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chasing women after he got divorced 6 weeks after he won the natty. He was apparently more focused on chasing women than the football team.

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I believe that and have seen all the bimbo eruptions/rumors that get posted on a certain other site. I haven't seen anything about problems regarding Trump or BLM.

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It's the "inferior talent" part that is the problem. LSU has never not had top ten recruiting . They have the talent and they don't think the talent is commensurate with the results .

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When I said "inferior talent", I meant in comparison to Florida. LSU beat a superior talented Florida teams in two straight years as a double digit underdog.

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They don't have inferior talent according to any recruiting service.

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It's because they can't understand what he's saying.

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Lol probably true. We'd hear all these stories about how O loves the community by supporting these single moms. All of these single moms. So many hot, young, single moms. Coach O loves them all.

Stop fawning over LSU's win over Florida. Fing FOUR interceptions. FFS.

If a team has four turnovers much less -4 TO margin, then they are 95% going to lose of not greater.

Winning cures all and there was not enough winning

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Stop fawning over LSU's win over Florida. Fing FOUR interceptions. FFS.

If a team has four turnovers much less -4 TO margin, then they are 95% going to lose of not greater.

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Not only that, Florida is about collapse to 7-5.

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chasing women after he got divorced 6 weeks after he won the natty. He was apparently more focused on chasing women than the football team.

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I believe that and have seen all the bimbo eruptions/rumors that get posted on a certain other site. I haven't seen anything about problems regarding Trump or BLM.

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It's all in the athletic article they did on him after it came out that he wouldn't come back next year. He said "I love trump" on Fox News and it rubbed some players the wrong way. Also, he didn't take part in the players George Floyd marches. He just didn't give a crap about any of the race relations stuff going on at the time.

Again, this is all in the athletic article that came out a few days ago. Really good read.

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He didn't listen to the majority black team about issues they were dealing with. Things all started going downhill once players realized he didn't care about them. He was overheard saying he didn't care and LSU could fire him if they wanted. Safe to say any objective person could tell he was a horrible person

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So if you don't bend the knee to BLM, you're a horrible person?

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Since when is listening to your players and their concerns 'bending the knee'? Geez

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Okay. If you listen to BLM complaints but disagree/disbelieve/don't care, does that make you a "horrible person"?

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It depends.

Yes, if you disagree that Black Lives Matter in this country and they should be shot by police for offenses white people are regularly not shot for like "sitting on your couch in your home" or "being in your apartment" or "having a licensed firearm in your car" you are a horrible person.

If you disbelieve that Black People are treated differently from the white people in this country you need to listen again but you aren't a horrible person… yet.

If you some how disagree that black peoples are shot by police for things that white people are not regularly shot for(see same list above) then you need to look at the statistics but you are not a horrible person…. Yet.

If you think Defunding the police is stupid then you are correct and also focusing on a vocal minority of the BLM movement but not a horrible person.

If you are a college football coach, and 80% of your players are black and you praise a president who called one of your players cultural icons a son of a ***** several years after he was out of the league and then caused all kinds of controversy about it for no reason and sent the Vice President to a game for the sole purpose of Leaving then you didn't read the room but not a horrible person.

All of that said, i don't think that's why LSU is mediocre. They were mediocre when O came on and are mediocre after they lost an amazing amount of talent when they won it all.

Players are mercenaries and most don't care if LSU and Coach O is their best shot at the League they are ok with it. Student Government , Dean of students etc those guys will object and might get you fired if you have the kind of political leanings they find unacceptable especially if you are unapologetically chasing tail

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So if you don't bend the knee to BLM, you're a horrible person?

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No, I'd say divorcing your wife of 20+ years 6 weeks after winning the national championship so you could use your increased state-wide fame to chase 20 year-old tail all over town might be an indicator you're not a great guy.

