Southlake said:
Money > Racism?
In today's twisted neo-Marxist cancel culture world, Money = Racism.
At least if you are white and have money, you must be racist.
t.u. Donors Threatened to Pull Donations over "Eyes of Texas"
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In today's twisted neo-Marxist cancel culture world, Money = Racism.
At least if you are white and have money, you must be racist.
The eyes of Texas... something.
I've been working on the railroad.
Gabrielsomething.
Dumb.
Texas Bites! Stupid fight song.
Devils horns symbol. Satanic.
Keep it up.
Cut off the donations.
Send more money to Idiot Joe and his people.
I've been working on the railroad.
Gabrielsomething.
Dumb.
Texas Bites! Stupid fight song.
Devils horns symbol. Satanic.
Keep it up.
Cut off the donations.
Send more money to Idiot Joe and his people.
Good for them and hopefully more of our alumni do the same!
Hey Nav said:
Devils horns symbol. Satanic.
Keep it up.
--I stopped being a poor just so I could post that. Blast you, BL! Blast you all!!!
Do you not think they "made a stand" first by refusing to sing the school song?
There are lots of things to be upset over re: racism. This ain't one of em.
Ps Dr. Seuss just got cancelled.
There are lots of things to be upset over re: racism. This ain't one of em.
Ps Dr. Seuss just got cancelled.
levypantsEOY said:
Do you not think they "made a stand" first by refusing to sing the school song?
There are lots of things to be upset over re: racism. This ain't one of em.
Ps Dr. Seuss just got cancelled.
I think if you didn't really care in the first place, and are now being threatened because of the more vocal actions of your teammates, then that's has to suck. The more vocal people on all of these teams are usually the ones going to the NFL anyways, so it's only the less recognized members on the team that these threats will possibly affect, regardless of what they think about it.
You nailed it Levypants. Ignorant apologists like Southlake and Champ encourage and support the cancel culture. Someone (e.g. Levy and/or Southlake) told the black players that the song was racist so they quickly started goose stepping to the latest cause. When they're offensive behavior was successfully challenged they started complaining that all they wanted to do was play football and not get forced into a political fight. What a crock. They are afraid to stand up for their country, state and team and afraid to stand up to the likes of bullies like BLM. These people need to be challenged and defeated and if the donors can accomplish that and put an end to this mindless hate then I applaud them. Or as they would say "hook'em!" Hook'em right in their sorry butts. And if your gentle sensitivities are still so offended by your school song that you can't play or perform then turn in your uniform and it will be incredibly easy to find an eager student ready and willing to perform for the school.
I think you are pretty ignorant, if that's what you got out of my post. I'm not being an apologist for anything. I'm saying that the people that are most vocal about all this are not going to be scared by alumni threatening job security. They are typically the ones going to the NFL, so they will not care.
I think the song being perceived as racist is incredibly dumb.
I think the song being perceived as racist is incredibly dumb.
If you've ever seen the musical "The music man" ... well it's about a sjw in the 1910's.
A con artist, Harold Hill, sweeps into town and convinces ladies in the community in the song "Ya Got Trouble...right here in River City" that the new local pool hall will be the downfall of the local boys and girls using logic about as weighty as modern sjw's with the railroad song.
"Right here in River City.
Trouble with a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool!"
Using this logic Harold Hill convinces the town to spend a whole lot of money on band equipment to divert their kids attention from the evil lurking all around him.
100 years later this same tactic is being used to con people into change.
A con artist, Harold Hill, sweeps into town and convinces ladies in the community in the song "Ya Got Trouble...right here in River City" that the new local pool hall will be the downfall of the local boys and girls using logic about as weighty as modern sjw's with the railroad song.
"Right here in River City.
Trouble with a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool!"
Using this logic Harold Hill convinces the town to spend a whole lot of money on band equipment to divert their kids attention from the evil lurking all around him.
100 years later this same tactic is being used to con people into change.
I'm not talking about whether they're good or not, hell, my daughter was class of '20. I'm saying that they're not popping out a bunch of red ass Ags...rootube said:SinKiller said:I wonder how many that post on here have been back to A&M in the last 10 years. I know for alot the answer is that they have. For those that haven't, you'd be real surprised at the new A&M. I don't get the feeling that the sense of loyalty is near where it used to be.mortal said:
The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.
A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.
Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.
On the contrary, I'm encouraged by the young Aggies I have met over the years and believe our university is in good hands.
