AAF, then will sign for the league minimum to back up Nick Foles in Arizona.

Book it.

Im wondering what the hidden story is......
Somethings up for a team to release their second string quarterback

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Im wondering what the hidden story is......
Somethings up for a team to release their second string quarterback

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He was their starter and they didn't want to release him. It wasn't their decision to make.

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fightinag said:

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Im wondering what the hidden story is......
Somethings up for a team to release their second string quarterback

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He was their starter and they didn't want to release them. It wasn't their decision to make.

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Shh...he thinks he knows all of the facts that have been made public.

Only franchise in store for Mr. Football is a Nissan franchise in a place like Tyler or Kerrville.

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You guys think maybe he's doing this because it's the right time for him to finally entertain MLB offers? I've always said that I could see him as a shortstop or 2nd basemen, possibly a left fielder or 1st baseman, but could also see him pitching or playing 3rd.

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I would guess the 2 most logical reasons are:

1) He pissed positive

2) he and his agent decided not to engage in good faith and reached out to other leagues to force the CFL into releasing him so he could pursue other opportunities in the states. Seeing the ratings and exposure of the AAF in the last couple weeks had to be really enticing.

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He's a total embarrassment to A&M. Great talent totally wasted. Low life. You reap what you sow. Good riddance.

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This is a very ignorant thing to say. He has been on an upward trend the past couple of years. You have no idea what happened today. Whatever the infraction was, it was not bad enough for his team to want to let him go. That, we do know.

Note to self: Whenever the post is pure stupid, check for the absence of an Ag Tag.

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Here is a little video of the "upward trend of his career of the past couple of years".

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You guys think maybe he's doing this because it's the right time for him to finally entertain MLB offers? I've always said that I could see him as a shortstop or 2nd basemen, possibly a left fielder or 1st baseman, but could also see him pitching or playing 3rd.

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I know he's an "elite athlete" and all, but do you really think many MLB teams are going to want to sign a guy, even for their farm system, who's 26 and hasn't played baseball for 8 years?

Then again, Tebow... But still

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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I thought that in game 1 but by the end of the year he was playing much better.

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Only franchise in store for Mr. Football is a Nissan franchise in a place like Tyler or Kerrville.

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Owning a car dealership sounds like a softer landing than the current path would suggest.

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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AAF, then will sign for the league minimum to back up Nick Foles in Arizona.

Book it.

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Well those are the current professional football leagues that have not completely banned him from participation. Here's a running scorecard of where we know he can't play next year.

Texas A&M
Cleveland Browns
The entire CFL

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I would guess the 2 most logical reasons are:

1) He pissed positive

2) he and his agent decided not to engage in good faith and reached out to other leagues to force the CFL into releasing him so he could pursue other opportunities in the states. Seeing the ratings and exposure of the AAF in the last couple weeks had to be really enticing.

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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Two plays to make a first instead of three !

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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aTm2004 said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Life was simpler when when Kyler Murray was the entitled jerk and JFF was the 1st round NFL prospect.

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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aTm2004 said:

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RealTalk said:

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

I think there are many on here who know he may never be back in the NFL, but it doesn't mean he sucks. Nobody knows why the CFL cut ties with him, yet there are dozens on this and the other thread immediately jumping to conclusions that it's because of drugs and blasting him for it. Guilty until proven innocent in their eyes. Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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Uh ... most of the speculation about JFF has turned out to be true, but go ahead and continue to contort yourself coming to his keyboard defense.

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Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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Uh ... most of the speculation about JFF has turned out to be true, but go ahead and continue to contort yourself coming to his keyboard defense.

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In the past, yes. What recently can you say is because of drugs/addiction?

aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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RealTalk said:

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

I think there are many on here who know he may never be back in the NFL, but it doesn't mean he sucks. Nobody knows why the CFL cut ties with him, yet there are dozens on this and the other thread immediately jumping to conclusions that it's because of drugs and blasting him for it. Guilty until proven innocent in their eyes. Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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This is the price a celebrity with a long history of making terrible decisions pays. Is it possible this incident is part of a strategy to get him back playing professional football in the US? Sure. Is it the most likely scenario and the best decision for his career? Probably not. If he does end up playing professional football again, does it seem likely that his old problems will go away. You have to say that there is very little evidence to think that they will.

rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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RealTalk said:

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

I think there are many on here who know he may never be back in the NFL, but it doesn't mean he sucks. Nobody knows why the CFL cut ties with him, yet there are dozens on this and the other thread immediately jumping to conclusions that it's because of drugs and blasting him for it. Guilty until proven innocent in their eyes. Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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This is the price a celebrity with a long history of making terrible decisions pays. Is it possible this incident is part of a strategy to get him back playing professional football in the US? Sure. Is it the most likely scenario and the best decision for his career? Probably not. If he does end up playing professional football again, does it seem likely that his old problems will go away. You have to say that there is very little evidence to think that they will.

