Okay ladies, you're both pretty. Now can we end this thread already?

It's real easy to play second fiddle from a safe place cowgirl. What hot takes do you have from behind enemy lines?

Jack Friday said:

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It's real easy to play second fiddle from a safe place cowgirl. What hot takes do you have from behind enemy lines?

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This is an internet forum, bro. Everyone's in a safe place. And none of us play for or coach any of these teams. Maybe just chill and talk football like a normal person.

So you have to play or coach, to have a "normal" football conversation on an open public football forum? WTF does that even mean? I've been talking SEC football here and not basket weaving. Why do you care? Go to a thread where everyone tells you what you want hear. Doesn't work that way in real world. Here's some normal football convo for you then.

Draw a triangle from LA to SC to SFL. Now count the football Nattys in that recruiting triangle. Crashing that party and joining that club is not a foregone conclusion and not guaranteed. There are some SICK athletes out here. That's not my opinion that's a football FACT.

Every SEC Champ not named LSU recruits FL & GA HEAVILY these days. If Jimbo monopolizes recruiting in FL, GA & TX then I'm going to GUARANTEE AN A&M NATTY MYSELF, but that recruiting monopoly is never going to happen...even with NIL. Nothing disparaging or out of line about that. Just facts.

The future is bright, recruiting is ridiculous, Im drinking the koolaid too but, I also live in football reality.

Here's a little more football Intel for you from behind enemy lines. In FL & LA, inner-city HSFB still wins state chips at the highest levels. Miami and NO public schools still win big. Unlike inner-city Houston and Dallas schools that are GUTTED and NON-COMPETITIVE. Jack Yates and Carter ain't winning sh*t any time soon.

So the sick athlete that Saban just recruited from Miami Gardens or Algiers, that's ready to break your ribs in the A-Gap is a state-champ, edgy, crafty plus whatever urban tags you want to place on him. Something that TXHSFB seems to be missing. Take that into consideration when you're underestimating the rest of the conference...

Jack Friday said:

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Here's a little more football Intel for you from behind enemy lines. In FL & LA, inner-city HSFB still wins state chips at the highest levels. Miami and NO public schools still win big. Unlike inner-city Houston and Dallas schools that are GUTTED and NON-COMPETITIVE. Jack Yates and Carter ain't winning sh*t any time soon.

So the sick athlete that Saban just recruited from Miami Gardens or Algiers, that's ready to break your ribs in the A-Gap is a state-champ, edgy, crafty plus whatever urban tags you want to place on him. Something that TXHSFB seems to be missing. Take that into consideration when you're underestimating the rest of the conference...

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Wow. Well done.
This is exactly how you tell us you're an idiot, without just telling us verbatim that you're an idiot.

No amount of name calling is going to make inner city Houston or Dallas HSFB win a state championship, idiot. Name one. North Shore and DeSoto aren't inner-city public schools...A&M can't recruit NS anyway...

Jack Friday said:

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No amount of name calling is going to make inner city Houston or Dallas HSFB win a state championship, idiot. Name one. North Shore and DeSoto aren't inner-city public schools...A&M can't recruit NS anyway...

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Whether top-tier talent is "inner-city" or not is irrelevant.

The sum of every BAMF HSF player from inner-city Houston & Dallas has produced what for A&M?

Jack Friday said:

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The sum of every BAMF HSF player from inner-city Houston & Dallas has produced what for A&M?

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Again, irrelevant. Past, present, or future….the origin of any top-tier player and where they ultimately stem from….whether the city, state, or country….or being inner-city, suburb, or rural….is irrelevant.

If you think I'm all alone in a vacuum saying that TXHSFB, especially the 7o7 version, is soft then you really need to get out more.

If you think that winning, HSFB cultures in Miami and N.O. inner-cities have NOTHING to do with those Nattys in the triangle that I mentioned above then you really, really, really need to get out more...

fun fact:

Mighty South Carolina is 2-2 against the Big 6 this season.

Oh, and got destroyed by lowly A&M.

Jack Friday said:

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If you think I'm all alone in a vacuum saying that TXHSFB, especially the 7o7 version, is soft then you really need to get out more.

If you think that winning, HSFB football cultures in Miami and N.O. inner-cities have NOTHING to do with those Nattys in the triangle that I mentioned above then you really, really, really need to get out more...

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In today's game, every top-tier team is gonna recruit every top-tier player from wherever they may happen to be, regardless.
Your "triangle" doesn't limit its recruiting efforts to that triangle, just like Texas schools don't limit their recruiting efforts to the state of Texas.

Hey, all I can say to you is this - count the number of Nattys on this side of the triangle and then count number of Natty's on your side of the triangle. The facts and causations paint a pretty clear picture. How irrelevant is that?

Can you pull up the championship rosters from all the big 6 natty wins in the last 20 years and show us how many "inner city, urban, Miami and New Orleans" kids are on them?


