Wrong thread.

sbag said:

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I don't think people appreciate how freakishly good Tannehill was as an athlete when he was at A&M. He was an even better receiver than a QB.

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That's only because Big Sherm refused to start him because of Jerrod. He lost a season and a half of his college career as a result.

Zoo, you've disappointed me.

Three pages.

Not one wife pic

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greg.w.h said:

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Wish Tannehill the best. But he hasn't shown he can lead either a college or NFL team to success. He only earns a second chance by winning big and there isn't a good argument he gets that chance.

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yep, Tannehill has had one of the strangest college and pro quarterbacking careers I can remember.

and it's not easy to describe why

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I can help describe why his career was so strange. He spent much of his college career as a WR, and he spent much of his pro career on the IR. He should 100% get a shot to play somewhere else in the NFL I just hope he can land in a better spot than he left.

itsyourboypookie said:

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Zoo, you've disappointed me.

Three pages.

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oh, I didn't hear she was leaving Miami too...

Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Really? You think Tom Brady is just a product of the system?

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Really? You think Tom Brady is just a product of the system?

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That's a completely different question than I asked. I'd hafta think on that one a while. I have not studied him. Only seen him play a few times.

Mow, you wanna answer my question?

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Really? You think Tom Brady is just a product of the system?

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Yeah CMH...I mean come on. Tons of other guys could have walked into that system and accomplished what no QB ever in the history of ever has been able to accomplish. And Tanne can run too! He'd probably have gone 9 for 9.

BoerneGator said:

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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Really? You think Tom Brady is just a product of the system?

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That's a completely different question than I asked. I'd hafta think on that one a while. I have not studied him. Only seen him play a few times.

Mow, you wanna answer my question?

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I think he is answering it, but I'll answer it too. Yes, there's tons of doubt that a number of other NFL QB's could have had similar results in the same system. There's so much doubt that I'm not sure a single other QB over the same era could have had similar results.

Manning & Brees are only ones potentially IMO

at one time he said his goal was to go to med school, that was after his career here IIRC

BMX Bandit said:

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Manning & Brees are only ones potentially IMO

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Agree. Then again those were both primarily dome playing QB's. Not sure how Brees would have handled multiple reg season or playoff games in New England. I just think we're seeing what it looks like when the 2 most important positions on a team (HC & QB) also happen to be 2 of the best, if not the best to ever do it.

Ryan Tannehill's Wife

sbag said:

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I don't think people appreciate how freakishly good Tannehill was as an athlete when he was at A&M. He was an even better receiver than a QB.

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The Texans also need a reciever.

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Really? You think Tom Brady is just a product of the system?

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Of course. Everyone is a product of the system. Does anyone think Brady would have 6 super bowl rings had he played his entire career with the Browns? Of course it's also true that the Pats may not have had all the super bowl rings without him but make no mistake landing in the right situation matters A LOT.

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BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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Belicheck's "system" got him fired from his first head coaching job. Look, he's a great defensive coach and outclassed the Rams by far but to think a number of other QB's may have had the same success....no.

I think Manning (highly likely), potentially Brees and maybe Big Ben.

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The system is not just about X/O's. It's about constantly refreshing the roster by making better moves in the draft and free agency. A lot of teams can build a Super Bowl winning program (Saints, Broncos, Ravens Etc.) the trick is to keep the right pieces in place to sustain a championship caliber team. The only team that has managed to do that in the era of free agency is the Patriots.

BoerneGator said:

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As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belichik's system?

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Oh man --- those are fighting words in the northeast. New England fans are stupid in love with Brady and Gronk, more so than Belichick.

Brady is HOF, no ***** But if you look at his numbers of his first super bowl season compared to Mahomes, he was pedestrian. Brady can make all of the throws required of Belichick's system. Its symbiotic for sure. And while we have seen Brady make many precision throws, how often have you been awed by his athleticism or by him making a remarkably tough throw? Hes just not that QB - hes consistent and precise and knows his offense inside and out.

Even when Brady was out for a year, Matt Cassell had a banner year by most team's standards --- and he sucked at his next stop. This really begs the question of whether its the QB or the coach?