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That's 100% dependent on him. From what we know, he's made the change for the better and has settled down, and is doing what he needs to do to get to where he wants to be. But there are still some on here who are saying "well Bob, I know you're 2 years sober, but it's only a matter of time before you're back on the sauce."

aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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RealTalk said:

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

I think there are many on here who know he may never be back in the NFL, but it doesn't mean he sucks. Nobody knows why the CFL cut ties with him, yet there are dozens on this and the other thread immediately jumping to conclusions that it's because of drugs and blasting him for it. Guilty until proven innocent in their eyes. Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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This is the price a celebrity with a long history of making terrible decisions pays. Is it possible this incident is part of a strategy to get him back playing professional football in the US? Sure. Is it the most likely scenario and the best decision for his career? Probably not. If he does end up playing professional football again, does it seem likely that his old problems will go away. You have to say that there is very little evidence to think that they will.

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That's 100% dependent on him. From what we know, he's made the change for the better and has settled down, and is doing what he needs to do to get to where he wants to be. But there are still some on here who are saying "well Bob, I know you're 2 years sober, but it's only a matter of time before you're back on the sauce."

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What evidence is there that he has made a change for the better? The part that your correct about is that we don't really know the full truth, but what we do know is not promising. At this point it all seems like stat padding for the inevitable 30 for 30 on ESPN.

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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RealTalk said:

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aTm2004 said:

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MyNameIsKyle said:

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Regardless of the reason for his release, Manziel is physically done. I watched a lot of his CFL snaps and he just doesn't have it - arm looks weak, feet are slower, and decision making was below average. He could still occasionally pull a rabbit out of a hat, but other than that he looked like a marginal CFL qb, much less anything in the states (bc first returns look like the AAF is a much more talented league than the CFL).

I wish him a happy and fulfilling life, but my guess is playing football is no longer involved.

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Didn't he sign with the CFL with like a week or two before taking the field? Yeah, it's football, but there's also differences in rules than football in the US. Couple that with having to learn a whole new offense, even Brady wouldn't be himself.

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More excuses for JFF....

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Or reality. Some of you want to see him fail so you're proven right that you're unwilling to acknowledge simple facts.

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Nobody wants to see him fail. Nothing would make me happier than him starting for the Cowboys next year, but at some point you have to recognize it's not going to happen. When you are permabanned from an entire football league seems like the right time. I remember holding out hope that Reggie McNeal would become a starting QB in the NFL. People on here turned on him far faster and for far less.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

I think there are many on here who know he may never be back in the NFL, but it doesn't mean he sucks. Nobody knows why the CFL cut ties with him, yet there are dozens on this and the other thread immediately jumping to conclusions that it's because of drugs and blasting him for it. Guilty until proven innocent in their eyes. Reminds me of the current political climate and the media jumping to conclusions only to be proven wrong over and over again.

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This is the price a celebrity with a long history of making terrible decisions pays. Is it possible this incident is part of a strategy to get him back playing professional football in the US? Sure. Is it the most likely scenario and the best decision for his career? Probably not. If he does end up playing professional football again, does it seem likely that his old problems will go away. You have to say that there is very little evidence to think that they will.

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That's 100% dependent on him. From what we know, he's made the change for the better and has settled down, and is doing what he needs to do to get to where he wants to be. But there are still some on here who are saying "well Bob, I know you're 2 years sober, but it's only a matter of time before you're back on the sauce."

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What you are talking about is sobriety which entitles every person to enjoy a full and productive life. What it does not entitle you to is an professional football career.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

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I think those people got that way because they are pissed at him for squandering all of his talent and opportunities, talent and opportunities that almost all of us don't have but would be so thankful if we did.

Good luck to Johnny, thanks for being a Good Ag. Stay clean and sober and everything will work out if you follow the program of being clean and sober.

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What evidence is there that he has made a change for the better?

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He came out and admitted he had a problem and took the steps to fix it. He's been quiet every since. When was the last time you've seen reports of him partying it up? With the lightning rod he is for the media, you'll never convince me TMZ is holding a video of him drinking and snorting coke off a stripper in South Beach and not releasing it.

He's also owned the fact that he's not in the NFL because of his decisions and his alone. He's never tried to place blame on others and deny he had anything to do with it. To me, there's respect to be given for that, especially in the world we live in today where everybody is a victim.

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What you are talking about is sobriety which entitles every person to enjoy a full and productive life. What it does not entitle you to is an professional football career.

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I've never said he is entitled to play football. My issue is people immediately jumping to conclusions that it's drugs or him doing what he did several years ago without any evidence. Nothing in the recent past or the present points to that being the case. Does that mean that it's not? No.

until the story is revealed, all this is nothing more than hypothetical flatulation...

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

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I think those people got that way because they are pissed at him for squandering all of his talent and opportunities, talent and opportunities that almost all of us don't have but would be so thankful if we did.

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And it's his to squander. Would they say the same about their child if they went to Harvard Law and decided to run a bar in the Caribbean after graduation rather than practice law?

Yes on the no Ag Tag comment. Usually that way on every board.

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I believe there are people on here who are rooting for him to fail. Just look at any thread about JFF and you'll see the same core of people start spouting off about how he sucks now, a bum, and will never amount to anything. It's never anything positive.

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I think those people got that way because they are pissed at him for squandering all of his talent and opportunities, talent and opportunities that almost all of us don't have but would be so thankful if we did.

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And it's his to squander. Would they say the same about their child if they went to Harvard Law and decided to run a bar in the Caribbean after graduation rather than practice law?

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Just because it's his to squander doesn't mean people should agree with it