That's a lie

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jxs40 said:

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I guess TexAgs has finally made it to the big leagues when Soros' bots bother to post here

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Why/How would Soros benefit from the removal of net neutrality?

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Because Hillary, or something.

Humm

net neutrality

ISPs that want to have their cake and eat it too

NPH and Goose.

This isn't football so not sure why we're debating here but You are missing the point. If you built cable facilities for the use of individuals to share at same price and one of you morons was constantly streaming movies or hosting gaming services the telcos and cable companies would have to build more facilities so casual users like me would stop complaining about slow speeds.

Eliminating Net Neutrality solves this. These companies aren't going to screw over the average user; they will protect us poors from abusers.

Content providers and wired / wireless telecoms are increasingly merging - net neutrality is crucial.

so you woud rather pay for package deals like cable to access certain sites? cause thats where this will 100% head

jxs40 said:

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I guess TexAgs has finally made it to the big leagues when Soros' bots bother to post here

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Never been over to forum 16 have you?

MrAbyss said:

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so you woud rather pay for package deals like cable to access certain sites? cause thats where this will 100% head

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Because this is what it was like before net neut? Funny I don't remember that.

Telecoms already have the ability to bifurcate speeds based on total data use and charge a premium for "abusers." This is about Verizon having the regulatory ability to incrementally reduce speeds to Google, when it just purchased Yahoo! (for example).

Go back to your abyss; the sky ain't falling

isnt that what everyone says before the sky falls lol?

I hope it doesnt happen, and i would like to think it cant but companies do love new ways to make more beautiful munnies.

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isnt that what everyone says before the sky falls lol?

I hope it doesnt happen, and i would like to think it cant but companies do love new ways to make more beautiful munnies.

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You're right, we should trust Trump to manage a highly complex, dynamic technology marketplace instead. Great plan dude.

That's as silly as the DOJ's argument that att/TW will stop selling HBO on all the other competitors services. If these companies throttled speed to these mega companies (Google, Netflix, etc) customers would switch to a non-throttler.

Unless of course they all colude with each other and that's so unlikely with all the class action attorneys just waiting to make a billion!

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You're right, we should trust Trump to manage a highly complex, dynamic technology marketplace instead. Great plan dude.

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I need to read up more on this i think, i think ive sorely misunderstood what it is lol. I thought net neutrality kept the govs hands off of the internet. Im of the thought group of " i dont want anyone touching the internet. Keep that ish as free as possible"

Aggiebrewer said:

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Net neutrality is the devil

Yall better get edumacated on it

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Dammit brew

Texas300Mag said:

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That's as silly as the DOJ's argument that att/TW will stop selling HBO on all the other competitors services. If these companies throttled speed to these mega companies (Google, Netflix, etc) customers would switch to a non-throttler.

Unless of course they all colude with each other and that's so unlikely with all the class action attorneys just waiting to make a billion!

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Exactly. It's amazing how people don't understand competition in the free market. If someone says we're making your Netflix slower, people will leave. For those in rural areas that don't have choice, they can use their LTE services. Hell, T-Mobile is providing free Netflix now and they are competitive with the big 3 in most small towns now. If both their local internet provider and the cell provider are screwing the same website, chances are everyone else is too. Then come the collusion lawsuits as referenced above.

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NPH and Goose.

This isn't football so not sure why we're debating here but You are missing the point. If you built cable facilities for the use of individuals to share at same price and one of you morons was constantly streaming movies or hosting gaming services the telcos and cable companies would have to build more facilities so casual users like me would stop complaining about slow speeds.

Eliminating Net Neutrality solves this. These companies aren't going to screw over the average user; they will protect us poors from abusers.

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Yeah yours right on the broadband speeds but I don't think you see the big picture. Elimating net neutrality gives the broadband provides the power to slow down competitor's websites and encourage us to use there's ( if you have Verizon say goodbye to google, bc they want to have you use yahoo who they just bought out). It also lets this company's add in subscription packages on certain areas of the internet you can acccess. So now you pay $30 for internet plus $8 or more for each package you wanted like social, streaming video, streaming music, and email and ect .

