Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

agdaddy04 said:

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Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

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How do you figure? If he stayed in LSU has to use their final TO or we would have run another 30 off. Then LSU has to run 3rd and 11 after a sack with no timeout called. You don't get a playcall and set after a sack in 9 seconds.

That damn sure is more than 9 seconds either way.

God forbid anyone around here criticize Santo Jimbo.

A good coach tailors his play calling to take into accounts both the strength and weaknesses of his players. Quit calling overcomplicated plays that are above their abilities. After all, not everyone is a generational talent like Winston, so maybe it's time to stop basing your playbook around that assumption.

After all, any coach can look good with generational talent - The great ones are able to do so without.

It was a questionable play call and then poorly executed on top
Of it. Put the ball in Achane's hands would
Have been the smart play and let your best athlete win it for you imo. Tried to be too cute. LSU should never have had the ball to pull the W out of their butts.

Quit making excuses for that horrific play call.

1). 2 big games in a row and Jimbo abandoned what was working (Achane) for what isn't (Spiller and Calzada)

2). A few minutes left and we are in way better shape running the ball vs risking an incomplete pass.

3). Aside from one great TD pass, what is Jimbo seeing in Calzada that nobody else sees?

Scotty Appleton said:

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agdaddy04 said:

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Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

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How do you figure? If he stayed in LSU has to use their final TO or we would have run another 30 off. Then LSU has to run 3rd and 11 after a sack with no timeout called. You don't get a playcall and set after a sack in 9 seconds.

That damn sure is more than 9 seconds either way.

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Spiller not staying bounds let them save a timeout I would've traded 7 yards for staying bounds. It's little things we don't do like when beat (Jones) tackle the receiver don't let him go. Get an interference or holding call if you are beat.

phatty26 said:

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Scotty Appleton said:

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agdaddy04 said:

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Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

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How do you figure? If he stayed in LSU has to use their final TO or we would have run another 30 off. Then LSU has to run 3rd and 11 after a sack with no timeout called. You don't get a playcall and set after a sack in 9 seconds.

That damn sure is more than 9 seconds either way.

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Spiller not staying bounds let them save a timeout I would've traded 7 yards for staying bounds. It's little things we don't do like when beat (Jones) tackle the receiver don't let him go. Get an interference or holding call if you are beat.

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Yep. Gilbert could have horse collared #33 on the TD before halftime as well. Penalty is better than giving up the TD.

Spiller going out of bounds gave LSU at least 20 seconds and made their final drive less chaotic; especially since we got the sack on the 2nd play. Again, if Spiller just stays in bounds LSU most likely is throwing a Hail Mary instead of scoring with 30 secs left.

I was screaming for play action passes in the Auburn game with Auburn consistently crashing the LOS to stop the run. Same against LSU. Fisher won't run that. Why?

Yes, we didn't like the 3rd down call either. Whether bad play call or poor execution can be debated.

However, what is even more frustrating (that senior defensive starters will live with for a lifetime) is the FIGHTIN' TEXAS AGGIES not keeping LSU out of the end zone, with 1:31 remaining, no timeouts, ball on the 14, and 3rd and 11!

BTHO tu forever!!!

aTmneal said:

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I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

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They had stopped him on like 90% of his carries. You and I watched two very different games

4.1 Ypc

phatty26 said:

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Scotty Appleton said:

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agdaddy04 said:

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Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

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How do you figure? If he stayed in LSU has to use their final TO or we would have run another 30 off. Then LSU has to run 3rd and 11 after a sack with no timeout called. You don't get a playcall and set after a sack in 9 seconds.

That damn sure is more than 9 seconds either way.

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Spiller not staying bounds let them save a timeout I would've traded 7 yards for staying bounds. It's little things we don't do like when beat (Jones) tackle the receiver don't let him go. Get an interference or holding call if you are beat.

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Because the clock only stops for as long as it takes to set the ball prior to 2 minutes left in the half. So that took 9 seconds. The clock started with 31 seconds on the play clock. 40-31 is 9 seconds.

Between crappy 3rd down conversion and very crappy red zone TD % it is absolutely clear to everybody but Jimbo that Texas A&M Football needs an impactful OC, who's sole responsibility is putting points on the board with the players we have, against the defenses of our opponents, under sometimes crap officiating.

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4.1 Ypc

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46 of his 49 yards on 3 carries. The last two carries were for 0 & -2 yards. Anyone acting like it's a given he picks up 2 yards is just fooling themselves

The play before was such a great idea to pitch it out to Spiller who kept getting stuffed all night and finally broke a run because he got out in space. Why not just do that again to get the 2 yards and end the game?

I wish we had run something similar to what the Cowboys do when they line up offensive lineman Conner McGovern as the fullback and let Zeke plow thru. Line up Isaiah Raikes or McKinley Jackson as fullback and make them stop you twice. Even if we don't get it, I'd feel LSU earned it instead of us shooting ourselves in the foot.

Seems like they would have a 2 point conversion play in their pocket that would work in that situation.

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agracer said:

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Run the ball and burn 40 seconds off the clock and even with no first down we win the game. It was a stupid play call in that situation.

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we still burned 40 seconds cause he caught it in bounds.

