There will be no petition, it's called junk mail.

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wow, this is moving fast

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It's going to happen

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That it is. You don't petition to get egg on your face.


Well, Ags it's been a good whole ten years.

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This reaction is exactly why it was reported right before A&Ms press conference. Sounds and looks like it's working. Big picture is SEC let it happen during A&M's press conference which tells you what that relationship is all about. Combine that with A&M's relationship with ESPN. If it does happen and if A&M stays in the conference, it could be tough for a school with no allies. I'd begin looking for alternatives bow tie prez.

That's ridiculous.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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W said:

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wow, this is moving fast

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It's going to happen

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it looks that way.

also looks like A&M and Bjork may have been blind-sided --- the league office did not provide a courtesy heads-up

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Surely not. What worries me is that Bjork publicly speaks against it but behind the scenes advocates for it because he wants the extra money. He has no loyalty to A&M. He wasn't around when we had to put up with tu's **** year after year. "So let's get them in, guys, but A&M has to vote know."

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There is no extra money with either tu or OU in the conference.

tu brings nothing in terms of revenue or tv sets - the entire state is already accounted for in the SEC network as it is. OU brings about a half million sets to the table, which isn't much. Bringing both teams in will be a pay cut for everybody else in the conference.

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BAS all over the place.

SEC is a horrible fit for Texas and OU.

That play offense only style of football has shown to be weak AF against SEC defenses.

They bring nothing to the table that the SEC wants and the longhorn network is an anchor around the sips' neck the SEC wants no part of.

The SEC iS about the SEC.

And tu is all about tu.

This is a push to get OU and the sips a better deal out of the BDF.

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100% agree!

This was inevitable as soon as the cable TV model and the NCAA system failed.

You think the SEC office leaked the story to Brent Zwenerman and told him he could only publish the story during A&M's media day?

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AGinHI said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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W said:

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wow, this is moving fast

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It's going to happen

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That it is. You don't petition to get egg on your face.


Well, Ags it's been a good whole ten years.

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This reaction is exactly why it was reported right before A&Ms press conference. Sounds and looks like it's working. Big picture is SEC let it happen during A&M's press conference which tells you what that relationship is all about. Combine that with A&M's relationship with ESPN. If it does happen and if A&M stays in the conference, it could be tough for a school with no allies. I'd begin looking for alternatives bow tie prez.

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This post is perfectly exemplifies the arrogance of what drove us away to greener pastures 10 years ago. Their fans hear one story about how they asked to be let in, and the fan base automatically assumes they are automatically getting in and everyone in the conference they know nothing about likes them more than us.

Get bent.

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fieldtrailer said:

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AGinHI said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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wow, this is moving fast

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It's going to happen

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That it is. You don't petition to get egg on your face.


Well, Ags it's been a good whole ten years.

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This reaction is exactly why it was reported right before A&Ms press conference. Sounds and looks like it's working. Big picture is SEC let it happen during A&M's press conference which tells you what that relationship is all about. Combine that with A&M's relationship with ESPN. If it does happen and if A&M stays in the conference, it could be tough for a school with no allies. I'd begin looking for alternatives bow tie prez.

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This post is perfectly exemplifies the arrogance of what drove us away to greener pastures 10 years ago. Their fans hear one story about how they asked to be let in, and the fan base automatically assumes they are automatically getting in and everyone in the conference they know nothing about likes them more than us.

Get bent.

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I agree this whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Nobody knows anything. All we have is a pretty ambiguous story but all of a sudden it's a done deal, all the presidents are money grubbers, and the SEC hates us.

I guess bowtie is going to have to rename his book the 10 year decision.

I feel like everyone is forgetting that 11/14 teams have to approve this. A&M, Arkansas, and LSU will most likely say no, and then it only takes one more team to reject.

Best possible scenario (and this is completely impossible but its fun to entertain) is that we accept OU and reject tu.

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I feel like everyone is forgetting that 11/14 teams have to approve this. A&M, Arkansas, and LSU will most likely say no, and then it only takes one more team to reject.

Best possible scenario (and this is completely impossible but its fun to entertain) is that we accept OU and reject tu.

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I believe people don't even have to say no. They can simply abstain and it works the same way.

There won't be any no votes. This isn't about football to these schools, it's all about money. Presidents and regents will not turn down a big pay day.

this also about Sankey "leaving his mark" on the league. Cementing his legacy, etc..,

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There won't be any no votes. This isn't about football to these schools, it's all about money. Presidents and regents will not turn down a big pay day.

