My grandpa always told me about how some kid in the 20's got hit in the head with a folding chair at Kyle field during a game with Baylor.

The cadets got furious and tried to kill the Baylor ahole then and there on the field, but the band started playing the National Anthem to calm everyone down.

Then the cadets got good and drunk about it, and decided to load up a stolen train with a Howitzer that we had and take it to shellack Waco.

He had told me the only reason we stopped is because the Texas Rangers had gotten the parents of the murdered cadet to plead the Aggies to stop.

And that is why we didn't have a Corps Trip to Waco for nearly 70 years.

Any truth to this?

So I've heard (or something similar)

Next time someone pulls the Old Army or Redass out their a**, remind them of this story.

If only they had completed their mission, many women would have been spared from rape.

Yes we did

I heard the Texas rangers cut trees down on the tracks to stop the train.

Never heard about the dead cadet, i heard it was over a football game.

We should have been allowed to shell Waco!

And that's exactly what we're gonna do to 'em, Ags!!!

The fight, where the cadet died, happened in Waco at a game in 1926.

Who Killed Cadet Sessums

this would be a great recruiting tool

MTAggie said:

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The fight, where the cadet died, happened in Waco at a game in 1926.

Who Killed Cadet Sessums

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The details have been argued but, essentially, the story goes like this: On Waco's old Cotton Palace field, Baylor students spoofed Aggie tradition, angry cadets roughed up some Baylor women they thought to be men in drag, and the fight was on.

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Mark Fairchild said:

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We should have been allowed to shell Waco!

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It would've been an improvement.

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And that is why we didn't have a Corps Trip to Waco for nearly 70 years.

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Are you sure the reason was not simply because Waco sucks?

My dad (62') tells the same story. He also says some Ags stole the bear once. Druged it, and put it in the back of their car, but the drugs wore off and the bear tore them up. Not sure if its ture, but sure is funny to hear!

I'm gonna run through this again. If I could wave my magic maroon wand and get rid of two things, it would be this story and squeezing. This never happened, it's a bourbon legend. I'm old enough to have known lots of Aggies from classes in the 20's.
I never came across a one that did anything but laugh
that this story wouldn't die. Think about people, stealing artillery and commandeering a train are not good bull college pranks, they put you on the pen years for that. The cadet getting killed at the Baylor game was front page news all over the state. This would have been true if the Rangers hade to stop strain. I defy you to find any mention of it in any archive of any Texas newspaper. Let it go people, it never happened.

We did the first Corps trip back to Waco in 95 I believe. The city was in an uproar, including an call to fire the mayor because the city government gave the Corps a permit to have a parade through town.
By far the worst I was ever treated at an away game. Including stores and gas stations with signs saying Cadets weren't welcome.

I think the Baylor frats still have something where they patrol the campus with axe handles the night before home games, or something such thing. Probably an excuse to beat pledges with axe handles if I had to guess.

chip5897 said:

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My dad (62') tells the same story. He also says some Ags stole the bear once. Druged it, and put it in the back of their car, but the drugs wore off and the bear tore them up. Not sure if its ture, but sure is funny to hear!

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I heard the same story

I heard the Association paid for half of the mission cost.

aggiejim70 said:

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I'm gonna run through this again. If I could wave my magic maroon wand and get rid of two things, it would be this story and squeezing. This never happened, it's a bourbon legend. I'm old enough to have known lots of Aggies from classes in the 20's.
I never came across a one that did anything but laugh
that this story wouldn't die. Think about people, stealing artillery and commandeering a train are not good bull college pranks, they put you on the pen years for that. The cadet getting killed at the Baylor game was front page news all over the state. This would have been true if the Rangers hade to stop strain. I defy you to find any mention of it in any archive of any Texas newspaper. Let it go people, it never happened.

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Kind of what I was thinking. I have no knowledge whatsoever of what did or didn't happen, but stealing. A damn train!!?!?!? And loading it with a damn howitzer!?!?!?!? No way you wouldn't be able to find some concrete evidence of that somewhere.

chip5897 said:

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My dad (62') tells the same story. He also says some Ags stole the bear once. Druged it, and put it in the back of their car, but the drugs wore off and the bear tore them up. Not sure if its ture, but sure is funny to hear!

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It's true. Good friend '54 was in the car - took it back to Waco and tied it to a tree - then called police or somebody to pick it up . wasn't drugged but was young.

I don't have time to check but I am pretty sure the Waco and train incident can be found in the A&M archives as I recall looking it up in the Centennial history in 1976.

For a second, I thought you were suggesting the underlying incident never occurred. I see now you're merely talking about the story about shelling Waco. We used to hear it back in my day, but never seen any proof it actually occurred. Without a doubt bad blood and IIRC we actually stopped playing for a bit.

