HoustonAg2106 said:

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It's silly to think players at this level should be motivated by anything other than winning championships and making it to the NFL.

Players attending fish camp, yell practice, silver taps, e-walk, etc wouldn't change a damn thing

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black_hat_ag said:

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Remember. Keep your feelings and emotions in check. Very important.

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queso1 said:

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I was speaking to a friend of mine and he regularly maintains that we look like the same team year after year and experience mediocrity regardless of coach or scheme because players aren't buying into the culture of TAMU. I agree with him that short of 2012, we always look the same mediocre team.

He says that students and alumni have their vision of TAMU culture (yell practice, Silver taps, muster, E-walk etc), but players obviously aren't interested in this and aren't buying into it, which is expected. Players at Bama probably don't buy into the same things the students at Bama buy into, but they are invested in the Bama program.

He believes it is all due to the Athletic department. Says that we really have nothing to distinguish us from any other school except for a great stadium. You look at Texas or Ohio State and they celebrate their greatness and even fabricated greatness with a monumental trophy room, etc. they also have the good fortune to have a wonderful history of greatness.

Our players really have nothing to buy into. Our last NC was 1939 and our last conference championship was 1998. Fran was supposedly the best coach, he couldn't get it done. He thinks that if Jimbo can't get it done here, then we will know that nobody short of a Saban could get it done, and Saban is one in a million.

I'm sure the first few posts will consist of "shut up" and other flames, but once we get past that, we can have a discussion. Thoughts? If he is on the right train of thought, how do we fix it? Is it fixable?

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bv86ag said:

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Only problem with that theory is Clemson....who only had 1 national title to their credit prior to a couple years ago.

They gave Dabo Swinney a lot of time to build...and he did it. But they had no history of sustained greatness prior to Dabo. In fact, if you recall....people used to make fun of them choking in big games just 5 years or so ago....remember the term "clemsoning"?

Now look at them.

If it can be done at Clemson...it can be done at Texas A&M.

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queso1 said:

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I was speaking to a friend of mine and he regularly maintains that we look like the same team year after year and experience mediocrity regardless of coach or scheme because players aren't buying into the culture of TAMU. I agree with him that short of 2012, we always look the same mediocre team.

He says that students and alumni have their vision of TAMU culture (yell practice, Silver taps, muster, E-walk etc), but players obviously aren't interested in this and aren't buying into it, which is expected. Players at Bama probably don't buy into the same things the students at Bama buy into, but they are invested in the Bama program.

He believes it is all due to the Athletic department. Says that we really have nothing to distinguish us from any other school except for a great stadium. You look at Texas or Ohio State and they celebrate their greatness and even fabricated greatness with a monumental trophy room, etc. they also have the good fortune to have a wonderful history of greatness.

Our players really have nothing to buy into. Our last NC was 1939 and our last conference championship was 1998. Fran was supposedly the best coach, he couldn't get it done. He thinks that if Jimbo can't get it done here, then we will know that nobody short of a Saban could get it done, and Saban is one in a million.

I'm sure the first few posts will consist of "shut up" and other flames, but once we get past that, we can have a discussion. Thoughts? If he is on the right train of thought, how do we fix it? Is it fixable?

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