Surely not, right?
Slicer97 said:
I don't think they have a choice. This was an NCAA decision.
Slicer97 said:
The NCAA didn't have a problem when QB2 at Georgia transferred to OSU.
Slicer97 said:
I don't think they have a choice. This was an NCAA decision.
These players are here to entertain the alumni. They agreed to exchange performing athletically for an education. The alumni have a skin in the game due to donations. The alumni have a right to expect a return on investment.cajunaggie08 said:
and yet here you are bashing a student because your favorite college football team may win one less game this season because there was a loophole to exploit. Who really is the baby here?
The alumni have a right to nothing. Yes we all know the football team is funded by alumni donations so that we can say our school is better than someone elses school. However, as part of the charade that is modern college football thee programs are funded by donations. Not purchases. You gifted the athletic department the money for them to do with it as they please. You dont get any say in what the student-athlete does. You may not like the athletes and can choose to not continue to donate, but don't misconstrue your donation as having a right to a "return on investment."Sparkie said:These players are here to entertain the alumni. They agreed to exchange performing athletically for an education. The alumni have a skin in the game due to donations. The alumni have a right to expect a return on investment.cajunaggie08 said:
and yet here you are bashing a student because your favorite college football team may win one less game this season because there was a loophole to exploit. Who really is the baby here?
I'd agree as long as schools are required to honor the scholarship for all 5 years.aeon-ag said:
If a scholarship athlete signs a letter of intent, they should be made to fullfill that agreement! If they "opt" out then it should be out all the way! I'm so sick and tired of these spoiled rotten children given every opportunity there is, free room to lay up and sleep in, free board to stuff their faces with good food,then a free education which few take advatage of to play a game five months out of the year and not to mention all the under the table perks we don't know about, then crying about how mistreated they are. POOOOOOOR BABIES!!!!!
Justin Fields makes people want to watch CFB. That's why they let him do itslyfox07 said:Slicer97 said:
The NCAA didn't have a problem when QB2 at Georgia transferred to OSU.
Yeah. I'm still scratching my head about that one too.
No rhyme or reason.
strbrst777 said:
Staying on scholarship after opting out to prep for the NFL draft? Give me a break. Real COVID concerns are one thing; deciding to call it quits to prep for NFL draft is another. And this at a time when budgets are being cut and some TAMU employees are losing their jobs. Huh? Nothing personal about this...if for any reason a player does not want to play, so be it. The point is staying on paid scholarship.
I'm sure it was contemplated and expected when they made the rule that some athletes would opt out who intended to leave for the pros.strbrst777 said:
Staying on scholarship after opting out to prep for the NFL draft? Give me a break. Real COVID concerns are one thing; deciding to call it quits to prep for NFL draft is another. And this at a time when budgets are being cut and some TAMU employees are losing their jobs. Huh? Nothing personal about this...if for any reason a player does not want to play, so be it. The point is staying on paid scholarship.
Alpha Texan said:Justin Fields makes people want to watch CFB. That's why they let him do itslyfox07 said:Slicer97 said:
The NCAA didn't have a problem when QB2 at Georgia transferred to OSU.
Yeah. I'm still scratching my head about that one too.
No rhyme or reason.
Asked then answered definitively by the 2nd post. This should've been in the running for the most precise thread of TexAgs. Should'veSlicer97 said:
I don't think they have a choice. This was an NCAA decision.
why capitulate to reason when they came here to troll???MechTechAg said:Asked then answered definitively by the 2nd post. This should've been in the running for the most precise thread of TexAgs. Should'veSlicer97 said:
I don't think they have a choice. This was an NCAA decision.
They could always do like Robert Ferguson did for us in 2000 and enroll for classes but never attend a single one and post a 0.00 GPA.strbrst777 said:
Do players who opt-out to prep for NFL draft keep full-ride status (housing, meals at nutrition center, access to weight facility, stipend, etc? If so by NCAA rule what's rationale for the rule?
Too much competition !slyfox07 said:Slicer97 said:
I don't think they have a choice. This was an NCAA decision.
