I would put Mond about last. Guy costs us games by refusing to run or take a hit

Bucky
McGee
Manziel
Tannehill
Knight

The qbs on the lists took big shots.

Jff in the open field going straight thru the defender and knocking him the **** out was also pretty memorable.

Bucky
McGee
Manziel

Johnny Holland and William Thomas

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let me help out this thread...

toughness in a QB usually involves a QB taking a beating by either running the ball a lot or getting hammered by the opposing pass rush. (i.e. taking a physical pounding and still making plays)

McGee is definitely in the top 3. The OU & t.u. defenses he played against were loaded with NFL talent and he took a pounding in the running game and the passing game. Remember the 07 game in Lincoln were he carried the ball a whopping 35 times.

Bucky also rushed the ball a ton. Scored 30 career rushing TD's, so you know he took many hits. And of course he missed the 1989 season due to injury.

strangely enough...I don't remember Johnny taking that many hard hits because he was so elusive, so quick. He also usually had great pass protection.

I would probably have Randy McCown round out the top 3. The Big 12 was a great defensive league in the late 90's. And he also ran the ball quite a bit and the A&M o-line was shaky at times.

and if we want to go back to the Bellard era wishbone...David Walker should be in the mix too. Had over 400 career carries...and almost all of them on astroturf

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This.

He refuses to take a hit? Did you watch any games last year? Mond was the most hit in the SEC, some self-inflicted, most due to O-line/Fr TE/Fr RB miscues. He delivered the ball many times while being DRILLED. Then got back up to do it again. I believe it was Clemson last year that he got drilled, was limping, but got up and continued to play.

Mond deserves credit for being tough, he may not be the QB that a lot of Texag zoo wants, but to question his toughness is absurd. Oh wait, it is the zoo.

I would agree with you. Mond is erratic at times as a passer but that dude stands in there and takes hits. I have seen many a quaterback take a couple hits and shy away from staying in the pocket but mond takes a beating and just keeps staying in the pocket. He isn't our best quarterback ever but definitely is one of the tougher ones. As an aggie I can respect that and root for him to improve in other areas.

Bucky and McGee didn't just take a lot of punishment, they dished it out. I remember seeing Bucky at the end of a long run. DB closing in on Bucky at the right sideline. Bucky makes a move like he is going to step out of bounds. Then Bucky plants his foot, turns back into the field, lowers his shoulder and knocks the DB on his butt. Gets another few yards before losing his balance due to the hit. Still makes me laugh, seeing that DB flying. McGee gave out some tough hits in his time as well.

They have to be the top two in my book.

Probably Walker next.

JFF was the best QB A&M has ever had, best in CFB for my money. And he took some hits. But nothing like the top three.

Mond is tough, but he seldom if ever passes out the punishment like Bucky & McGee did. And many of his sacks are his own fault.

We were at the Nebraska game (Nicest fans ever), when McGee ran 35 times and just beat up the Cornhusker defense.

A beautiful thing to see.



After the game, the Husker fans went to the Aggie tunnel and gave them a standing ovation.
I've never seen anything like that.

JFF was not "not tough," but he didn't crash into people regularly. The one moment that does stand out is when he ran over the OM Rover who had been spying him the whole '12 game. Rover went out and afterwards, they couldnt stop him. This might be what Sparkie referenced.

JFF also played with a great OL, great WRs and a good playcaller his first year. 2 of SM's OL got drafted. None of his WRs got drafted. Marty B was the only real threat in the passing game, and Fran did not use him enough. Goodson was underrated, but he was not bad enough to create mismatches against tu and ou.

The first taste we got of SM was in '05 when he came into the ou game late. He then played like a man against tu.He competed against tu and ou's future NFL defenses.

SM could not have done what JFF did, but neither could JFF do what SM did. Again, NOT a criticism of JFF.

In a street fight I want Bucky on my side!... and maybe McGee.

BTHO tu without ceasing!

How is Trevor Knight not in this discussion for the top three? I know he only played one season (JFF only played two), but didn't he play most of that busted?