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Okay, I'm willing to listen to this argument.

What does adding sip and land thieves add?

TV? No. Already have all of Texas market. Oklahoma market is not exactly a broadcasting goldmine.

Recruiting? No.

$? I'd be interested to see what vast wealth sip and sooner could bring. They are in a conference that makes joke $ compared to us. So no.

Equal partners? Hahahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahhhahhaha! From the moment sip selfish arrogance crawled out if its stupid mind, they have never done anything without trying to game everything in their favor and exert power over everyone else, who they see as inferior. This is like making an alliance with Iran and hoping they are straight shooters and above board all they way. Scorpion and frog. Its their nature to be corrupt and selfishly evil.

There is nothing sip or sooner brings that we don't already have.

Why dilute a 15 piece pie to 17 pieces just to make 2 inferior schools feel good about themselves?

They are two blue bloods and major football brands. They bring plenty of new eyes to the conference. You are thinking about the old days with TV sets. Everything is streamed now all over the country. Also, this would make the SEC the first super conference with 16 teams so a new tv deal will be made. I would also bet the LHN deal goes away and that money will go towards the new deal as well. I hope it doesn't happen but presidents and regents will be all over this for the almighty dollar.

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They are two blue bloods and major football brands. They bring plenty of new eyes to the conference. You are thinking about the old days with TV sets. Everything is streamed now all over the country. Also, this would make the SEC the first super conference with 16 teams so a new tv deal will be made. I would also bet the LHN deal goes away and that money will go towards the new deal as well. I hope it doesn't happen but presidents and regents will be all over this for the almighty dollar.

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Sure about that?

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According to the 12th Man Foundation, Texas A&M has played in five regular-season conference football games in the SEC that were watched by more than seven million viewers. Over that same span, the Big 12 had one game total that drew that many fans.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31845340/how-texas-sec-college-football-top-conference-formed-perfect-fit

This is where Bjork earns his pay and proves he was the right choice. The SEC has attracted teams to the conference over the years by offering the "1 state school" advantage. South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky. You get their votes by mentioning Clemson, Florida state, Georgia tech, Louisville

Then you look at schools that have recruited our state the past 10 years. Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, maybe bama. This will harm their recruiting and that's how you try to get their buy in. Maybe even sell the bottom teams they're making their schedules that much more difficult to try to climb up.

The obvious issue is money. Some of these schools may vote yes simply for the bigger payday.

Interesting times

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They are two blue bloods and major football brands. They bring plenty of new eyes to the conference. You are thinking about the old days with TV sets. Everything is streamed now all over the country. Also, this would make the SEC the first super conference with 16 teams so a new tv deal will be made. I would also bet the LHN deal goes away and that money will go towards the new deal as well. I hope it doesn't happen but presidents and regents will be all over this for the almighty dollar.

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Sure about that?

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According to the 12th Man Foundation, Texas A&M has played in five regular-season conference football games in the SEC that were watched by more than seven million viewers. Over that same span, the Big 12 had one game total that drew that many fans.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31845340/how-texas-sec-college-football-top-conference-formed-perfect-fit

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This tu's national draw is overrated. Look at how popular the lhn is. If you have a good team people tend to watch, but if you have a mediocre one the casual interest goes way down. People mistake a period for when they were a legit national power as being a legit national draw all the time.

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Jbob04 said:

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They are two blue bloods and major football brands. They bring plenty of new eyes to the conference. You are thinking about the old days with TV sets. Everything is streamed now all over the country. Also, this would make the SEC the first super conference with 16 teams so a new tv deal will be made. I would also bet the LHN deal goes away and that money will go towards the new deal as well. I hope it doesn't happen but presidents and regents will be all over this for the almighty dollar.

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Sure about that?

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According to the 12th Man Foundation, Texas A&M has played in five regular-season conference football games in the SEC that were watched by more than seven million viewers. Over that same span, the Big 12 had one game total that drew that many fans.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31845340/how-texas-sec-college-football-top-conference-formed-perfect-fit

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This tu's national draw is overrated. Look at how popular the lhn is. If you have a good team people tend to watch, but if you have a mediocre one the casual interest goes way down. People mistake a period for when they were a legit national power as being a legit national draw all the time.

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Yes.

Those days are gone.

No one wants to watch the lhn. Its become its own joke. Even among sips.

It is a useful albatross around espn's neck that at least keeps tu on a leash.

Sips have built almost their whole self image on the 70s and they are the only ones who believe it today.