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Did we really load up a Howitzer on a train and take it to Baylor?

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Champ Bailey said:

My grandpa always told me about how some kid in the 20's got hit in the head with a folding chair at Kyle field during a game with Baylor.

The cadets got furious and tried to kill the Baylor ahole then and there on the field, but the band started playing the National Anthem to calm everyone down.

Then the cadets got good and drunk about it, and decided to load up a stolen train with a Howitzer that we had and take it to shellack Waco.

He had told me the only reason we stopped is because the Texas Rangers had gotten the parents of the murdered cadet to plead the Aggies to stop.

And that is why we didn't have a Corps Trip to Waco for nearly 70 years.

Any truth to this?
I heard that story when I was a cadet, and have told it myself many times.

But, I think it's myth based, perhaps, on a glimmer of truth.

Several have done research on it and have never found anyone who reliably was a witness or participant, and there is nothing in any newspaper of the times.

I've wondered about it many times and have concluded that there may have been a number of cadets who boarded the train at the old train station, that train destined to go to, or pass through Waco, and when they disembarked somewhere, perhaps even in Waco itself, were met by police who detained them, and sent them packing on the next southbound train.

Even that may be more than what actually happened. It may just be a story. After all, people from Texas NEVER tell tall tales, do we?

All that said, I would love for it to be true. But, sadly, I don't think it is.
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Duckhook said:

chip5897 said:

My dad (62') tells the same story. He also says some Ags stole the bear once. Druged it, and put it in the back of their car, but the drugs wore off and the bear tore them up. Not sure if its ture, but sure is funny to hear!

It is true. My dad, who passed away earlier this year, was part of it and told me the story. I included a reference to it in his obituary. It really tore the car up more than any of the people involved, according to him.
Yes, that is true. The bear tore up the trunk and the backseat, but I don't think any of the cadets were injured.
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PabloSerna said:

LOL.. you got me there! an ef'n mule train!!


It had wheels so we hooked it up to a 6 mule train and started pulling it northeast
91AggieLawyer
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Why such local animosity to the Corps?

Not so much the Corps specifically, although since the hostilities go back decades, it pretty much involved only the Corps then. Anyway the root of the issue is Baylor guys think the Aggies have "stolen" too many of "their" women over the years. It isn't sports related (other than the fight/cadet killed), although games are where we find a large group of people on both sides and emotions being stirred up.
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91AggieLawyer said:

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Why such local animosity to the Corps?

Not so much the Corps specifically, although since the hostilities go back decades, it pretty much involved only the Corps then. Anyway the root of the issue is Baylor guys think the Aggies have "stolen" too many of "their" women over the years. It isn't sports related (other than the fight/cadet killed), although games are where we find a large group of people on both sides and emotions being stirred up.



It wasn't just Baylor it was all of the other schools as well. Back then times were different. All the way up through the 60s, Girls were going to school. To find a husband, and back then nothing said husband material as much as a man in uniform
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Aggiebrewer said:

Texags should make a movie about this.



Dead cadet played by Vader, mallard etc

let's hope it's better than the last movie they made.
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http://www.thebatt.com/news/clubs-cannons-and-football/article_aa6a43dc-a0ab-11e6-8658-b72a7dd99771.html

Good article from The Batt that details the incident with Baylor citing archived documents from Cushing. Also, interestingly, archivist from Corps Center indicated it appeared to be Sessums younger brother with plan to take cannon to BU but that plan was stopped by other corps members before it went anywhere.
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Now that these stories have been vetted, what about another. Does anyone know about the story where some sips tried to light bonfire early? I had heard that they tried to drop a Molotov cocktail from a plane. It seemed far fetched and sounded like it could have been derived from stories of 5 o'clock Charlie.
91AggieLawyer
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It wasn't just Baylor it was all of the other schools as well.

I agree, but Baylor was the closest and probably had one of the better female/male ratios of any other school in Texas. Plus, I attended Baylor, a community college and UTA for a short time prior to A&M; nowhere did I hear the "pre-wed" program jokes as strongly as at Baylor.
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Wait, the howitzer never made it up there? I thought it did and that the subsequent shelling was why Waco looks the way it does.
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Champ Bailey said:

My grandpa always told me about how some kid in the 20's got hit in the head with a folding chair at Kyle field during a game with Baylor.

The cadets got furious and tried to kill the Baylor ahole then and there on the field, but the band started playing the National Anthem to calm everyone down.

Then the cadets got good and drunk about it, and decided to load up a stolen train with a Howitzer that we had and take it to shellack Waco.

He had told me the only reason we stopped is because the Texas Rangers had gotten the parents of the murdered cadet to plead the Aggies to stop.

And that is why we didn't have a Corps Trip to Waco for nearly 70 years.