If you're pissed about your broadband speed then I was just pay for a better provider if you can who can accommodate for those jerks. With net neutrality we put the burden on the suppliers, these companies have to be innovated and offer resonable prices in order to attract costumers. Besides its not like they're all going bankrupt these companies have huge profit margins.

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Texas300Mag said:

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NPH and Goose.

This isn't football so not sure why we're debating here but You are missing the point. If you built cable facilities for the use of individuals to share at same price and one of you morons was constantly streaming movies or hosting gaming services the telcos and cable companies would have to build more facilities so casual users like me would stop complaining about slow speeds.

Eliminating Net Neutrality solves this. These companies aren't going to screw over the average user; they will protect us poors from abusers.

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Yeah yours right on the broadband speeds but I don't think you see the big picture. Elimating net neutrality gives the broadband provides the power to slow down competitor's websites and encourage us to use there's ( if you have Verizon say goodbye to google, bc they want to have you use yahoo who they just bought out). It also lets this company's add in subscription packages on certain areas of the internet you can acccess. So now you pay $30 for internet plus $8 or more for each package you wanted like social, streaming video, streaming music, and email and ect .

If you're pissed about your broadband speed then I was just pay for a better provider if you can who can accommodate for those jerks. With net neutrality we put the burden on the suppliers, these companies have to be innovated and offer resonable prices in order to attract costumers. Besides its not like they're all going bankrupt these companies have huge profit margins.

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This is the narrative created to scare. What do you think Verizon people would do if google really was neutered by their provider? You think they would just take it? Hell no. It doesn't work that way. Not when you can just switch to att or T-Mobile.

And that packaging system could become reality, but you think it would really work? It would take every provider doing it at he same time or they would lose every customer they have.

Regulation does not force competition and innovation, it suppresses it.

These companies are 99% the same. If something is bad for Verizon, it will be bad for AT&T, etc. With the Netflix example, they will both have the opportunity to incrementally limit or charge for over the top content providers like Netflix. That is how the free market will react because Netflix is a threat to both companies, not just one or the other.

Eliminating net neutrality is nothing more than to continue empowering telecoms, which are acquisitive and already highly levered. All of which are really good for the telecom stakeholders, generating legal fees, and generating banking and capital market fees.

I'm getting a free year of Netflix through Suddenlink. They don't seem to be too concerned about the competition. NN just increases costs and reduces our freedoms. I don't know why so many people support it.

You don't know what you're talking about

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NOTHING WILL CHANGE YOU IDIOTS.

Because net neutrality was a non solution to a nonexistent problem. A bunch of huge corporations rent seeking, with an administration looking for any reason to expand their regulatory reach.

Don't be a bunch of gullible fools.

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Nothing will change? Is that why the TeleComs have lobbied to reverse it? Cuz it's meaningless? If you want to see gullible, look in the mirror.

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Jack Cheese said:

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NOTHING WILL CHANGE YOU IDIOTS.

Because net neutrality was a non solution to a nonexistent problem. A bunch of huge corporations rent seeking, with an administration looking for any reason to expand their regulatory reach.

Don't be a bunch of gullible fools.

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Nothing will change? Is that why the TeleComs have lobbied to reverse it? Cuz it's meaningless? If you want to see gullible, look in the mirror.

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And big companies lobbied to get the government involved in the first place (as well as getting gullible people like you to follow along with their PR campaign). Please. This was a play at rent seeking by one set of large web-based businesses against other large companies. The federal government (aka Donald frickin Trump) has no business applying public utilities regulations to a market that is far more complex and dynamic than they have the ability to manage.

There's a reason the limits of authority and intentions of the FCC are so opaque... They can't begin to anticipate who wins and loses once they stick their regulatory blunt instruments into this mess.

There were no good guys when net neutrality was lobbied into existence by large corporations, there are no good guys now. Trust me, this non problem they ginned up was not hindering small companies or individuals before net neut, and no one will be hurt by the government politely recognizing they have NO ROLE HERE and bowing out.