Brady will retire, hopefully soon. I hasten this only because I want to see a different QB in the Patriot's system. I want to see if their NEXT QB becomes Brady 2.0. If so, then that gives some credibility to the claim that it wasn't really Brady --- it was Belichick.

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BoerneGator said:

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As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belichik's system?

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Oh man --- those are fighting words in the northeast. New England fans are stupid in love with Brady and Gronk, more so than Belichick.

Brady is HOF, no ***** But if you look at his numbers of his first super bowl season compared to Mahomes, he was pedestrian. Brady can make all of the throws required of Belichick's system. Its symbiotic for sure. And while we have seen Brady make many precision throws, how often have you been awed by his athleticism or by him making a remarkably tough throw? Hes just not that QB - hes consistent and precise and knows his offense inside and out.

Even when Brady was out for a year, Matt Cassell had a banner year by most team's standards --- and he sucked at his next stop. This really begs the question of whether its the QB or the coach?

Brady will retire, hopefully soon. I hasten this only because I want to see a different QB in the Patriot's system. I want to see if their NEXT QB becomes Brady 2.0. If so, then that gives some credibility to the claim that it wasn't really Brady --- it was Belichick.

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Your point loses a lot of steam when you bring up Matt Cassel. 21 TDs/11 Ints is not a banner year by any teams standards.

A few years ago I read an article that did some pretty heavy statistical analysis on QBs in the NFL. The gist of the analysis was basically what sets Brady (and Peyton Manning at that time) apart from everyone else was the ability to sustain drives.

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AggieBill005 said:

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BoerneGator said:

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As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belichik's system?

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Oh man --- those are fighting words in the northeast. New England fans are stupid in love with Brady and Gronk, more so than Belichick.

Brady is HOF, no ***** But if you look at his numbers of his first super bowl season compared to Mahomes, he was pedestrian. Brady can make all of the throws required of Belichick's system. Its symbiotic for sure. And while we have seen Brady make many precision throws, how often have you been awed by his athleticism or by him making a remarkably tough throw? Hes just not that QB - hes consistent and precise and knows his offense inside and out.

Even when Brady was out for a year, Matt Cassell had a banner year by most team's standards --- and he sucked at his next stop. This really begs the question of whether its the QB or the coach?

Brady will retire, hopefully soon. I hasten this only because I want to see a different QB in the Patriot's system. I want to see if their NEXT QB becomes Brady 2.0. If so, then that gives some credibility to the claim that it wasn't really Brady --- it was Belichick.

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Your point loses a lot of steam when you bring up Matt Cassel. 21 TDs/11 Ints is not a banner year by any teams standards.

A few years ago I read an article that did some pretty heavy statistical analysis on QBs in the NFL. The gist of the analysis was basically what sets Brady (and Peyton Manning at that time) apart from everyone else was the ability to sustain drives.

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Good offensive line wins every time !

BoerneGator said:

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Ryan is an exceptional natural athlete. His HS coach is a friend of mind. I saw him at the beginning of Tannehill's RS freshmen season and asked him about his chances of playing then. He replied "he can play any position on the field!"

As good as Tom Brady is, is there any doubt that a number of other NFL quarterbacks could have had similar results had they been lucky enough to have been plugged into Belechek's system?

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I think a healthy Jimmy G. would have won that game as well for them, but Brady wasn't very good anyway on Sunday and needed that running game to eat clock along with Edelman and Gronk exploiting matchups.

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Galborathelion said:

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Hope he lands somewhere, I know two teams in Texas that could use a veteran qb presence!

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What? Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott have both done more in their careers than Tannehill...

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I wonder how either of their accomplishments would look if they had to play the Patriots twice a year.

KW Driver said:

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Saint Pablo said:

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Galborathelion said:

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Hope he lands somewhere, I know two teams in Texas that could use a veteran qb presence!

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What? Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott have both done more in their careers than Tannehill...

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I wonder how either of their accomplishments would look if they had to play the Patriots twice a year.

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But they haven't and they have had more success than Tannehill. There is no reason Dallas or Houston would need them.

I do think that Tannehill can be a good quarterback somewhere else. He had horrible offensive lines, never consistently had good running backs, and outside of Jarvis Landry never had really good receivers.