You can't teach accuracy; you have it or you don't at this level...

"The thing that's amazing to me, is that after all of high school he's not accurate, and now all of a sudden you're special and you're going to make him accurate? And then after college he's not accurate, and you're special and you're going to make him accurate? I just haven't seen that happen. I've seen guys improve, but they don't all of a sudden become accurate."

"The other thing is, you can go grab a shortstop and teach him to play quarterback easier than you can make someone accurate."

Agree. The question is what is the coach seeing in him, that everyone else does not. Are really all the other backups way worse? I would rather take a less mobile quarterback that at least has a higher ceiling, that can grow with each game as a passer and coordinator of the game. I think Mond reached his ceiling and you can't make him any better. This is his third year, and if in 3 years you haven't improved a bit as a passer, than what is there left to see?

I wonder how accurate Mond is in practice, especially just throwing to receivers running routes with no coverage. I can't imagine he misses open receivers in practice to the degree he does in games, or so it seems.

Mike Leach also said (Probably). Man Tennessee hired that guy over me? Sheesh.

But a coach can give a quarterback higher percentage throws based on the game situation.

He's not the only one who said it.

Accuracy is not great, but its not even the primary reason Mond struggles at QB. He cant make decisions at game speed. He doesnt process the decision to improvise or run, he is slow at making the necessary calls and reads before the play. What we have is Trevor Knight-like accuracy but instead of being able to run or make a play on his own its just spastic play in the pocket.

I've been saying this for the last year on this site. When you are a 59% passer in high school for three years and two year in college your not suddenly turn into a 70&"% passer. Bad mechanics can be improved but not enough to make a great qb. I'm know some people thought that after Texas State he had changed but everyone looks better when receivers are wide open with no rush.
With this being said I believe he is our best hope this year. Fisher sees all the quarterbacks every day and it's not that difficult to chose the best one. Make no mistake, Fisher knows what he's got and he has to make the most of it.

Accuracy breaks down when form is altered. Form is altered due to pressure (mentally and physically). You see this with pitchers, QBs, basketball players, golfers etc. I believe this explains Mond's "streaky" nature over his career...the trick is can he and the coaches narrow down his issue and not just say 'he had a bad game'...great coaching staff recognize the tiniest alteration in form and make a change before next game.

Mond does not appear to move fluidly. He looks somewhat stiff !

Read mine above. Mechanics are difficult to alter.

rootube said:

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Mike Leach also said (Probably). Man Tennessee hired that guy over me? Sheesh.

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Wouldn't mind seeing Leach at UT. Would be good for the SEC.

He had a run as an assistant at Kentucky back in the 90s.

Yeah, my point is, he has the ability to throw a great ball with perfect form unlike other quarterbacks who are way off with their mechanics. Without watching film from yesterday, he likely was consistently straying from how he's been taught. Could be weight shift during throws, etc. Things you can forget about under pressure. Hopefully they can go back and figure out where he strayed.

There are QBs who are consistently accurate even when they are stressed or pressured. Mond was not one of those QBs last night, but we have seen him be one at times in the past. IMO, it's not his accuracy that I'm concerned with as much as his consistency. He has to make accurate throws more often, and our receivers have to catch the damn ball when it hits their hands. If the receivers would have caught all the balls that hit their hands last night, the game would have looked very different. Kellen had a bad game, but he shouldn't be the lone scapegoat.

You can see Mond's accuracy get better when he's not rushing and his footwork is sound.

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There are QBs who are consistently accurate even when they are stressed or pressured. Mond was not one of those QBs last night.

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I feel like there is some way to blame JFF for all this.

Like watching Gary Kubiak trying to get something out of David Carr.

At this age,he is who he is. He's not going to develop good mechanics.

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Like watching Gary Kubiak trying to get something out of David Carr.

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Carr was a very good QB. He got used and abused, much like Earl Campbell did at RB back in the day.

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Fisher sees all the quarterbacks every day and it's not that difficult to chose the best one. Make no mistake, Fisher knows what he's got and he has to make the most of it.

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Perhaps Mond is much better in practice, but gets too nervous during games. I would hope he's not this bad in practice.