Does anybody believe that Ausbon is opting out because of Covid? If that's his claim then I think he's exploiting a loophole.
That's not why he's opting out.
The college takes a risk of recruiting a player who has never played a snap of college football.RBarrRB35 said:
True, but stating the obvious... this is starting to change because now an individual athlete can directly make millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars for their university. TAMU cost of an undergrad education is less than $100k. There wasn't always so much money in the sport. I hope we don't eventually lose the concept of student athlete but those are just facts...
The NCAA has explicitly said they are not and the courts have ruled in the NCAA's favor on this. The NCAA was happy about this because it means that the players are still students first. They just happen to generate tons of cash and can have their scholarship to attend school (ya know, because they are students first right?) stripped for not being as good on the field as the next guy being recruited.Sparkie said:The college takes a risk of recruiting a player who has never played a snap of college football.RBarrRB35 said:
True, but stating the obvious... this is starting to change because now an individual athlete can directly make millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars for their university. TAMU cost of an undergrad education is less than $100k. There wasn't always so much money in the sport. I hope we don't eventually lose the concept of student athlete but those are just facts...
Players are like salary employees. Their compensation is fixed and does not depend on the revenue they generate. Professional contracts do not include incentives based upon league revenue. In 2018, the Cowboys generated $864 million dollars. Dac Prescott made $630,000.
Men with bachelor's degrees earn approximately $900,000 more in median lifetime earnings than high school graduates. For an unskilled worker, that's a nice payoff for four years of work. Averaging $250k a year means the college player made 40% of Prescott's salary in 2018.
Again, a donor has a every right to expect a return on investment for their "gift". It's an expectation the athlete fulfills the agreement.cajunaggie08 said:The alumni have a right to nothing. Yes we all know the football team is funded by alumni donations so that we can say our school is better than someone elses school. However, as part of the charade that is modern college football thee programs are funded by donations. Not purchases. You gifted the athletic department the money for them to do with it as they please. You dont get any say in what the student-athlete does. You may not like the athletes and can choose to not continue to donate, but don't misconstrue your donation as having a right to a "return on investment."Sparkie said:These players are here to entertain the alumni. They agreed to exchange performing athletically for an education. The alumni have a skin in the game due to donations. The alumni have a right to expect a return on investment.cajunaggie08 said:
and yet here you are bashing a student because your favorite college football team may win one less game this season because there was a loophole to exploit. Who really is the baby here?
Don't confuse playing football as being a right, it's a privilege.cajunaggie08 said:The NCAA has explicitly said they are not and the courts have ruled in the NCAA's favor on this. The NCAA was happy about this because it means that the players are still students first. They just happen to generate tons of cash and can have their scholarship to attend school (ya know, because they are students first right?) stripped for not being as good on the field as the next guy being recruited.Sparkie said:The college takes a risk of recruiting a player who has never played a snap of college football.RBarrRB35 said:
True, but stating the obvious... this is starting to change because now an individual athlete can directly make millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars for their university. TAMU cost of an undergrad education is less than $100k. There wasn't always so much money in the sport. I hope we don't eventually lose the concept of student athlete but those are just facts...
Players are like salary employees. Their compensation is fixed and does not depend on the revenue they generate. Professional contracts do not include incentives based upon league revenue. In 2018, the Cowboys generated $864 million dollars. Dac Prescott made $630,000.
Men with bachelor's degrees earn approximately $900,000 more in median lifetime earnings than high school graduates. For an unskilled worker, that's a nice payoff for four years of work. Averaging $250k a year means the college player made 40% of Prescott's salary in 2018.
Players under scholarship should play. If they want to sit out, free the spot for someone who does.ActualTalkingThermos said:
In general I think any player in a position to even consider skipping their senior year or sitting out a bowl game or whatever to prepare for the NFL has been a good return on the school's investment. If you're upset that you don't have them anymore, then they were contributing much more than most scholarship players while you had them. Trying to punish them in some way is so counterproductive. As a program, you very much want to continue attracting the kind of player who is talented enough to view your school as a stepping stone on their way to the NFL.