Jimbo is playing with his backup QB and beat Bama. A few losses but at the end of the day, he is playing with a backup due to injury. The future still looks very bright.

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2nd Generation Ag said:

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We lose a lot this year. Next year is a rebuilding year unfortunately

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Another idiot poster.

And yes, Fisher does need some self-development as the offensive play caller. My one fear with Jimbo is his inability to change and become a bit more "innovative". But he certainly wins a HELL of a lot more than he losses so let's not forget this either. He choose to ride Zach to the holy land and this cost us the game. The gamble didn't pay off. Hopefully he learns from it and files it away from the next similar game. If Zach would have performed better, we wouldn't be talking about Fisher's play calling. But I do question Jimbo for putting it on Zach.

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um, next year is a rebuilding year on defense.

less than half the starters return

Don't you know, it must really chap Saban's behind and keep him awake at night that he lost to a really bad, sorry-ass team coached by one of his former assistants.

BTHO PVAM… and tu forever!!!

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dcg4403 said:

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2nd Generation Ag said:

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We lose a lot this year. Next year is a rebuilding year unfortunately

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Another idiot poster.

And yes, Fisher does need some self-development as the offensive play caller. My one fear with Jimbo is his inability to change and become a bit more "innovative". But he certainly wins a HELL of a lot more than he losses so let's not forget this either. He choose to ride Zach to the holy land and this cost us the game. The gamble didn't pay off. Hopefully he learns from it and files it away from the next similar game. If Zach would have performed better, we wouldn't be talking about Fisher's play calling. But I do question Jimbo for putting it on Zach.

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um, next year is a rebuilding year on defense.

less than half the starters return

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And we have talent filling the gaps. A rebuilding year is not reloading and expecting talent to fall off.

I like turtles

You say he goes with what the defense gives him, but then give several examples that contradict that. Too many times he tries to stick to the script and doesn't go back to what works. Should've ran Achane until they figured it out and he'd be 8-2 this morning.

Jimbo is great but our offense is a problem. It's weird hearing about how we missed a block here or there otherwise we are an explosive offense.

Missed assignment, missed assignment, missed assignment….

This 'dog at my homework' explanation for the offense being ineffective is starting to add up. How many times can 'assignments be missed' before changes are made.

Lotta missed assignments in the grade book at this point in the semester.

King is just so much better than Calzad

Based on what?

He needs to be more innovative and scheme his play-calling around what fits the strengths/weaknesses of his offense each game.

He should've recognized early on that Achane had the hot hand and gave him more carries. That's the beauty of having two good backs. When a defense has it out for one you sick the other one on them.

I understand we lost our 1st-string QB but look at Kirby Smart & Georgia. They've had their backup QB (Stetson Bennett) and they're still taking care of business. Tennessee was giving them a headache but they figured it out. I guarantee it's bc of how they adjust their play-calling to fit their current build.
Why can't we do that? We have plenty of talent and a full cycle of Jimbo's recruiting. I know the talent will be better next year and we'll have a better QB and all that. But what about this season? 10 season wins and a NY6 bowl would have been great! Jimbo had it for the taking but was too stubborn to adjust his strategy and not fully rely on Calzada.
What about in the future when players get hurt or things don't go our way?? Will Jimbo be able to deviate from his gameplan and create one that best fits our offense per game?

I'm a fan of Jimbo by the way and what he's done. But it could be better and needs to be.

bv86ag said:

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If Jimbo Fisher doesn't produce a better product next year...and compete for the SEC title and playoff spot in 2023...then he will be gone.
And the BMA's would have spent nearly 100 million of guaranteed money for absolutely nothing.

