I forgot that Lebron and his agent both dropped him. That should have been a wake up call to Jonathan.

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I forgot that Lebron and his agent both dropped him. That should have been a wake up call to Jonathan.

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That was over 2 years ago and since then he has cleaned himself up. So maybe it was part of the wake up call you speak of.

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Any other ideas on what it might be?

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Sure. Could be that he was late to practice. Or that he said a curse word during a team meeting. Or that he didn't have the right color shoes on. Or he said something mean on the internet. Or that his he didn't want to make unpaid public appearances. And I have exactly as much proof of all of my theories as everyone else does for their substance abuse theory.

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He refused to eat mayo on french fries!

My guess is either he or his rep and/or both were reaching out to any team in another league and IN THE UNITED STATES for an opportunity.

Johnny is done.

It seems to me he does have Chance to play in that new league AAF. But that will be it. His skill and ability will continue to decay over time. Very hard To get that edge back.

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People pay for his autograph??!! He'd have to pay me to take it!

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I loved JFF as much as the next person at A&M, but he's irrelevant now. Maybe time for him to find a desk job

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As his brother does, car dealership.

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He has got to be one of the biggest idiots of all time. He needs to just go away.

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Who is a bigger idiot...the guy who lost a CFL contract for reasons unknown, or the guy who calls him an idiot before knowing why the contract was terminated?

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"Reasons unknown" lol C'mon man. If you haven't picked up on the pattern by now you have no right to speculate who the idiots are here.

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aTm2004 said:

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texasaggie84 said:

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He has got to be one of the biggest idiots of all time. He needs to just go away.

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Who is a bigger idiot...the guy who lost a CFL contract for reasons unknown, or the guy who calls him an idiot before knowing why the contract was terminated?

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"Reasons unknown" lol C'mon man. If you haven't picked up on the pattern by now you have no right to speculate who the idiots are here.

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Immediately jumping to conclusions with zero evidence is being an idiot.

hth

Some are done with Johnny, I am not. Never will be.
Don't know Johnny personally but wish I did . Don't know if he will ever throw another football or not. I hope so. Johnny is a good guy with a great heart. Oh, btw, he's an Aggie.

Man BAS is strong in this thread. An Ag makes mistakes and people are ready to completely shun him. That's not exactly what I think an Ag should do.

I'm praying for the best for him in whatever he does. Doesn't mean I'm a fan boy, it just means I'm a fellow Ag.

And if Johnny went to a different school and this is happening, I'll tell you what I'd think. I'd think nothing because I wouldn't care.

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Man BAS is strong in this thread. An Ag makes mistakes and people are ready to completely shun him. That's not exactly what I think an Ag should do.

I'm praying for the best for him in whatever he does. Doesn't mean I'm a fan boy, it just means I'm a fellow Ag.

And if Johnny went to a different school and this is happening, I'll tell you what I'd think. I'd think nothing because I wouldn't care.

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I don' think anyone is rooting against him or hoping for him to fail, but being an Ag doesn't mean you should ignore their faults and pretend like everything is alright, I hope he gets his life together and succeeds in whatever he does...but he needs help to do that and saying that doesn't make me a bad Aggie.

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

Why aren't we hearing about why he was released? Is there some sort of NDA or gag order?

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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rsf0626 said:

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I loved JFF as much as the next person at A&M, but he's irrelevant now. Maybe time for him to find a desk job

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As his brother does, car dealership.

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Johnny doesn't have brother. His dad used to work at a car dealership.

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I said shun

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

Com'on man just look at the love, support he received and then his track record. What ever is between his ears is what is keeping him down.

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aeon-ag said:

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rsf0626 said:

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I loved JFF as much as the next person at A&M, but he's irrelevant now. Maybe time for him to find a desk job

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As his brother does, car dealership.

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Johnny doesn't have brother. His dad used to work at a car dealership.

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The family fortune is so vast his dad currently works at Team Ford of Navasota. Isn't that what all rich people do?

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Why aren't we hearing about why he was released? Is there some sort of NDA or gag order?

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Probably because most of the world doesn't GAF.

aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

Bill Pollian AAF co-founder: "We had feelers out to people close to him. We're in the process of going through due diligence. I would say it's 50 percent done. We don't intend to comment on anything on Johnny personally for reasons that are legally obvious."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2823828-aaf-co-founder-bill-polian-on-johnny-manziel-we-put-out-feelers-for-qb

aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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No

vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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No

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If he got kicked out for no good reason he would be in the AAF right now

HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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Do you think TMZ or somebody would have something on Johnny if he was back on drugs or drinking?

