jja79 said:

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monarch said:

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#17 has more than a few good years left in him; his biggest issue in the NFL was that he played on some mediocre teams.

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Part of those teams problem has been a mediocre QB. Great guy but he hasn't shown much.

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I think a lot of that is that he's never had a decent coach or been part of a halfway decent team. He has all of the tools to be a great QB and I'd love to see him go to a team where hell flourish.

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Synopsis said:

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Galborathelion said:

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Hope he lands somewhere, I know two teams in Texas that could use a veteran qb presence!

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I believe Tannehill can be a great QB. It won't be for the Dolphins. They have a REAL coaching / front office issue there. I'd love to see the guy go somewhere and win a Superbowl. All of the players LOVE him, he's a leader and very talented/athletic. He could be a force to be reckoned with in the NFL.

Good luck wherever you go Ryan, I'll be rooting for you big time.

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Hell, even the practice squad loves him. They think he's a righteous dude.

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He's a genuinely decent person on top of being a great athlete and represents your university very well. Plus, his wife is HOT!

Tannehill just never has been able to be become a good NFL QB. Surprised Miami hung on to him as long as they did. He would make a great backup or even QB coach.

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jja79 said:

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monarch said:

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#17 has more than a few good years left in him; his biggest issue in the NFL was that he played on some mediocre teams.

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Part of those teams problem has been a mediocre QB. Great guy but he hasn't shown much.

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I think a lot of that is that he's never had a decent coach or been part of a halfway decent team. He has all of the tools to be a great QB and I'd love to see him go to a team where hell flourish.

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agreed. I don't understand why a&m and the dolphins didn't take more advantage of his mobility. He was a hell of a receiver. Don't keep him in the pocket all game.

Tannehill's biggest problem in Miami has been subpar Oline play compounded by coaching instability.

With a good Oline and offensive coaching, he could be a very solid to very good NFL QB.

His one biggest issue that keeps him from being a great QB is he lacks pocket presence. He doesn't feel pressure and he gets tunnel vision to where he gets a lot of balls batted at the line, especially for a guy that's 6'4" and has an over the top delivery on his passes.

With the dearth of quality QBs in the NFL, I'm sure he will land somewhere and do ok.

Mobility suffered with knee injuries (2 of them, right?).

Hope he makes a team as always rooting for Ags (esp. Ags that do things 'right'), but no one will be chomping to make them their starter. Do think he lands as a potential backup on a team (just hope it's not a crappy team where he'll fail).

Would Brady have better results on the Dolphins?

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RealTalk said:

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Let's be real...Tannehill is a flop. But he's made a crap ton of money and got a hot wife so he got that going for him.

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Career 63% passer with a 1.64 td/Int ratio thru 6? Years in the league.

That's not all pro or HOF but I think you need to be real. He's not a flop. Flops are Ryan Leaf, jamarcus Russell and (dare I say it) johnny Manziel types.

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He's probably around the 18th-25th best QB in the league. The problem is that for starting QBs, teams either already have a good QB or are attempting a develop a young QB into a long-term solution. There is a somewhat limited market for 31-year old "meh, he's okay" starting QBs.

Emilio Fantastico said:

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Tannehill's biggest problem in Miami has been subpar Oline play compounded by coaching instability.

With a good Oline and offensive coaching, he could be a very solid to very good NFL QB.

His one biggest issue that keeps him from being a great QB is he lacks pocket presence. He doesn't feel pressure and he gets tunnel vision to where he gets a lot of balls batted at the line, especially for a guy that's 6'4" and has an over the top delivery on his passes.

With the dearth of quality QBs in the NFL, I'm sure he will land somewhere and do ok.

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EXCELLENT post.

CrottyKid said:

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Would Brady have better results on the Dolphins?

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Nope.

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CrottyKid said:

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Would Brady have better results on the Dolphins?

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Nope.

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Depends on whether Kraft lets him take his refs with him.

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Synopsis said:

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jja79 said:

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monarch said:

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#17 has more than a few good years left in him; his biggest issue in the NFL was that he played on some mediocre teams.

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Part of those teams problem has been a mediocre QB. Great guy but he hasn't shown much.

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I think a lot of that is that he's never had a decent coach or been part of a halfway decent team. He has all of the tools to be a great QB and I'd love to see him go to a team where hell flourish.

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agreed. I don't understand why a&m and the dolphins didn't take more advantage of his mobility. He was a hell of a receiver. Don't keep him in the pocket all game.

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with how often he's been injured, I doubt they want to run that risk.

So, this happened last March:

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It wasn't easy, but the Dolphins did manage to get under the cap by Wednesday's deadline and a big reason they were able to do that is because Ryan Tannehill was willing to restructure his contract. According to NFL.com, Tannehill created $11 million in salary-cap space by turning most of his $17.45 million base salary into a signing bonus. With the restructure, $16.7 million will be turned into a signing bonus and Tannehill will get the rest ($775,000) as his base salary in 2018.

The good news for the Dolphins is that they can now spread out the new bonus of $16.7 million over the life of Tannehill's contract, which means the team will taking a $5.57 million cap hit in 2018, 2019 and 2020, instead of taking the entire $16.7 million hit in 2018. The added $5.57 million will be tacked on to the cap hit that Tannehill's already scheduled to take up in all three years.

The one thing we can take away from this restructuring is that there's now a zero-percent chance that the Dolphins will be getting rid of Tannehill this season. Not that they were going to, but with the cap situation now, it would be nearly impossible.