OMeara said:

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McGee acted tough ...

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My gawd.

Write "stupid" on your forehead with a permanent ink Sharpie, and ban yourself.

34blast said:

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I would put Mond about last. Guy costs us games by refusing to run or take a hit

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Terrible take

Agree. Mond is plenty tough and not afraid to run at all. He has made a few runs that ended in some untimely fumbles that I recall however.

Seen Tannehill get hit so hard when unprotected as a receiver, I would wake up the next day sore. Tannehill however, on the next play, would make another catch and take another unprotected hit.

...and no effect.

I know he played before a lot of y'all's time, but Mike Jay was a pretty tough guy, too. He took a lot of big hits holding the ball until the last second in the wishbone. And he's a Marine!

halfastros81 said:

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Agree. Mond is plenty tough and not afraid to run at all. He has made a few runs that ended in some untimely fumbles that I recall however.

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Yeah, needs to clean up the fumbles

You know Kyle Allen was pretty tough. Hadn't seen him mentioned. Not for the traditional reasons but man that dude played hurt. Gutted it out and could only throw the ball about 6 yards.

OMeara said:

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Bucky
Johnny
Mond
Kevin Murray

McGee acted tough ...

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Further proof rooks should not post

Some of y'all seem to be forgetting the loss to Auburn when Johnny hurt his shoulder plowing into their defense and only missing a few snaps. Then the horse collar BS later that could have seriously injured him.

Regardless, the toughest has to be Kyler.

/EOT

I don't know where Mond is on the list but he's played against a bunch of NFL talent and has lead the conference in being sacked.

McDadeTXAggie said:

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I don't know where Mond is on the list but he's played against a bunch of NFL talent and has lead the conference in being sacked.

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Often that has been his own fault.

Vance smith, stormy case, chip ambres

One of the best pure football plays I have her seen. Just built the lore of Johnny football

No arguments with Bucky and McGee but, the play Johnny made against LaTech where (as a Qb) he chases down a defender, who recovered a CMike fumble, JFF strips the ball from that defender....another LaTech defender recovers the ball and begins advancing it. Johnny then chases that LaTech player down and tackles him. That was toughness and competitive will combined on one play.

Bucky
McGee
Tannehill

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"Is that the best you got??"

Chills man!! McGee was a bad ass!!

samhoustonag said:

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McDadeTXAggie said:

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I don't know where Mond is on the list but he's played against a bunch of NFL talent and has lead the conference in being sacked.

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Often that has been his own fault.

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When you're down by 1 or 2 scores and it's a must that you pass/score it's not necessarily his fault. A sub par oline and WRs not getting distance on DBs makes for a painful 3rd and 4th quarter for a QB.

Give the guy some slack. He's doing everything he can with what's given to him.

Y'all all crazy. We're forgetting about Kyler Murray. He decided that he wanted out of the SEC cause the SEC doesn't hit hard enough.

McDadeTXAggie said:

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samhoustonag said:

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McDadeTXAggie said:

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I don't know where Mond is on the list but he's played against a bunch of NFL talent and has lead the conference in being sacked.

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Often that has been his own fault.

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When you're down by 1 or 2 scores and it's a must that you pass/score it's not necessarily his fault. A sub par oline and WRs not getting distance on DBs makes for a painful 3rd and 4th quarter for a QB.

Give the guy some slack. He's doing everything he can with what's given to him.

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He is a good kid. But as a QB, he has a slow release, is slow to work through his progressions and can't read the rush. Those factors enter into many of his sacks, can't blame anyone else for those weaknesses. And you are right, he is doing all he can with the tools he possesses.

He slid right out of town

Most people rank Bucky over McGee, but don't articulate why. I think Ags remember Bucky more fondly because he had better talent around him and the Ags won the vast majority of his games. I'd rank them as follows:
1. McGee & Bucky (tie)
3. David Walker
4. Mike Jay
5. Manziel (very tough for his size, but he would have had several injuries if he was the QB in the running offenses for which the first four played)
6. Mond