gopitt said:

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Bo Darville evidently obsessed with Baylor and Big 12. He must have missed the LSU beatdown if he thinks Ags beat the Bears. Until A&M grooms a new QB Aggies will linger in mediocrity.

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Yet here you are, on this thread.

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njohn87 said:

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Mtn_Guide said:

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Bo Darville said:

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Thier schedule.


Their best win is Iowa State. They'd be 7-4 and getting the **** kicked out of them by LSU if they had our schedule.

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Think lower

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Sorry if I'm misinterpreting your post, but Baylor would be a touchdown or better favorite over every one of our wins.

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Idk about that but if we played Baylor on a nuetral field this weekend they would be 5 pt favorites.

And we would kick the **** out of them nuetral/ kyle/ or kyle north

Yes i saw the last game, yes I have watched Baylor.

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They would never have a neutral field. Doesn't matter where we play it, Aggies will have home field advantage.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Sagarin gives Baylor 4 top 25 wins. 5 top 40 wins. A&M has zero top 40 wins and 1 top 50 win.

ESPN Power Index gives Baylor 4 top 30 wins. 5 top 40 wins. A&M has zero top 30 wins and 2 top 40 wins.

Baylor's defense gave up less PPG than anyone in the Big 12, Bama, Auburn, LSU, Michigan and Notre Dame. And gave up one less touchdown a game than the Aggies.

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Against the least talented conference in the country....

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My dude, have you not heard of the ACC?

In the past 5 years the ACC has never had less players drafted than the Big 12. In several years the ACC is right behind the SEC in players drafted.

The big 12 is always at the bottom. And it usually isn't close. That won't change this year or in the next 5.

Traveler said:

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Narrator voice: "They're not ...."

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^^^THIS^^^

If A&M were in the tu conference they would still have 3 or 4 conference losses.
If bayro was in the SEC they would have 3 or 4 losses
In a head to head matchup with this years teams.......it would be a coin flip

Big 12 teams are still better than ACC teams on average. Draft picks don't automatically equate to better teams.

SABUILDERAG said:

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This goes back to TXHSFB. Texas players are equipped well for soft BDF type of schemes. If Jimbo is going to succeed, he is going to have to recruit out of state players who have been taught how to play power football. Not going to happen with these soft OL and Defensive players.

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Good thing Jimbo is recruiting out of state players..

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Big 12 teams are still better than ACC teams on average. Draft picks don't automatically equate to better teams.

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There is no use arguing with him. The guy could power the DFW power grid if they could find a way to harness all the sunshine he pumps out on a daily basis.

Their #5 WR is better than most if not all A&M's WRs.

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The big 12 is always at the bottom. And it usually isn't close. That won't change this year or in the next 5.

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Over the last 10 years, it's been the SEC at top. The ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 have been in the middle. The Big 12 is at the bottom of the Power 5. That's not only raw numbers but also averaged per team. Last year the ACC and Big 12 were closer, but the ACC has been down and the Big 12 at the upper end of their range.

The thing is if you take out Oklahoma, the Big 12 is closer to the AAC than the rest of the Power 5 in terms of talent. The Big 12 can win early games (in fact they have a winning record against Power 5 non-conference foes this year), but the conference schedule just isn't on the same level. Big 12 Teams MUST schedule non-conference Power 5 teams. Baylor refuses to do so. Based on strength of schedule, a 2 loss Notre Dame or Oregon team has a better playoff resume than a 1 loss Baylor team.

Baylor plays Ole Miss in Houston next September so that should be interesting.

You will not like the sound of this but Baylor would give us a run for our money if we played right now.

Szxt! Pls stop reminding me.

Bo Darville said:

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In the past 5 years the ACC has never had less players drafted than the Big 12. In several years the ACC is right behind the SEC in players drafted.

The big 12 is always at the bottom. And it usually isn't close. That won't change this year or in the next 5.

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Does this account for the Big 12 having 10 teams as opposed to, say, 12 or 14?

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HossAg said:

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Big 12 teams are still better than ACC teams on average. Draft picks don't automatically equate to better teams.

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There is no use arguing with him. The guy could power the DFW power grid if they could find a way to harness all the sunshine he pumps out on a daily basis.

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You mean like when you said this on the Old Rivalries board in regards to the sips' win total this year....

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They play in the BDF... The above predictions are laughable. Will gladly take any of yalls money who think they finish sub 8 wins...

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Then you disappeared from the board.

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The big 12 is always at the bottom. And it usually isn't close. That won't change this year or in the next 5.

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Over the last 10 years, it's been the SEC at top. The ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 have been in the middle. The Big 12 is at the bottom of the Power 5. That's not only raw numbers but also averaged per team. Last year the ACC and Big 12 were closer, but the ACC has been down and the Big 12 at the upper end of their range.