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He already did that last season, dumba**

I guess i missed that SEC title game amd playoff game we were in
DUMBA**

Jimbo Fisher is the best coach we've had since at least Jackie Sherrill. Since joining the SEC, we posted 3 winning SEC records (6-2 in 2012, 5-3 in 2018 and 8-1 in 2020), and 2 of them were under Jimbo. If we beat LSU in Baton Rouge, we will finish 5-3 in SEC games this year, and that would mean posting a winning SEC record for the 2nd year in a row for the first time. Also, it would mean a 9-3 regular season and an opportunity for a 10th win in our bowl game. Hopefully, 2020 is the start of stacking good or great seasons and not losing more than 3 games in any season.

Under Kevin Sumlin, we went 8-14 in SEC home games. Even worse, we went 3-12 SEC West teams at Kyle Field, including a 7-game losing streak at the end of Sumlin's tenure. By contrast, Jimbo is 12-3 in SEC home SEC games, including 7-3 against SEC West teams.

I think the biggest issue with our offense is poor execution from missed blocking assignments and dropped passes. Ole Miss clamped down to stop our running game. Jimbo decided to try to throw on Ole Miss, but Zach Calzada wasn't good enough to make Ole Miss pay for selling out on stopping the run. He played well in the 2nd half before throwing two costly interceptions that doomed us.

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But other than that, what more do you want? Demas was the 3rd WR in his class, Achane was the 4th RB in his class, Cupp was the top ranked TE, Green was the 3rd ranked OT, Spiller was the 9th ranked RB, Foster was the 5th ranked OT....I could go on and on. All these guys were 4* and up.

All that to say, at some point the coaching and scheme are to blame, not recruiting. Jimbo is wrapping up year 4, meaning he's had a complete cycle of recruiting classes now. We can't continue to blame "lack of talent" much longer.

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Just to be clear: you are explicitly giving recruiting services credit for during ranking determining fit and things like breakaway ability based on high school-level competition.

I absolutely agree the coaching staff has to win with what they recruit which means the onus of recruiting AND development both fall on the coaches. But your premise is in effect that a rating service is capable of predicting future success. I'll argue that view is complicated by their own malfeasance in re-rating based on school that recruits them so they (the service) can sell more eyeballs.

Should a notional five star WR be able to create separation in all situations? Depends on the talent and skill of him compared to his competition. It is somewhat schemable. But somewhat not.

Agreed. Those drops killed us. Particularly the Demas one in the endzone. But as far as running the ball, had Jimbo fed Achane more carries I think he would have worked some magic as they could not stop him in the 2nd half. Ole Miss was shutting down Spiller especially up the middle. But Achane is special I wish Jimbo gave him more carries. It was an Achane-kind-of-game, not Spiller-time. Some games it's the other way around but that's the beauty of having two good backs.

Another thing that's interesting is in the Ainias Smith segment, he states that during warmups before the game he could tell the energy was lower than usual and that he witnessed things such as players not going full speed and dropping some.
There's gotta be a way to get these guys fired up before these kind of away games. Whether it's an influential leader-type player or a Jimbo pregame speech I dont know.

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bv86ag said:

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If Jimbo Fisher doesn't produce a better product next year...and compete for the SEC title and playoff spot in 2023...then he will be gone.
And the BMA's would have spent nearly 100 million of guaranteed money for absolutely nothing.

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This is beyond dumb

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Wow. OK, at what point does he need to be competitive? Last year we weren't, which imo doesn't count because of covid and everything that went along with that. This year we werent. If not in 2023, then when? That's year 6.

Obviously, you don't expect Fisher to compete at a Saban or Dabo like level, despite the fact that we pay him Saban and Dabo money.

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I guess i missed that SEC title game amd playoff game we were in
DUMBA**

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Then say it that way. You said "compete for". 5th when the top 4 goes is competing for, just didn't achieve.

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Missed assignment, missed assignment, missed assignment….

This 'dog at my homework' explanation for the offense being ineffective is starting to add up. How many times can 'assignments be missed' before changes are made.

Lotta missed assignments in the grade book at this point in the semester.

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They aren't playing against air or a middle school team. NFL players miss assignments all the time.