A very small quick search on a couple hesiman running backs for bama, mark ingram is from michigan. Yea he played in flint for a couple years but he also played for a school that is 80% white and a suburb before that. And derrick henry is from Florida but Yulee, FL. Which if youre from Florida you know that that is a very non-"urban" higj school.

Not interested. The state chips that inner-city districts in Miami & N.O. have produced is public info tho, look it up. The talent and competition within Miami Central's district is far from SOFT, they're good, they win and the get they recruited. The hood has 5 Nattys in Miami alone and several more won inside the triangle...How many does your hood have?

Versus the gutted-out, non-competitive IC HSFB districts and programs in Houston and Dallas. That dont produce Natty's in TX. Neither do the burbs or the farms...Real Simple. TXHSFB is recognized as SOFT brah. I'm not the only one saying it. Im not in a vacuum . No sugar coating. It is what it is. Jimbo's clearly addressing that issue.

Jack Friday said:

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Hey, all I can say to you is this - count the number of Nattys on this side of the triangle and then count number of Natty's on your side of the triangle. The facts and causations paint a pretty clear picture. How irrelevant is that?

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It's still very irrelevant.
Damn near every Natty within your "triangle" is littered with players from everywhere, including Texas, California, and several other states that extend well beyond your triangle.

Jack Friday said:

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Not interested. The state chips that inner-city districts in Miami & N.O. have produced is public info tho, look it up. The talent and competition within Miami Central's district is far from SOFT, they're good, they win and the get they recruited. The hood has 5 Nattys in Miami alone and several more won inside the triangle...How many does your hood have?

Versus the gutted-out, non-competitive IC HSFB districts and programs in Houston and Dallas. That dont produce Natty's in TX. Neither do the burbs or the farms...Real Simple. TXHSFB is recognized as SOFT brah. I'm not the only one saying it. Im not in a vacuum . No sugar coating. It is what it is. Jimbo's clearly addressing that issue.

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Well damn, I guess there's no reason for any of the top tier programs to recruit the state of Texas anymore.
I'm sure Saban and Smart are awaiting your call, so you can tell them the news.

Well, now Jimbo needs to keep the best in State then. I wish we had a Myles Garrett every year. The 7o7 version of TX football is soft tho. Our best LB is from LA and nobody in the LB rotation is a tough guy from TX...

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Jack Friday said:

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Hey, all I can say to you is this - count the number of Nattys on this side of the triangle and then count number of Natty's on your side of the triangle. The facts and causations paint a pretty clear picture. How irrelevant is that?

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It's still very irrelevant.
Damn near every Natty within your "triangle" is littered with players from everywhere, including Texas, California, and several other states that extend well beyond your triangle.

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Yes, they recruit better on this side of the triangle too. But, before Najee Harris (nice player), Bamas QB and Clemson's QB (neither have won sh*t yet) the State of CA HAS NEVER DONE DICK in the SEC or "the triangle". Nada. Name something. Take that BS somewhere else.....On the other hand, if A&M keeps Ashawn Robinson, Jalen Hurts, KMurray, Danielle Hunter or Mike Brockers in state then, maybe there's a little more on field success...

So far in the 00s I see the 3 miami champs in 6A. But you also have apopka and naples and st thomas aquinas and other schools that arent choc full of knee grows. And Im trying to understand what you are saying. Are you saying you can only win championships with players from Miami and New Orleans? Based on checking the state hsfb champs in flawduh from 2000-2009 i see more suburban and rural schools winning championships. Granted Im just using my lose experience and demographics searches.

Plenty of players all over the country whom are not "soft". Derrick Henry is a prime example. Sometimes you just have to be a country tough sumbish that loves football.

And I'm not disagreeing with your point, you need tough players. But they dont have to come from Miami

Wow SOC beat Aledo. Maybe the state of Inner-City Dallas FB isn't as hopeless and destitute as it seems.
Let's see if they can win it all like the Miami HS teams do.

Miami Central, Miami NW and Miami Carol City have nineteen (19) 5A & 6A state titles between them RECENTLY. They created the newer 7A and 8A divisions over the last few years to give other FL schools a chance to win a title because the Miami schools are so dominant....And then there's those 5 Nattys.

That would be like Forest Brook, Smiley and Kashmere in North Houston winning 19 state titles and dominating TXHSFB - LOLOLOL, if those school's athletics weren't so decrepit, gutted and in shambles...Same for Worthing, JY and Madison on the south side. There's ZERO culture of winning HSFB districts in TX hoods like there is in Miami. No comparison.

https://floridagridironpreps.com/high-school/6/Miami-Northwestern

https://www.floridagridironpreps.com/high-school/72/school.php?hsid=6

https://www.floridagridironpreps.com/high-school/66/Carol-City-Senior-High-School

Who gives a F whether any of the inner-city schools, Miami or otherwise, win it or not??
Are you trying to say that a player with an inner-city upbringing is somehow better than a player that stems from elsewhere??