A good friend of mine (now deceased) was actually a younger kid in Waco when the indicdent happened and said he was at the game. He never mentioned the howitzer on a train and didn't recall that happening, but he recalled the melee.

Maybe Randolph Duke can tell us about the authenticity of this story?

from the 1951 Aggieland (they indicate the Baylor fight happened in 1922, which is not true)

CT'97 said:

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We did the first Corps trip back to Waco in 95 I believe. The city was in an uproar, including an call to fire the mayor because the city government gave the Corps a permit to have a parade through town.
By far the worst I was ever treated at an away game. Including stores and gas stations with signs saying Cadets weren't welcome.

I think the Baylor frats still have something where they patrol the campus with axe handles the night before home games, or something such thing. Probably an excuse to beat pledges with axe handles if I had to guess.

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Why such local animosity to the Corps? Were all the residents of Waco Texags non-regs?

1926 paper, recalling the game from the day before

Top/Center and Bottom/Right

ABattJudd said:

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CT'97 said:

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We did the first Corps trip back to Waco in 95 I believe. The city was in an uproar, including an call to fire the mayor because the city government gave the Corps a permit to have a parade through town.
By far the worst I was ever treated at an away game. Including stores and gas stations with signs saying Cadets weren't welcome.

I think the Baylor frats still have something where they patrol the campus with axe handles the night before home games, or something such thing. Probably an excuse to beat pledges with axe handles if I had to guess.

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Why such local animosity to the Corps? Were all the residents of Waco Texags non-regs?

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I would imagine it was a lot of things, at that time we were mopping the floor with Baylor and there was a lot of bad feelings but I distinctly remember it being drawn back to the cadet being killed and the fight that ensued.

I have often suspected this was a classic barracks tail that seniors told freshmen and then it just grew. I have no doubt the cadets wanted to seek revenge for a fallen friend. I don't imagine it went beyond that but when you tell that to a fish, then four years later they tell their fish and add something about being stopped by someone and so on and so on. The next thing you know the story is the Texas Rangers are being called to stop a train full of cadets with artillery intent on shelling Waco.

aggiejim70 said:

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I'm gonna run through this again. If I could wave my magic maroon wand and get rid of two things, it would be this story and squeezing. This never happened, it's a bourbon legend. I'm old enough to have known lots of Aggies from classes in the 20's.
I never came across a one that did anything but laugh
that this story wouldn't die. Think about people, stealing artillery and commandeering a train are not good bull college pranks, they put you on the pen years for that. The cadet getting killed at the Baylor game was front page news all over the state. This would have been true if the Rangers hade to stop strain. I defy you to find any mention of it in any archive of any Texas newspaper. Let it go people, it never happened.

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Next thing you're going to tell me is that Patton didn't actually declare that Aggies are the best soldiers in the history of warfare.

ABATTBQ87 said:

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from the 1951 Aggieland (they indicate the Baylor fight happened in 1922, which is not true)

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CJS4715 said:

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I heard the Association paid for half of the mission cost.

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Blue star for you, sir.

Champ Bailey said:

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He had told me the only reason we stopped is because the Texas Rangers had gotten the parents of the murdered cadet to plead the Aggies to stop.

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So the parents were communicating with the cadets while they were driving the train in 1920's? Quick Google search shows that technology wasn't available in 1920's. First paragraph:
http://www.progressiverailroading.com/c_s/article/Two-way-radio-technology-for-rail-applications--40016

Also, if the Texas Rangers knew about this, couldn't they have just waited along the tracks then followed the train until it stopped to fire and arrested the cadets?

People who claim this story to be true are either morons or they are trolling you.

Champ Bailey said:

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My grandpa always told me about how some kid in the 20's got hit in the head with a folding chair at Kyle field during a game with Baylor.

The cadets got furious and tried to kill the Baylor ahole then and there on the field, but the band started playing the National Anthem to calm everyone down.

Then the cadets got good and drunk about it, and decided to load up a stolen train with a Howitzer that we had and take it to shellack Waco.

He had told me the only reason we stopped is because the Texas Rangers had gotten the parents of the murdered cadet to plead the Aggies to stop.

And that is why we didn't have a Corps Trip to Waco for nearly 70 years.

Any truth to this?

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Grew up with the same story but with much more color.

AgGrad99 said:

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1926 paper, recalling the game from the day before

Top/Center and Bottom/Right

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That's the baylor university news paper.

Journalistic Ethics had only been around 20 years at that point. Do you honestly believe this was a high quality written article?

I would like to see other articles written on the event.

It's not an article. Just an account of events at the time.