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Thanks. While you were replying I googled and read the SI story that goes over much of the same topics:
https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/17/ed-orgeron-lsu-football-inside-program-collapse

I'll agree that the marital/gf issue is of poor character or at least poor choices. But the assertion being floated is that he's a "horrible person" apparently for not marching for (felonious woman abuser and drug addict) George Floyd along his IMHO misguided athletes.

A good coach would instruct his young men of the error of their ways or at least keep silent on the issue if he didn't believe in their cause. Not giving into the mob mentality, even it is the "80%" popular position, doesn't make him a horrible person. Not the least of which is because it was a divisive issue unrelated to the sport with the potential to alienate the "20%".

ETA- reading the SI article, it looks like his racial crime was saying Trump was doing a good job. What a horrible person.

"Two things make players quit," says one source, "all the hitting and the drug-testing."

LOL

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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They should hire Gregg Popovich.

But how many shoes did they throw?

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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That's where it started. They also weren't too happy that O praised Trump when their team was welcomed to the White House after winning the title.

Also, as another poster has said, practices were different with O being distracted by his myriad of girlfriends showing up with their kids. He had lost focus.

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Links or evidence for any of this???

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There is a tweet above where a local reporter tweeted this. The entire story is on the piece the athletic did after LSU announced they were letting him go. It goes into detail about him chasing women after he got divorced 6 weeks after he won the natty. He was apparently more focused on chasing women than the football team.

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There is the truth. And, there are people who get paid to tell stories.

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He didn't listen to the majority black team about issues they were dealing with. Things all started going downhill once players realized he didn't care about them. He was overheard saying he didn't care and LSU could fire him if they wanted. Safe to say any objective person could tell he was a horrible person

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No, I'd say divorcing your wife of 20+ years 6 weeks after winning the national championship so you could use your increased state-wide fame to chase 20 year-old tail all over town might be an indicator you're not a great guy.

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I know quite a few folks connected in the Baton Rouge scene and it's apparently pretty well known that his ex wife cheated on him. That's why he divorced her. He was apparently pretty loyal to her and I can imagine pretty devastated when he found out the news. Imagine winning a Natty then finding out your wife cheated on you.

After the divorce it sounds like he just went AWOL chasing women around Baton Rouge and didnt put his job as his main priority. Heck I don't blame him lol.

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With regards to Orgeron's personal life bleeding into his coaching life, sources also tell @WBRZ that there were multiple practices where "girlfriends" would be in attendance at prax and would "interfere". To the degree of children of the women taking part in drills with team.

— Matt Trent (@MCTrent23) October 17, 2021

Trent is a local TV reporter in Baton Rouge.

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As easy as it is to pile on Orgeron. This is baloney. If they were winning more this would be a heartwarming story about how Orgeron loves kids and not a dereliction of duty story.

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True, but how many people can go through a divorce, start dating around and letting your girlfriends and their kids interrupt practices and still manage to win? Pretty few, I'd think. I like Coach O - he fits right in at LSU. He just hit a rough patch in his life and it imploded on him. He's not the first and he won't be the last. Very few get paid $17M to just go away when it happens, though....

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I'll agree that the marital/gf issue is of poor character or at least poor choices. But the assertion being floated is that he's a "horrible person" apparently for not marching for (felonious woman abuser and drug addict) George Floyd along his IMHO misguided athletes.

A good coach would instruct his young men of the error of their ways or at least keep silent on the issue if he didn't believe in their cause. Not giving into the mob mentality, even it is the "80%" popular position, doesn't make him a horrible person. Not the least of which is because it was a divisive issue unrelated to the sport with the potential to alienate the "20%".

ETA- reading the SI article, it looks like his racial crime was saying Trump was doing a good job. What a horrible person.

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You are aware that Floyd had turned his life around, was a Christian and was volunteering in programs to help get kids out of gangs?

I guess if someone does something bad there's no opportunity for them to redeem their life?