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I stand corrected, thought it was OB.

aTmneal said:

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I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

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A lot of calls when the game is in the balance are extremely risky, especially when the other team's defense is stacking the line to stop the run and they are very good at doing it. Hello!!!

wheelz said:

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aTmneal said:

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I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

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A lot of calls when the game is in the balance are extremely risky, especially when the other team's defense is stacking the line to stop the run and they are very good at doing it. Hello!!!

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Pitch the ball out to Spiller like you did for 8 yards on the previous play. If Jimbo did that no one would be questioning him if it didn't work.

I agree there's
No guarantee but if Achane is in the game he would be getting attention from the defense . If nothing else he's an effective decoy. Having said that he was the most effective offensive weapon throughout the game as a receiver and a rusher and he is our best athlete. I'd have put the ball in his hands.

Jmo, a toss sweep to Achane has a much better chance of success than whatever that was that they ran.

I was more upset with Spillers lack of effort to go for the first down the play before to set this play up. He just half heartedly finished the play. No awareness.

1) They had literally been penetrating our line the entire game while blitzing. There was a reason we hadn't run the ball well at all the entire game.

2) I don't agree exactly with that direction of the rollout but dammit, Wyd has to have the awareness to know where the first down line was.

DimebagsGhost said:

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Go rewatch 3rd and two. Wydermeyer is supposed to get a pick from the outside WR. He does not get upfield enough to actually make that pick work. Had he gone upfield at least 1 yard he would have been wide open and made the play easily.

You can only call the plays not make the kid execute.

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Exactly, JW's first step was to his left and runs towards the sideline. If he takes one step forward and then cuts #18 does not have a straight shot at defending the catch, JW makes catch and turns up field and gets the 1st down

Gig em G said:

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Nope. Still can't stand the call.

Run the ball. Stay in bounds. One good push from the OL or a missed tackle and we get the 2 yards. If not, clock still rolls.

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hadn't happened all night, or much of the season for that matter.

Yes, people convinced we could make a 3rd and 2 there by running it obviously hadn't been paying attention to the game.

agdaddy04 said:

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phatty26 said:

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Scotty Appleton said:

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agdaddy04 said:

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Running out of bounds cost us 9 seconds. That's it. 9.

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How do you figure? If he stayed in LSU has to use their final TO or we would have run another 30 off. Then LSU has to run 3rd and 11 after a sack with no timeout called. You don't get a playcall and set after a sack in 9 seconds.

That damn sure is more than 9 seconds either way.

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Spiller not staying bounds let them save a timeout I would've traded 7 yards for staying bounds. It's little things we don't do like when beat (Jones) tackle the receiver don't let him go. Get an interference or holding call if you are beat.

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Because the clock only stops for as long as it takes to set the ball prior to 2 minutes left in the half. So that took 9 seconds. The clock started with 31 seconds on the play clock. 40-31 is 9 seconds.

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It was technically 15 seconds. After the review, they reset the clock to the time he went out of bounds and then ran a 25 second play clock like they always do after a stoppage of play. If he had stayed in bounds, it would have been a 40 second play clock starting from the same time. In the end, it didn't change the outcome of the game.

WhataMaroon88 said:

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I was more upset with Spillers lack of effort to go for the first down the play before to set this play up. He just half heartedly finished the play. No awareness.

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I thought he was fighting pretty well while being facemasked. That review of spot was a huge middle finger to us, IMO. We didn't execute the play called very well. It was a lower success play than handing off, but we weren't able to pick up their blitzing very well all night. I'm old but on some level I feel like putting 7 men on the line and taking a snap from under center made 3rd and 2 so much easier.

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wheelz said:

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aTmneal said:

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I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

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A lot of calls when the game is in the balance are extremely risky, especially when the other team's defense is stacking the line to stop the run and they are very good at doing it. Hello!!!

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Pitch the ball out to Spiller like you did for 8 yards on the previous play. If Jimbo did that no one would be questioning him if it didn't work.

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This is just patently false.

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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wheelz said:

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aTmneal said:

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I don't care what anyone says.

That call was extremely risky in that position, especially when you had a RB on the bench that they couldn't stop.

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A lot of calls when the game is in the balance are extremely risky, especially when the other team's defense is stacking the line to stop the run and they are very good at doing it. Hello!!!

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Pitch the ball out to Spiller like you did for 8 yards on the previous play. If Jimbo did that no one would be questioning him if it didn't work.

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This is just patently false.

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Yea you're right, I know I wouldn't be questioning him though.

Two key plays of the game: 1) TD before halftime; 2) game winning TD.

Bob Knights Liver said:

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WhataMaroon88 said:

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I was more upset with Spillers lack of effort to go for the first down the play before to set this play up. He just half heartedly finished the play. No awareness.

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I thought he was fighting pretty well while being facemasked. That review of spot was a huge middle finger to us, IMO. We didn't execute the play called very well. It was a lower success play than handing off, but we weren't able to pick up their blitzing very well all night. I'm old but on some level I feel like putting 7 men on the line and taking a snap from under center made 3rd and 2 so much easier.

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Maybe I need to go back and watch it again. We didn't seem to get any of the 50/50 calls falll our way this game.

Yes, on the drive for LSU prior to that they were given a 1st down on a play that looked like it was almost two yards short. Even the announcers mentioned something about it. Luckily they didn't score on that drive, but it did allow them to get some extra yards to back us up further.