More than anything it is better overall and a better approach than constantly talking about missed QB reads and missed QB passes, as that is the primary issue with the offense. All those missed reads McGee talks about in the (excellent) film room segment, Jimbo see those in real time, and expects his QB to NOT make those mistake but make the correct read and throw every time. It may not be a good throw, it may not be complete, but the read must be right. If that were happening much less often we would have a very potent offense IMHO.

You said competing for, not playing in the SEC title game. Regardless, your post is ridiculous. Jimbo has already has a Top 5 finish and is recruiting at an elite level, and you are saying if we don't play in the SEC title game and get in the CFP next season he will be gone. That would be very stupid.

He took over a 7-5 program and has already elevated it and is continuing to elevate it.

I would have liked to see us run the ball with Achane on the drive with ~ 6 minutes left down by 2. But do people just forget that the throw was there and it was just poorly executed? I mean it was a good play call and design. Very open.

Just because it wasn't the play call that TexAgs wanted doesn't mean it was a bad play call.

bv86ag said:

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How about you folks just keep having blind faith in Jimbo and letting this crap keep playing out with one excuse or another each year.
It's been going on since 1939...82 years now.
What's a few more years gonna hurt huh?

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what excuses? What part of this season made you think we win it all? Was it the amount of money we paid Jimbo? Doesn't work like that. Takes time to build

CCP Joe Veggie said:

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cevans_40 said:

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bv86ag said:

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If Jimbo Fisher doesn't produce a better product next year...and compete for the SEC title and playoff spot in 2023...then he will be gone.
And the BMA's would have spent nearly 100 million of guaranteed money for absolutely nothing.

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This is beyond dumb

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Wow. OK, at what point does he need to be competitive? Last year we weren't, which imo doesn't count because of covid and everything that went along with that. This year we werent. If not in 2023, then when? That's year 6.

Obviously, you don't expect Fisher to compete at a Saban or Dabo like level, despite the fact that we pay him Saban and Dabo money.

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last year we weren't competitive? Really? You don't watch football then. My lord son

Cliff notes version of this please.

bv86ag said:

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If Jimbo Fisher doesn't produce a better product next year...and compete for the SEC title and playoff spot in 2023...then he will be gone.
And the BMA's would have spent nearly 100 million of guaranteed money for absolutely nothing.

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oh please….. this post SCREAMS "i'm a'******bag 'sip". and if there's any doubt, read his 2nd post just a few posts down. get a life, loser.

Obligatory

I know you like Jimbo, but he is married.

Off_The_Wood said:

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I'll agree with you that we lack talent at [starting] QB this season.

But other than that, what more do you want? Demas was the 3rd WR in his class, Achane was the 4th RB in his class, Cupp was the top ranked TE, Green was the 3rd ranked OT, Spiller was the 9th ranked RB, Foster was the 5th ranked OT....I could go on and on. All these guys were 4* and up.

All that to say, at some point the coaching and scheme are to blame, not recruiting. Jimbo is wrapping up year 4, meaning he's had a complete cycle of recruiting classes now. We can't continue to blame "lack of talent" much longer.

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I don't care how many stars a pass-catcher has, he can't throw himself the ball. Calzada has great character and a cannon for an arm, but struggles with consistency, accuracy, and touch. He's good enough to start for most teams in the country, but at this point, isn't ready to lead a team to a natty. Maybe he'll get the complete package together for next season and maybe not. Either way, we'll have more options for QB next year and a better competition.

Divining Rod said:

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bv86ag said:

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If Jimbo Fisher doesn't produce a better product next year...and compete for the SEC title and playoff spot in 2023...then he will be gone.
And the BMA's would have spent nearly 100 million of guaranteed money for absolutely nothing.

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oh please….. this post SCREAMS "i'm a'******bag 'sip". and if there's any doubt, read his 2nd post just a few posts down. get a life, loser.

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Yes!!! He's just embarrassed because his team sucks.