Apples and oranges. Don't pull us into your issues sipagnerd said:
Texas Tribune ArticleNormally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.Quote:
Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
edit to quote this part:Quote:
Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.
Apples and apples. It's the exact same thing. It's happening everywhere.Round Rock AG said:Apples and oranges. Don't pull us into your issues sipagnerd said:
Texas Tribune ArticleNormally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.Quote:
Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
edit to quote this part:Quote:
Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.
Hope they do ditch the stupid song and they go through with their threats of pulling funds. I don't know whether it is racist, but some d-bag doing his hand sign while yelling his stupid song is annoying AF. If it gives the self-proclaimed "Joneses" less money, too, well hell, sign me up.
F them and their stupid song.
F them and their stupid song.
Cant wait to hear what stunt their band pulls to come across as hyper woke...because it is their school and not the old alumni's
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
Frankly, it isn't.SinKiller said:I wonder how many that post on here have been back to A&M in the last 10 years. I know for alot the answer is that they have. For those that haven't, you'd be real surprised at the new A&M. I don't get the feeling that the sense of loyalty is near where it used to be.mortal said:
The study done by A&M about the financial impact of removing the statue of LSR is probably accurate.
A quick history lesson... The school enrollment went through an explosion from the early 1970's. The money gathering groups (Former Students, Athletics, Foundation) all realize the new army folks far outnumber the Sul Ross members. These campus entities have written off the older classes (and their money) and now focus on younger Aggies who may not have strong opinions about the statue.
Sips are going to have a tougher job. The song is important to a broader range of grads and age groups.
2 major reasons for that IMO:
1. Top 10% rule significantly changed the general makeup of the student population. Combine that with smaller changes like eliminating legacy points, increasing the enrollment and Vision 2020 and you have a student body that isn't anywhere close to the same type of student body that had existed prior to about 2000-ish.
2. Death of Bonfire, and the not even subtle stance by the school admin of not wanting it back on campus. Bonfire was the glue that held the various components of the student body together IMO - it was more than just stacking and burning logs. Without it, and especially how it happened, fundamentally changed campus. There is no other event or organization that can even compete in bringing campus together the way it did, and as a result there isn't nearly the comraderie and campus/dorm/outfit pride and loyalty that there was 20 years ago.
Not even close.levypantsEOY said:Apples and apples. It's the exact same thing. It's happening everywhere.Round Rock AG said:Apples and oranges. Don't pull us into your issues sipagnerd said:
Texas Tribune ArticleNormally, I'd post in old rivalries, but this seems very applicable to what happened here last year.Quote:
Emails obtained by The Texas Tribune show alumni and donors threatened to stop supporting the university financially and demanded that the university president take a stronger stance supporting "The Eyes of Texas."
edit to quote this part:Quote:
Recently, Texas A&M University examined what the impact on donations could be if they removed a campus statue of a former university president and Confederate general, Lawrence Sullivan Ross. The university has been embroiled in similarly tense debate over the monument there. According to the report, interviews with fundraising groups at Texas A&M found that the university could expect a short-term drop, but long-term fundraising would likely remain unaffected.
Regardless of if you believe the dumb song it's racist or not, boosters threatening players is childish and totally inappropriate (if those reports are true). The most hilarious part of the whole thing is that the boosters are just pouting because the football team stinks. I will pretty much guarantee there would be peace offerings in both directions if the horns were competing in championships.
Good for them, and I hope there are a whole lot more like them that will follow through if it comes to that.sharpdressedman said:
Two tu associates in my practice are each $1MM+ donors, and they are rock-solid on keeping the railroad song. They and others, they claim, won't back down, and will quit writing checks and donating real estate if the SJWs win and the song is scrapped. Big $$$ speaks with a loud and commanding voice. The issue is coming to a head; let's see what happens.
Even though it is tu, and we love to see them mired in misery, this is far more than getting curb stomped by Maryland on the football field - this is a major social issue that extends far beyond baby sht brown colors and female anatomy insignias. I hope the old guard Texas Exes hold fast and some of this stupid revisionist history erasing comes to a screeching halt.
Money talks, and if that is what it takes, that is what it takes.
schmellba99 said:Good for them, and I hope there are a whole lot more like them that will follow through if it comes to that.sharpdressedman said:
Two tu associates in my practice are each $1MM+ donors, and they are rock-solid on keeping the railroad song. They and others, they claim, won't back down, and will quit writing checks and donating real estate if the SJWs win and the song is scrapped. Big $$$ speaks with a loud and commanding voice. The issue is coming to a head; let's see what happens.