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If I understand it correctly, Tannehill's contract goes through 2020. The end of this season resets the salary cap problem for the Fins wrt the 2019 base salary, which jumps back up to $17.45M.

From what I read related to the OP, he's not willing to redo the contract again now in a situation where they're not keeping him, and that's why he's being cut instead of traded. So what is the difference to the Dolphins in cutting him vs trying to trade him for something of low but non-zero value?

I'm assuming cutting him makes him a free agent, but the Dolphins are still no the hook to pay him the rest of the contract.

The last two or three seasons he's played like a top 10 NFL QB when he's healthy (which unfortunately hasn't been many games)

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The last two or three seasons he's played like a top 10 NFL QB when he's healthy (which unfortunately hasn't been many games)

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Which is shocking consisdering what he's had around him. Very bad offensive lines, never had great running backs, and the only receiver he's had that's worth a damn was Jarvis Landry. I think if he can do well when he gets a shot elsewhere...I'd like to see him in New York or Tampa.

From an nfl perspective he played on a crap team like Johnny, but was able to do a lot more with his chance.
I think Tannehill will get another shot sooner rather than later.

monarch said:

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#17 has more than a few good years left in him; his biggest issue in the NFL was that he played on some mediocre teams.

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Just think if they'd actually given him an offensive line!

And running backs.

And receivers.

Tight ends... A front 7... A secondary... Kickers...

Ahem...

Maybe he'd've just been better off anywhere else (except Cleveland).

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Bunk Moreland said:

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RealTalk said:

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Let's be real...Tannehill is a flop. But he's made a crap ton of money and got a hot wife so he got that going for him.

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Career 63% passer with a 1.64 td/Int ratio thru 6? Years in the league.

That's not all pro or HOF but I think you need to be real. He's not a flop. Flops are Ryan Leaf, jamarcus Russell and (dare I say it) johnny Manziel types.

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He was a top 10 draft pick. Guys drafted that high are expected to be better than average.

And Prescott got better stats than Tannehill and he was a 3rd round pick.

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Dak has been behind a top 3 O-Line, in the same backfield with Zeke, throwing to a HOF tight end for two years and an elite WR this year. Tannehill has never had anything like that on his offenses.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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RealTalk said:

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Let's be real...Tannehill is a flop. But he's made a crap ton of money and got a hot wife so he got that going for him.

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Career 63% passer with a 1.64 td/Int ratio thru 6? Years in the league.

That's not all pro or HOF but I think you need to be real. He's not a flop. Flops are Ryan Leaf, jamarcus Russell and (dare I say it) johnny Manziel types.

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He was a top 10 draft pick. Guys drafted that high are expected to be better than average.

And Prescott got better stats than Tannehill and he was a 3rd round pick.

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Dak was 4th round - but who's counting ????

Laura

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The last two or three seasons he's played like a top 10 NFL QB when he's healthy (which unfortunately hasn't been many games)

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Top 10 QB??? C'mon dude.
He was a CONSISTENTLY bottom 10 QB when he was on the field.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr
And that was when he was healthy.
Bottom 10 QB, but at least he had terrible durability. No way he's getting another starting gig.
Happy that the guy cashed in with a big-money contract, but he's been a disaster for that franchise, and party of the reason it's been a dumpster fire.

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C'mon Texans.......your fallback if Deshaun tears another ACL is Brandon Friggin Weeden.

Do the right thing. Bring Tanny home.

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I would imagine he's looking to go somewhere he can be the starter

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Then he isn't looking for a job in the NFL, IMO. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't seen him make NFL decisions and throws.

Would be a good Brady backup.

The Dolphins have had a pretty much universal reputation as long as Tannehill has been there of not playing very hard or with much heart. A couple of players have left (Landry being the latest one) sayin not very flattering things about him... granted, Landry is a weirdo but the weirdos never bash the really good qb's when they leave a team. There's a lot of evidence that Tannehill isn't much of a leader. Wasn't a big fan of his when he was at a&m either. Always felt like a ton of talent there but zero intensity.

CrottyKid said:

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Would be a good Brady backup.

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I was thinking the same thing. Backup to Brady for a year and then have a chance to start three or four years in New England.

Patriots will take a hard look.

How do you know this?

I'd take Tanny over Eli right now. Wouldnt be surprised if he ended up at JAC, NYG, DEN, CIN, OAK

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Redskins will take just about anybody right now.

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Except Kirk Cousins.

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I'd take Tanny over Eli right now. Wouldnt be surprised if he ended up at JAC, NYG, DEN, CIN, OAK

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Hes jot going to CIN. That would put him in the same mess he left behind in Miami.

Terrible O-line and thin recieving corps. Tanny and Dalton are in the same boat IMO, both good enough to do well given the right tools, but never really having them. Tannehill wouldnt really bring any more to the table than Dalton.

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How do you know this?

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They have played twice every year and Ryan has had great success against them. The Pats love smart players and BB has been very complimentary of Ryan. He's their kind of player.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article222783070.html

I like Ryan and wish him the best but the Miami Herald disagrees.

Tanny will make a good backup to some good QB in the league.

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jja79 said:

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How do you know this?

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They have played twice every year and Ryan has had great success against them. The Pats love smart players and BB has been very complimentary of Ryan. He's their kind of player.

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Ryan would be a good transition QB between Brady and their next franchise guy. Could win a SB or two.

any money coming to him if he is released? If so, how much?