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t.u. Donors Threatened to Pull Donations over "Eyes of Texas"

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Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
Normally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.

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Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.
The Dirty Sock
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I bet if we inception plant seeds we could make the long horn symbol racist. We could bring that whole place to the ground.
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F tu.
SunrayAg
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The orange uterus obviously symbolizes the subservience of women...
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They can't do an open records request on Texags can they? It's hard to enjoy the enemy's suffering if you are whistling past the cemetery.
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The anti-cancel culture cancelling on the cancel culture.
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SunrayAg said:

The orange uterus obviously symbolizes the subservience of women...

...But would sawing 'em off represent a tubal ligation?!
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agnerd said:

Texas Tribune Article
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Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
Normally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.

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Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.

This is spin...I know of a lot of dudes that have made it clear how they and their money feel about Sully...I expect it could be short term, how much though?
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SinKiller said:

agnerd said:

Texas Tribune Article
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Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
Normally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.

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Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.

This is spin...I know of a lot of dudes that have made it clear how they and their money feel about Sully...I expect it could be short term, how much though?
We may be an open records request away from finding out.
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just erase history already, cuz that will help
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So glad our stadium is not named after a guy who said recently - "All these schools that are winning, even in the pros, have black quarterbacks."

TU donors should have pulled donations after that comment?
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The Dirty Sock said:

I bet if we inception plant seeds we could make the long horn symbol racist. We could bring that whole place to the ground.


All it takes is some ex post facto reasoning and bam! you can give anything a racist history and connotation.
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rootube said:

SinKiller said:

agnerd said:

Texas Tribune Article
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Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
Normally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.

edit to quote this part:
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Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.

This is spin...I know of a lot of dudes that have made it clear how they and their money feel about Sully...I expect it could be short term, how much though?
We may be an open records request away from finding out.
Something like a billion plus out there in estate donations.
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The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.

A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.

Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.
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Money > Racism?
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mortal said:

The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.

A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.

Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.
I wonder how many that post on here have been back to A&M in the last 10 years. I know for alot the answer is that they have. For those that haven't, you'd be real surprised at the new A&M. I don't get the feeling that the sense of loyalty is near where it used to be.
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Ah yes, the eyes of Texas. The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is.
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SinKiller said:


I wonder how many that post on here have been back to A&M in the last 10 years. I know for alot the answer is that they have. For those that haven't, you'd be real surprised at the new A&M. I don't get the feeling that the sense of loyalty is near where it used to be.
I would agree but I think it is partly due to the way the school views the student theses days.

The message to the student seems to be: "You are just a revenue stream"

The message back to TAMU then is: "You are just a means to get a degree"
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The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is

All it makes me think of is railroads
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Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it. George Orwell (writer and critic, 1903-1950, England)
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SinKiller said:

mortal said:

The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.

A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.

Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.
I wonder how many that post on here have been back to A&M in the last 10 years. I know for alot the answer is that they have. For those that haven't, you'd be real surprised at the new A&M. I don't get the feeling that the sense of loyalty is near where it used to be.

On the contrary, I'm encouraged by the young Aggies I have met over the years and believe our university is in good hands.
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RockOn said:

The anti-cancel culture cancelling on the cancel culture.
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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Southlake said:

Money > Racism?


Exactly! If keeping the statue is evil and removing it is virtuous, then the effect its removal has on donations should be of no consequence. Right?

Everyone's so full of ****
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Two tu associates in my practice are each $1MM+ donors, and they are rock-solid on keeping the railroad song. They and others, they claim, won't back down, and will quit writing checks and donating real estate if the SJWs win and the song is scrapped. Big $$$ speaks with a loud and commanding voice. The issue is coming to a head; let's see what happens.
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Southlake said:

Money > Racism?


So your assertion is that the statue of Sul Ross and/or "The Eyes of Texas" are undeniably racist?

If so you're on quite shaky ground from a factual standpoint.
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ChrisTAMU said:

Ah yes, the eyes of Texas. The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is.
I just think it sounds like Hell....
For real though, it's good for us that the player (and hopefully recruits) view the song the way they do. Any extra advantage for us is a plus. The Sully statue hasn't caused near the amount of negative press coverage as the 'Eyes' controversy.
If your username is jickyjack1, Shooter McGavin, proudaggie02, txrancher69, or Rick Deckard... don't bother responding. You won't offer anything insightful.
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Donors still money whip the sjw recruits into town tho
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mortal said:

The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.

A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.

Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.


Thank you for the quick history lesson. As class of '83, are you saying I'm new army? If so, I think the report you are referring to is perhaps making some broad assumptions that might be flawed.

Just a quick history lesson, there was a bonfire that was built and set ablaze on our campus until the end of the previous century.

Given the age and potential economic success of the former students from your history lesson combined with the sampling of former students from my history lesson, I'm going to say that TAMU officials should not mess with Sully.
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Southlake said:

Money > Racism?
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It will be entertaining when the show clowns of the southwest refuse to play it...

Do they play rice any time soon? That would have awesome potential!!!
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
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*If* we ever play tu ever again in a home and home series (and I not pushing for that) then we should definitely make a Kyle Field Advertisement or pitch to the tune of "I've been working on the railroad" and play it loud and clear for them to hear during the game.
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Meximan said:

SunrayAg said:

The orange uterus obviously symbolizes the subservience of women...

...But would sawing 'em off represent a tubal ligation?!


Nah, more like a hysterectomy.
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As much as I enjoyed singing this song at Memorial growing up..

I would say what if the roles were reversed? Goes for certain statues as well.

Being honest, I might have a different take on things.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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dixichkn said:

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The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is

All it makes me think of is railroads
Texas jump.....?
NO AMNESTY!

in order for democrats, liberals, progressives et al to continue their illogical belief systems they have to pretend not to know a lot of things; by pretending "not to know" there is no guilt, no actual connection to conscience. Denial of truth allows easier trespass.
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