Even though it is tu, and we love to see them mired in misery, this is far more than getting curb stomped by Maryland on the football field - this is a major social issue that extends far beyond baby sht brown colors and female anatomy insignias. I hope the old guard Texas Exes hold fast and some of this stupid revisionist history erasing comes to a screeching halt.
Money talks, and if that is what it takes, that is what it takes.
This is pretty much my thought as well.
Why is this coming back up now? I thought they put this issue to bed last year.
Yep. This is a much, much, much bigger issue than an old rivalry. This new mentality of erasing history is dangerous, and I'm glad to see people starting to push back against it in a meaningful way.
levypantsEOY said:
Why is this coming back up now? I thought they put this issue to bed last year.
That school is in the middle of a SF-wannabe city...the very things that have made it appealing to hyper lefty types were bound to clash with the more conservative aspects of their fan base (those that probably never go to Austin except for a game)
This is only going to accelerate and enlarge the already irreconcilable chasm between left and right in this country and to a lesser degree (for now) state...
It will be interesting how the sips deal with this come football season...
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
Only people I hate worse than sips are blm/sjw types. Queue Venn diagram.
Well the Chinese built those and were practically slave labor so....dixichkn said:Quote:
The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is
All it makes me think of is railroads
Wow some of those emails are just full blown racist but it's not surprising coming from an institution with such a rich history of racism.
Nm
Not sure if a troll but will bite anyway. Let's not throw stones in glass houses, shall we?TxAG#2011 said:
Wow some of those emails are just full blown racist but it's not surprising coming from an institution with such a rich history of racism.
I support them fully. Good for them.
Weed out the t-shirt fans and the ultra left wing, there are some really good people there. Sure, they made a wrong choice at some point in their lives, but many have.
As for the "Eyes of Texas", that's a fight they need to win, as much as I hate to hear them strike the tune.
Weed out the t-shirt fans and the ultra left wing, there are some really good people there. Sure, they made a wrong choice at some point in their lives, but many have.
As for the "Eyes of Texas", that's a fight they need to win, as much as I hate to hear them strike the tune.
It will take at least a generation to die off before any meaningful change can be made. Seeds are being planted now. None of us will be around to see the fruit of this tree.
The fact that they are even discussing this speaks volumes about how far we have come as a nation. The fact that so many cannot see its racist origin and are willing to do something about it - speaks just as loud about how far we have to go as a nation.
The fact that they are even discussing this speaks volumes about how far we have come as a nation. The fact that so many cannot see its racist origin and are willing to do something about it - speaks just as loud about how far we have to go as a nation.
What I don't understand is if they hate the school, and it's song and racist history, then why go there? So many people now are going headlong right into the controversy and then demanding it be altered to fit their needs. If you don't like the school song, go to North Texas. If you are a girl and angry that there isn't a scouting organization for girls, then start one. Oh wait, there already is one, but rather than simply join that organization you'd rather fight your way into a group to be along side people who despise you and your changing of their dynamic to suit your own needs.
. The death march of this nation being cheered on by liberals everywhere. FYI, they'll come for you last...it may be awhile but they'll come eventually.PabloSerna said:
It will take at least a generation to die off before any meaningful change can be made. Seeds are being planted now. None of us will be around to see the fruit of this tree.
The fact that they are even discussing this speaks volumes about how far we have come as a nation. The fact that so many cannot see its racist origin and are willing to do something about it - speaks just as loud about how far we have to go as a nation.
agracer said:. The death march of this nation being cheered on by liberals everywhere. FYI, they'll come for you last...it may be awhile but they'll come eventually.PabloSerna said:
It will take at least a generation to die off before any meaningful change can be made. Seeds are being planted now. None of us will be around to see the fruit of this tree.
The fact that they are even discussing this speaks volumes about how far we have come as a nation. The fact that so many cannot see its racist origin and are willing to do something about it - speaks just as loud about how far we have to go as a nation.
Preach!
If sippyville is as full of pendejos as I suspect they are, means this little food fight is headed into the season when the band and some donors will square off.
Half the skinny jeans and drunk coeds on the stands won't even realize it is happening even as they slur "hookem" and Louisiana is up by 3 TDs
Half the skinny jeans and drunk coeds on the stands won't even realize it is happening even as they slur "hookem" and Louisiana is up by 3 TDs
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
dixichkn said:Quote:
The first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the song is how racist it is
All it makes me think of is railroads
Racism against Chinese
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