Fran and Sumlin should never have been hired. Flash in the pan.

Ifishandlie said:

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Seamaster said:

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In my lifetime (but the same is true for whenever you were born):

1980: 4-7
1981: 7-5
1982: 5-6
1983: 5-5-1
1984: 6-5
1985: 10-2
1986: 9-3
1987: 10-2
1988: 7-5
1989: 8-4
1990: 9-3-1
1991: 10-2
1992: 12-1
1993: 10-2
1994: 10-0-1
1995: 9-3
1996: 6-6
1997: 9-4
1998: 11-3
1999: 8-4
2000: 7-5
2001: 8-4
2002: 6-6
2003: 4-8
2004: 7-5
2005: 5-6
2006: 9-4
2007: 7-6
2008: 4-8
2009: 6-7
2010: 9-4
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2
2013: 9-4
2014: 8-5
2015: 8-5
2016: 8-5
2017: 7-6
2018: 9-4
2019: 3-2....so far

Sigh.

High points. Well, 6 SWC Championships. So that's nice. 1 Big 12 Championship. One Heisman Trophy.

Other than that? Mediocre. The Aggies usually beat the teams they're supposed to beat (directional schools) and normally lose to teams they're not favored to beat (Clemson, Bama etc).

We're not that good. Compare the past 39 years to OU, Texas, LSU, Alabama etc. A&M is basically Texas Tech.

Get used to it Ags. I don't see this changing anytime soon.

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That's 40 years of football.

For comparison ..during that time tu won 324 games
Aggies won 307 games

That's a difference of 17 games over 40 years.

My point is tu isn't that good either. Look at the records.

We should have had a natty in the 90's. We were close

It takes a good coach and some luck to win nattys

Edit
TT won 253 games Over the same 40 years
That's 54 games less than the Aggies

I wouldn't say we compare well to them

Edit.
Ou won 364 games during that 40 year period

Interestingly from 1980-1999 ou was 152/77
They won 67% of their games.

The Aggies were 165/72 which is 70%

Point is football is cyclical.

Fans only remember yesterday. It's a fan problem not a tamu problem.

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Nothing like cherry picking some years to try to put some shine on things.

Why not cherry pick something random like 1991-1994? We had a good run then, why not focus soley on that slice of historical pie?

The end result is still the same - and that is nobody cares what your records were in whatever random years you decide to pick to try to make your case. Nobody cares if you never lost at home or had a better or even record compared to another school in the same time frame. That is just moral victories, nothing more.

What matters is where your program is, and what hardware you have brought home - because that is what the history books remember. I was in school from 1997-2001 when I walked, couldn't tell you what our records were. Can remember a few select games, but I remember mostly the fact that we got our ass handed to us in the only major bowl game we've played in since the BCS era was established. That's not something to brag about.

Here is the metric that ultimately matters. Since 1980, which is what year the OP arbitrarily used:

Alabama - 6
Miami - 5
Clemson - 3
Florida - 3
Florida State - 3
Nebraska - 3
LSU - 2
USCw - 2
tOSU - 2
Oklahoma - 2
Penn State - 2
Auburn - 1
BYU - 1
Colorado - 1
Georgia Tech - 1
Georgia - 1
Michigan - 1
Notre Dame - 1
Tennesee - 1
tu - 1
Washingon - 1

Those are national championships won by schools since 1980.

I don't see A&M anywhere on that list. In fact, our best finish since 1980 is #5, and that is the only time we cracked the top 5. We have managed to crack the top 10 in final polls 5 times. Top 25 17 times. 22 times we finished the season unranked.