollout to the left with a right handed QB just makes you shake your head… sure, it works every now and again, but goodness

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This. And wasn't it to the short side of the field as well. Why not roll to the right with your right handed QB and have more field for the D to cover?

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Well, #1, the defense typically puts more people to the wide side (walks a safety down). If the idea is to create a 1v1, going to the side with more people that are watching the QB's eyes doesn't really do that.

The rolling left issue really isn't an issue if the "roll" is 2-3 steps and throw.

Here's one of my questions (I have many): On 3rd & 2, you know the defense is going to super alert to the run. On that play, Spiller ended up being an edge pass blocker. Why not run playaction with him? Wouldn't that hold that LB that ultimately ran out in the flat with Wyd?

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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A rollout to the left with a right handed QB just makes you shake your head… sure, it works every now and again, but goodness

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This. And wasn't it to the short side of the field as well. Why not roll to the right with your right handed QB and have more field for the D to cover?

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Nope. We just ran out of bounds to the right. Ball was on the right hash.

Wydermeyer looked half speed all day, I was thinking he was playing through sickness or something. His poor play affected our run game too.

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DimebagsGhost said:

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Go rewatch 3rd and two. Wydermeyer is supposed to get a pick from the outside WR. He does not get upfield enough to actually make that pick work. Had he gone upfield at least 1 yard he would have been wide open and made the play easily.

You can only call the plays not make the kid execute.

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Sure. Same with someone missing a block against the 2 ptr at Clemson.

Same with someone missing a block with the 2 pt at Ole Miss.
It is a PATTERN that we have been absolutely terrible in those situations.

We have one of the worst RZ TD% in the country - it all ties together.

How many of you honestly thought we'd make that 3rd and 2? I didn't, because we are awful in those situations.

Is it all just execution? or is it all calling plays that are very difficult to execute? Or not practicing execution enough.

Sorry, but at this point, it's stubbornness on Jimbo's part.
And I am 100% in the Jimbo corner still (not like that matters, he's here for as long as he wants).

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I would argue that stubborn would be running into a 5 front.

I wanted stubborn on that play.

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Traveler said:

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DimebagsGhost said:

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Go rewatch 3rd and two. Wydermeyer is supposed to get a pick from the outside WR. He does not get upfield enough to actually make that pick work. Had he gone upfield at least 1 yard he would have been wide open and made the play easily.

You can only call the plays not make the kid execute.

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Sure. Same with someone missing a block against the 2 ptr at Clemson.

Same with someone missing a block with the 2 pt at Ole Miss.
It is a PATTERN that we have been absolutely terrible in those situations.

We have one of the worst RZ TD% in the country - it all ties together.

How many of you honestly thought we'd make that 3rd and 2? I didn't, because we are awful in those situations.

Is it all just execution? or is it all calling plays that are very difficult to execute? Or not practicing execution enough.

Sorry, but at this point, it's stubbornness on Jimbo's part.
And I am 100% in the Jimbo corner still (not like that matters, he's here for as long as he wants).

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I would argue that stubborn would be running into a 5 front.

I wanted stubborn on that play.

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I agree with you - the running game (with Achane) was doing a little something at that point.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but if you take everything as a whole, there is something seriously flawed with the O in RZ/short-yardage this year. The stats don't lie in this case.

I put that on Jimbo.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Spillers foot stays 1/2" to the left and this play is never run.

**** happens.

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Or Spiller doesn't get anywhere near the sideline on that play and we either take another 30 secs off the clock, or more than likely LSU uses its final timeout. Then after Clemons sack on 2nd down LSU has to scramble on 3rd and long instead of using that timeout to call their next couple of plays. Even if they convert they are most likely throwing a hail mary at the end instead of scoring with 30 secs left.

Cardinal sin of football is going out of bounds in that situation and we did it. Auburn did the same thing yesterday and lost because of it. Maybe the coaches did emphatically remind them, but they still screwed up.

Lot of what-ifs last night, but that ended up being a killer and it's funny how it always does seem to kill teams when players make that mistake.