HoustonAg2106 said:

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vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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No

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If he got kicked out for no good reason he would be in the AAF right now

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He is in the process of joining them. From what I've heard there is a hold up on the CFL side.

aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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Do you think TMZ or somebody would have something on Johnny if he was back on drugs or drinking?

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Absolutely, I never said I think he's back on drugs or anything...all I said was he was kicked out of another football league (and this time banned from playing with any team again) so it's pretty clear he did something to warrant that (and other leagues are going to be cautious about brining him in because that is a pretty clear red flag, I'm sure the AAF is in contact with people in the CFL about why they banned him)

Now if he does get another chance, I really truly hope he does well...I love watching him play (just haven't been able to watch him play much lately and that seems to be his own fault)

vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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No

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If he got kicked out for no good reason he would be in the AAF right now

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He is in the process of joining them. From what I've heard there is a hold up on the CFL side.

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He's not under contract, the only hold up would be the AAF's concern about why the CFL decided to ban it's biggest name from playing in their league...

HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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Do you think TMZ or somebody would have something on Johnny if he was back on drugs or drinking?

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Absolutely, I never said I think he's back on drugs or anything...all I said was he was kicked out of another football league (and this time banned from playing with any team again) so it's pretty clear he did something to warrant that (an other leagues are going to be cautious about brining him in because that is a pretty clear red flag)

Now if he does get another chance, I really truly hope he does well...I love watching him play (just haven't been able to watch him play much lately and that seems to be his own fault)

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You said "he needs help to get his life together." How do you know he doesn't have his life together? Because a football organization in Canada of all places ended his contract for unknown reasons? What happened in the NFL is clear and known, and he's owned it. What is known from his time in the CFL is that he wasn't partying like he used to, so until it's known why the contract was ended, I'll refrain from alluding to speculation of past decisions.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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vander54 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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aTm2004 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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ChemEAg08 said:

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Aggie said:

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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No

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If he got kicked out for no good reason he would be in the AAF right now

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He is in the process of joining them. From what I've heard there is a hold up on the CFL side.

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He's not under contract, the only hold up would be the AAF's concern about why the CFL decided to ban it's biggest name from playing in their league...

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I do not know the details but like I said I've heard it was on the CFLs side.

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I'm actually amazed at how many still back Johnny. And even more amazing some actually think he still has an NFL shot.

He needs help.
He will never be relevant again in the game of football, on any level in any league.

This is a true example of being blinded by the uniform.
I'd love to see this boards reaction if Johnny had attended another school.

Great great college QB... but Johnny is done and has been for awhile.

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I said shun, not root against.

And not backing him anymore as this person said on the last page (and 10 people agreed with) sounds like shunning him to me. I don't know if he'll play football again at a high level, but I'm still pulling for him to get his life together and achieve what he is trying to do.

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Not backing Johnny means people are tired of defending him. As I said he needs help to get his life together, until he does this he is hard to defend.

If there are people hoping he fails then they are wrong, but again I don't think anyone is doing that

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That's the thing I have a problem with...how do you know he doesn't have his life together? What recent events lead you to that?

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Getting kicked out of another football league for starters.

If he joins the AAF, the XFL, or finds his way back to the NFL I would want to see him succeed as much as anybody, but none of those leagues seem interested and there is definitely a reason why...

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And you know absolutely zero about why he was cut from the CFL. It could be anything from drugs to saying he wasn't a hockey fan.

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Don't you think Johnny or his agent would have leaked the reason by now if it was just something innocent that the CFL overreacted to? Johnny is good for ratings, he didn't get banned for saying he's not a hockey fan (I know that was a sarcastic example)

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Do you think TMZ or somebody would have something on Johnny if he was back on drugs or drinking?

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Absolutely, I never said I think he's back on drugs or anything...all I said was he was kicked out of another football league (and this time banned from playing with any team again) so it's pretty clear he did something to warrant that (an other leagues are going to be cautious about brining him in because that is a pretty clear red flag)

Now if he does get another chance, I really truly hope he does well...I love watching him play (just haven't been able to watch him play much lately and that seems to be his own fault)

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You said "he needs help to get his life together." How do you know he doesn't have his life together? Because a football organization in Canada of all places ended his contract for unknown reasons? What happened in the NFL is clear and known, and he's owned it. What is known from his time in the CFL is that he wasn't partying like he used to, so until it's known why the contract was ended, I'll refrain from alluding to speculation of past decisions.

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In my opinion, someone who keeps getting fired from their job is someone who needs to get their life together. I'm a grown man, but my dad would beat my a$$ if I got fired from every job I've had since college, he wouldn't tell me it's alright it's their fault and I'm doing great!