The thing is if you take out Oklahoma, the Big 12 is closer to the AAC than the rest of the Power 5 in terms of talent. The Big 12 can win early games (in fact they have a winning record against Power 5 non-conference foes this year), but the conference schedule just isn't on the same level. Big 12 Teams MUST schedule non-conference Power 5 teams. Baylor refuses to do so. Based on strength of schedule, a 2 loss Notre Dame or Oregon team has a better playoff resume than a 1 loss Baylor team.

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Exactly. Posters here don't understand how totally devoid of talent the Big12 is. And each year it gets progressively worse as more and more kids run from that conference on signing day.

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Their #5 WR is better than most if not all A&M's WRs.

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Which is why they went to OT after a 9-9 barn burner vs 5-7 TCU when TCU's QB played the entire game with a dislocated finger, so their air attack was absolutely worthless.

So, if Baylor beats Oklahoma, and Utah isn't impressive against Oregon, there's a very realistic possibility that Baylor is in the College Football Playoffs. WTF?! Matt Rhule is incredible.

Interesting article/video about how Rhule recruits.

https://footballscoop.com/news/matt-rhule-has-a-great-message-aimed-at-recruits-both-and-recruiters/

Rhule's recruiting is hot garbage. He's currently sitting the lowest ranked class in the big 12. Great motivator and a good coach, but he hasn't shown he's a great recruiter at all.

Coryhub said:

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. yes I know they play BDF and weak schedule but they hammered tu
How..?

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Answered your own question.




They play in the BDF and so does tu.

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Rhule's recruiting is hot garbage. He's currently sitting the lowest ranked class in the big 12. Great motivator and a good coach, but he hasn't shown he's a great recruiter at all.

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2019 - #33
2018 - #32
2017 - #34

This after we allowed our program to venture into the darkest part of hell. He gave out 75 scholarships in those 3 classes. The '20 class is going to be small due to the few seniors we have.

Would I rather have a Top 5 class? Of course, but he knows what he is doing to put together a team that can compete/win the Big XII.


South Carolina
2019 - #17
2018 - #18
2017 - #16

Which team has more talent?

SABUILDERAG said:

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This goes back to TXHSFB. Texas players are equipped well for soft BDF type of schemes. If Jimbo is going to succeed, he is going to have to recruit out of state players who have been taught how to play power football. Not going to happen with these soft OL and Defensive players.

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Agree that success for this A&M football program is going to be dependent upon attracting Deep South OL and DL.

A&M is the westernmost SEC team. When Coach Fisher turns the program in the direction of double digit wins (beginning in 2020), he is going to have even more success on the recruiting trail.

Success builds upon success.

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Bo Darville said:

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Rhule's recruiting is hot garbage. He's currently sitting the lowest ranked class in the big 12. Great motivator and a good coach, but he hasn't shown he's a great recruiter at all.

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2019 - #33
2018 - #32
2017 - #34

This after we allowed our program to venture into the darkest part of hell. He gave out 75 scholarships in those 3 classes. The '20 class is going to be small due to the few seniors we have.

Would I rather have a Top 5 class? Of course, but he knows what he is doing to put together a team that can compete/win the Big XII.


South Carolina
2019 - #17
2018 - #18
2017 - #16

Which team has more talent?

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Won't know until those classes go through draft cycles.

Bo Darville said:

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Rhule's recruiting is hot garbage. He's currently sitting the lowest ranked class in the big 12. Great motivator and a good coach, but he hasn't shown he's a great recruiter at all.

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Then Rhule impresses me even more, doing more with less.

Cory ur old enough to know better.

Lateralus Ag said:

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Better coaching.

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You are a major league dumbass!

He is usually pretty bright when it comes to football.

That's not how talent works. You have to coach it up to be NFL ready. Raw talent doesn't make you an NFL player, and being drafted doesn't mean you have more raw talent than the guy that didn't.

Several factors. The SEC exposes anything but true depth. Most SEC programs have enough talent to beat you when you bring the weak sauce.

Baylor went to OT with TBAT and tcu.They squeaked by WV by blocking a FG at the end of regulation.

They might have beaten Auburn at home. Maybe. IF they brought the weak sauce like we did against Auburn, they lose. They would have lost to Clemson, Bama and LSU.

Not an accident that Sagarin and FPI dislike baylor.

HossAg said:

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That's not how talent works. You have to coach it up to be NFL ready. Raw talent doesn't make you an NFL player, and being drafted doesn't mean you have more raw talent than the guy that didn't.

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NFL players are by and large born, not developed. That's why you have such a high correlation to recruiting stars and the draft.

tshirtmoron said:

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baylor probably goes 8-4 or 7-5 with a&m's schedule. the difference is a&m does not go 11-1 or better with baylor's schedule.

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Agreed. There's no way Big12 officials hand us a game against Tech.

njohn87 said:

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Mtn_Guide said:

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Bo Darville said:

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Thier schedule.


Their best win is Iowa State. They'd be 7-4 and getting the **** kicked out of them by LSU if they had our schedule.

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Think lower

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Sorry if I'm misinterpreting your post, but Baylor would be a touchdown or better favorite over every one of our wins.

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I agree with you, but they'd also be underdogs against every one of our losses.