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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Haha. Popovich is a clown. People called him a great coach when he had David Robinson and Tim Duncan, two of the greatest basketball players ever, to help coach the team. He even admitted that all he did was say "get the ball to Timmy". After Timmy, bye bye Pop.

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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And he supported Trump which was a big no-no.

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It means coach O didn't roll over during all the BLM stuff last year. He didn't and that's what it is code for.

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Give me a break…no one should feel sorry for him. And no one cares who he votes for.

Jimbo and many other college coaches threaded the needle and handled the situation great. He didn't and lost his team.

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I'll agree that the marital/gf issue is of poor character or at least poor choices. But the assertion being floated is that he's a "horrible person" apparently for not marching for (felonious woman abuser and drug addict) George Floyd along his IMHO misguided athletes.

A good coach would instruct his young men of the error of their ways or at least keep silent on the issue if he didn't believe in their cause. Not giving into the mob mentality, even it is the "80%" popular position, doesn't make him a horrible person. Not the least of which is because it was a divisive issue unrelated to the sport with the potential to alienate the "20%".

ETA- reading the SI article, it looks like his racial crime was saying Trump was doing a good job. What a horrible person.

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You are aware that Floyd had turned his life around, was a Christian and was volunteering in programs to help get kids out of gangs?

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He was also high on fetanyl and meth the Day he died, and resisting arrest. Doesn't sound like he turned his life around that much.

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I'll agree that the marital/gf issue is of poor character or at least poor choices. But the assertion being floated is that he's a "horrible person" apparently for not marching for (felonious woman abuser and drug addict) George Floyd along his IMHO misguided athletes.

A good coach would instruct his young men of the error of their ways or at least keep silent on the issue if he didn't believe in their cause. Not giving into the mob mentality, even it is the "80%" popular position, doesn't make him a horrible person. Not the least of which is because it was a divisive issue unrelated to the sport with the potential to alienate the "20%".

ETA- reading the SI article, it looks like his racial crime was saying Trump was doing a good job. What a horrible person.

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You are aware that Floyd had turned his life around, was a Christian and was volunteering in programs to help get kids out of gangs?

I guess if someone does something bad there's no opportunity for them to redeem their life?

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He was also high on fetanyl and meth the Day he died, and resisting arrest. Doesn't sound like he turned his life around that much.

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It's well documented that he had relapses with drug use….you ever know anyone that battled substance abuse?

And having those 'in his system' doesn't necessary mean he was 'high' on them at the time.


That doesn't change the fact he was working on turning his life around and trying to get kids out of gangs.

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I'll agree that the marital/gf issue is of poor character or at least poor choices. But the assertion being floated is that he's a "horrible person" apparently for not marching for (felonious woman abuser and drug addict) George Floyd along his IMHO misguided athletes.

A good coach would instruct his young men of the error of their ways or at least keep silent on the issue if he didn't believe in their cause. Not giving into the mob mentality, even it is the "80%" popular position, doesn't make him a horrible person. Not the least of which is because it was a divisive issue unrelated to the sport with the potential to alienate the "20%".

ETA- reading the SI article, it looks like his racial crime was saying Trump was doing a good job. What a horrible person.

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You are aware that Floyd had turned his life around, was a Christian and was volunteering in programs to help get kids out of gangs?

I guess if someone does something bad there's no opportunity for them to redeem their life?

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He was also high on fetanyl and meth the Day he died, and resisting arrest. Doesn't sound like he turned his life around that much.

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It's well documented that he had relapses with drug use….you ever know anyone that battled substance abuse?

And having those 'in his system' doesn't necessary mean he was 'high' on them at the time.


That doesn't change the fact he was working on turning his life around and trying to get kids out of gangs.

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Have you seen the cop video? The guy was obviously high out of his mind acting irrationally. It took All 3 cops to try and restrain him. He was not sober.

Lol at the double standard.

George Floyd, lengthy criminal history including pointing a gun at an in utero child during a home invasion, supposedly found God and community outreach, then passed counterfeit money prompting police call, found riding with his dealer, takes enough drugs during his arrest to euthanize a horse, resists arrest. Is a good guy.