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At this age,he is who he is. He's not going to develop good mechanics.

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Then why do college QB's continue to go to work with George Whitfield?

Not being snarky here, just wondering if Whitfield is just a QB snake-oil salesman.

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I've been saying this for the last year on this site. When you are a 59% passer in high school for three years and two year in college your not suddenly turn into a 70&"% passer. Bad mechanics can be improved but not enough to make a great qb. I'm know some people thought that after Texas State he had changed but everyone looks better when receivers are wide open with no rush.
With this being said I believe he is our best hope this year. Fisher sees all the quarterbacks every day and it's not that difficult to chose the best one. Make no mistake, Fisher knows what he's got and he has to make the most of it.

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Ashley, I'm sure you're a lovely person, but you write like you murdered an English teacher

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tsuag10 said:

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There are QBs who are consistently accurate even when they are stressed or pressured. Mond was not one of those QBs last night.

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I feel like there is some way to blame JFF for all this.

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It certainly doesn't help settle the cliff-jumpers and pot-bangers when the images of JFF's generational talent are still fresh in our minds. He gave us a measuring stick that is difficult to apply to most college QBs.

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ashley said:

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At this age,he is who he is. He's not going to develop good mechanics.

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Then why do college QB's continue to go to work with George Whitfield?

Not being snarky here, just wondering if Whitfield is just a QB snake-oil salesman.

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I've wondered the exact same thing. It almost seems like he works with some big-name guys for a little while just so he can name-drop them and get more business with these college QBs.

If 2020 is suppose to be our year and you don't think Mond is the QB to compete for a national championship it is best to put the QB you think in now even if for a few series each game.
I honestly think that Mond is Jimbo's guy so we will ride or die with him behind center

I would like to see Mond run more. He is not really a dual-threat QB if he fails time and time again to take advantage of opportunities. And he is not a good pure pocket passer.

Speaking of Leach....that Minshew kid was super accurate today for a pretty awful Jax team

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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tsuag10 said:

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There are QBs who are consistently accurate even when they are stressed or pressured. Mond was not one of those QBs last night.

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I feel like there is some way to blame JFF for all this.

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Well considering the rumors that they interviewed him for the job and passed on him, I would not hold my breath. Also you would have to put faith in their ability to manage a coaching hire something that they have a very bad track record of lately.

Bottlehead90 said:

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But a coach can give a quarterback higher percentage throws based on the game situation.

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Unfortunately, he misses those, too.

Juuuuuuust a little outside...

My daughter, wife and my son have said the same thing. My wife will get a kick out of this.
I was a football coach for forty years and not much of an writer.

Except Mond was more accurate in week 1 than we've ever seen him... You know what else can affect accuracy? 2 YPC on the ground, making you one dimensional, knocking you off schedule, having the defense back waiting for the pass every play or bringing an extra blitzer off the edge that the RB / Tackle's fail to pick up.

Seriously Mond played a great defense in a tough environment. He missed some passes. But he was pressured constantly and when he did make great throws his WR's refused to make plays (most of the time). The ground game failed to take pressure off the passing game. It was an all around disappointing game for everybody.

Also, Mike Leach... one of the top 100 active coaches in college football for sure. Really killing it with his .560 winning percentage at WSU.

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Except Mond was more accurate in week 1 than we've ever seen him... You know what else can affect accuracy? 2 YPC on the ground, making you one dimensional, knocking you off schedule, having the defense back waiting for the pass every play or bringing an extra blitzer off the edge that the RB / Tackle's fail to pick up.

Seriously Mond played a great defense in a tough environment. He missed some passes. But he was pressured constantly and when he did make great throws his WR's refused to make plays (most of the time). The ground game failed to take pressure off the passing game. It was an all around disappointing game for everybody.

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A weak running game should not affect your ability to throw the ball with some semblance of accuracy. I'm sorry, but that's downright silly.

I watched the game today, because I was hunting yesterday, and Mond was downright terrible in the 1st half. The running game had nothing to do with it.

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Also, Mike Leach... one of the top 100 active coaches in college football for sure. Really killing it with his .560 winning percentage at WSU.

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Leach is an offensive genius and is one of the best college QB coaches around.