Any truth to this?
That's about the 6th version of that story I've heard.
Jim Benson 63
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I did an extensive amount of research on this issue back in 1962 in the Cushing library. There is no doubt A Cadet was killed during a football game in Waco in October 1926. I never could find any confirmation of A train being loaded up with a howitzer and Horse drawn artillery
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aggiejim70 said:

I'm gonna run through this again. If I could wave my magic maroon wand and get rid of two things, it would be this story and squeezing. This never happened, it's a bourbon legend. I'm old enough to have known lots of Aggies from classes in the 20's.
I never came across a one that did anything but laugh
that this story wouldn't die. Think about people, stealing artillery and commandeering a train are not good bull college pranks, they put you on the pen years for that. The cadet getting killed at the Baylor game was front page news all over the state. This would have been true if the Rangers hade to stop strain. I defy you to find any mention of it in any archive of any Texas newspaper. Let it go people, it never happened.


I believe Mr. Jeter...
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http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/lariat/id/30285/rec/150
WRTS
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My dad, class of '42, told me the same story. I'm sure parts have been embellished as the myth grew, but I've always believed the basic story was true.
ag94ag
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Real man **** right there!! No going on social media and talking noise.

Just load up a Howitzer and pound a MF'ing campus.

CatmanBoo
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This gets brought up once a month, I swear. Use the search dumarse
Maroon from the womb.
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aggiejim70 said:

I'm gonna run through this again. If I could wave my magic maroon wand and get rid of two things, it would be this story and squeezing. This never happened, it's a bourbon legend. I'm old enough to have known lots of Aggies from classes in the 20's.
I never came across a one that did anything but laugh
that this story wouldn't die. Think about people, stealing artillery and commandeering a train are not good bull college pranks, they put you on the pen years for that. The cadet getting killed at the Baylor game was front page news all over the state. This would have been true if the Rangers hade to stop strain. I defy you to find any mention of it in any archive of any Texas newspaper. Let it go people, it never happened.
Blue starred for bourbon legend... but I want that story to be true.
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CatmanBoo said:

This gets brought up once a month, I swear. Use the search dumarse


It looks like he did.
45-70Ag
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i have a subscription to newspapers.com and i can't find anything about cadets attempting to shell the Baylor campus.

But, in looking for something i have been amazed how many cadets were killed on campus in various accidents ranging from getting thrown off a horse and having the horse crush a kids skull to an accidental discharge in formation.
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According to urban legend, a group of Aggie students returned to College Station after the fight, picked up a cannon and put it on a train headed for Waco with plans to demolish the campus. They were stopped by the Texas Rangers, according to the myth.

But Chapman said he has doubts about that story.

"There is no evidence that that actually happened," he said.

He said he's been unable to find any documents or press clippings from the time that confirm that story. Plus, he said, there wasn't a train route from Waco to College Station at that time.
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I bet there was a train route from Waco to College Station. I know there were a lot of women who traveled on trains to A&M for the dances they held.

My mom told me stories about this when she was a student at AMC during the 1930s.
Yes, my mom was an Aggie.
Leander - Ag
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My grandfather (Baylor grad) would tell me that story growing up. He did not care for the Ags.

He also told me my great grandfather (Ag) was one of the crew that branded 13-10 / Bevo. Not sure if this story is true ....
PlanetAggie
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Texags Post from 2005
45-70Ag
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The Baylor student paper
You can guess how it reads

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getdownloaditem/collection/lariat/id/30283/filename/33076.pdf/mapsto/pdf
jimmo
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My daddy told me me the story when I was about ten..
I had commented that Baylor didn't seem 'that bad', compared to tu...
He then let me know about the fight and how the Baylor folk had several suitcases
around the field. When the fight broke out, the baptist used iron pipes that they
had brought in those suitcases...
He was Class of '27. (and was known to embellish a good tale on occasion)
ag-bq-seventy
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MidTnAg said:

I bet there was a train route from Waco to College Station. I know there were a lot of women who traveled on trains to A&M for the dances they held.

My mom told me stories about this when she was a student at AMC during the 1930s.
Yes, my mom was an Aggie.
My guess is that she's referring to the Texas Women's College girls coming to dances. They used to come to campus at least once a year for dances. The photo archive at Cushing has many pictures of the cadets meeting the train at the old train stop at West Gate.

We used to have a very close relationship to that school and would have annual "pig scrambles" in Dallas or Ft. Worth for the Corps trip games there. I went to a pig scramble in 1966 and got a date for the game the next day. She "had a nice personality." But, I was desperate; we had VERY few women on the A&M campus.
aggiejim70
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And the story of how you ran off and left your fish buddies that night will probably last longer than this idiot howitzer story!
The person that is not willing to fight and die, if need be, for his country has no right to life.

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January 31, 1945
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Really? That is so old.
Ogre09
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South Platte said:

I was a freshman at Baylor in 1993. I know the corps was there but can't remember if the full band was. I had friends in the corps that I saw at the game. It was a fairly forgetful game on both the field and in the stands, as I don't recall anything disruptive happening. I don't remember anything mentioned on campus about the corps. I actually didn't even know the corps didn't go to Waco for 70 years until I read this post, so this hearing about this for the first time is bizarre. My long time friend was a Ross Volunteer and never mentioned anything about this . . . .

Hopefully we can play a football series in the future. I miss playing A&M.


**** Baylor!
 
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