Coach O, gives modest praise to President of the United States. Horrible person.

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Lol at the double standard.

George Floyd, lengthy criminal history including pointing a gun at an in utero child during a home invasion, supposedly found God and community outreach, then passed counterfeit money prompting police call, found riding with his dealer, takes enough drugs during his arrest to euthanize a horse, resists arrest. Is a good guy.

Coach O, gives modest praise to President of the United States. Horrible person.

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YOu think lying helps your case?



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/16/fact-check-fentanyl-george-floyd-not-enough-to-cause-death/7239448002/

And no one is comparing coach o to George Floyd. Nice straw man though

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Lol at the double standard.

George Floyd, lengthy criminal history including pointing a gun at an in utero child during a home invasion, supposedly found God and community outreach, then passed counterfeit money prompting police call, found riding with his dealer, takes enough drugs during his arrest to euthanize a horse, resists arrest. Is a good guy.

Coach O, gives modest praise to President of the United States. Horrible person.

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Amen Make no mistake George Floyd WAS NOT someone your children should aspire to be.

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Lol at the double standard.

George Floyd, lengthy criminal history including pointing a gun at an in utero child during a home invasion, supposedly found God and community outreach, then passed counterfeit money prompting police call, found riding with his dealer, takes enough drugs during his arrest to euthanize a horse, resists arrest. Is a good guy.

Coach O, gives modest praise to President of the United States. Horrible person.

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YOu think lying helps your case?



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/16/fact-check-fentanyl-george-floyd-not-enough-to-cause-death/7239448002/

And no one is comparing coach o to George Floyd. Nice straw man though

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USA Today is hardly a valid fact checking source. Try the autopsy report. It says there was sufficient amounts in there to make death by the drug at least a possibility. Obviously the statement above is hyperbole.

"Not enough to cause death" is, in fact, a lie, according to the autopsy.

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Fentanyl 11. He said, "that's pretty high." This level of fentanyl can cause pulmonary edema. Mr. Floyd's lungs were 2-3x their normal weight at autopsy. That is fatal level offentanyl under normal circumstances. Norfentanyl - 5.6 metabolite of

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https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/ExhibitMtD08282020.pdf

All this crap being about O supporting Trump (which a lot of people do) and your BLM marxist lovers and people complaining
about him chasing tail and claiming character flaws ALL miss the point.
LSU DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ANY OF THAT CRAP IF HE WERE STILL WINNING SEC TITLES AND NATL CHAMP CONTENDERS.
That is how it works in Louisiana. And quite frankly how it works at every SEC school.
As long as you WIN.
We wouldn't be hearing or care of any of this if O was still winning.

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Didn't realize the team was snubbed a traditional meal at the White House. No wonder they turned on O.

https://www.225batonrouge.com/food-drink/no-meal-lsu-tigers-visit-white-house-plenty-memorable

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Snubbed? "Traditional" meal? gimme a break,you.

First. World. Problems. The leader of the free world spent two hours with them in the Oval Office taking individual photos.

Poor souls had to suffer through a catered meal at the hotel. Maybe we can hold a carwash for them.

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Lol at the double standard.

George Floyd, lengthy criminal history including pointing a gun at an in utero child during a home invasion, supposedly found God and community outreach, then passed counterfeit money prompting police call, found riding with his dealer, takes enough drugs during his arrest to euthanize a horse, resists arrest. Is a good guy.

Coach O, gives modest praise to President of the United States. Horrible person.

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YOu think lying helps your case?



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/16/fact-check-fentanyl-george-floyd-not-enough-to-cause-death/7239448002/

And no one is comparing coach o to George Floyd. Nice straw man though

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Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

St George?

Coach O will go out a hero, and get paid, big time.
He'll work the Tiger Athletic Foundation circuit for 20 years and then drift away.