What bunch of dumb remarks. You are just as bad as the bozo from the BOR.

The odds are improving

TMartin said:

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Not as likely since Sumlin's wife went public with "the letter." Sumlin can afford a good agent/lawyer.

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He's going to get a $10MM buyout so what exactly is he going to sue for? Unless we fire him with cause, I see no reason why Sumlin would sue.

And I see no benefit of firing him mid-season unless we have a permanent replacement for him on the current staff.

You guys don't remember what happened with Arky and John L. Smith? That was a big ol' clusterfk.

RealTalk said:

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And I see no benefit of firing him mid-season unless we have a permanent replacement for him on the current staff.

You guys don't remember what happened with Arky and John L. Smith? That was a big ol' clusterfk.

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The benefit of firing a coach before the end of the season is from a recruiting standpoint. The recruits that are currently "committed" to A&M know that Sumlin is likely a lame duck coach. If we let go of him before season's end, then we can give the kids some hope that we are committed to improving things.

HowdyTAMU said:

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Have the BMAs even agreed on a priority order for our new coach? Doubtful, as they seem more interested in winning debates than winning games.

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What happens when you start getting old and your balls and your ***** start to shrink men with money start fighting for power and control even more because they're pissed they're losing their manhood. Therefor ****ty results wiith BMAs

99%

0% chance and I'll give you 3 reasons:
The letter makes it a difficult thing legally to fire him.
We are dealing with injuries to key players that give him a plausible excuse for losing or underperforming.
John Sharp is busy rebuilding Texas after Harvey and does not have time for this BS right now.

Wouldnt be surprised to see him still here next year.

dude95 said:

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So you fire him mid season..then what? Do you guys have more faith in our coordinators to take over? I'd be fine if one side of the ball was stinking it up and we were good with the other. Same if there was a coach who we thought could help us limp to the end. As a pretty big Sumlin supporter, I concede at the end of the year he is gone. just don't see a reason to do it now ....i don't have any faith it will make anything better.

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I think Jeff Banks would be interesting.

I think he gets fired after we lose to Bama 100-0 at home.

Gigem713 said:

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The letter makes it a difficult thing legally to fire him.

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There are ten million reasons why it is not.

I do not believe he will be fired before the LSU game.

I do not believe this team will have a record as good as 6-6.

I do not believe in Santa Claus.
(but I often wish I did)

As I stated on Saturday, he will be gone by Bye Week.

#IAmTheNewRojo

Realtalk, I don't think you are familiar with civil rights law or employment discrimination litigation. I am not either but I understand the potential for this to look very ugly. I like KDS and I have been one of his biggest supporters on this website. He is not perfect and we are all disappointed by that but I think a lot of people on this website would be disappointed with anyone who did not have an undefeated season. KDS is a good man and has done a fine job of putting together competitive teams (with some stumbles here and there) and is a leader that has helped his kids grow both as men and as players.

Is someone would get off their ass and call Bob Stoops now, he could be here in time to coach against Ark!

I don't thin we will can him mid season, but does anyone think he will make it to next year? If not, Get Stoops now, and secure some recruits!

there are NO excuses for failure in year 6

Gigem713 said:

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Realtalk, I don't think you are familiar with civil rights law or employment discrimination litigation. I am not either but I understand the potential for this to look very ugly. I like KDS and I have been one of his biggest supporters on this website. He is not perfect and we are all disappointed by that but I think a lot of people on this website would be disappointed with anyone who did not have an undefeated season. KDS is a good man and has done a fine job of putting together competitive teams (with some stumbles here and there) and is a leader that has helped his kids grow both as men and as players.

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He received a derogatory letter from an anonymous person and all of a sudden he's untouchable? Sht, if that's true and I was a coach that's on the hot seat, I'll write that damn letter myself.

A&M has paid him $30MM+ and he'll get another $10MM if we fire him and that screams discrimination?

We fired Emory Bellard in the middle of the 78 season after getting shut out by Houston and losing at home to a winless Baylor team (who burned the red shirt on Walter Abercrombie). Tom Wilson took over, broke the wishbone and threw deep on his first play against Rice.

RDV-1992 said:

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There is 0% chance he is fired prior to the conclusion of the regular season.

There is an 80% chance is he fired at the conclusion of the regular season.

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I'll take the over on both.

Gigem713 said:

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Realtalk, I don't think you are familiar with civil rights law or employment discrimination litigation. I am not either but I understand the potential for this to look very ugly. I like KDS and I have been one of his biggest supporters on this website. He is not perfect and we are all disappointed by that but I think a lot of people on this website would be disappointed with anyone who did not have an undefeated season. KDS is a good man and has done a fine job of putting together competitive teams (with some stumbles here and there) and is a leader that has helped his kids grow both as men and as players.

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Oh, FFS

We can fire him for any reason.

His contract is guaranteed. If we chose to move on, we get to move.

He still gets paid either way.

No discrimination involved. His record, his lack of in conference success, etc. is more than justification to send him packing.

merch said:

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It is quite possible he lays a big enough egg to get fired mid season. If Bama beats by 50 how can he be the coach the next day.

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Because Bama's already beaten us by 50 and he was the coach for the next 900+ days (or so - and no, I didn't count).

Edit: **** it's coming up on 3 years, so 1000+ "next day's" and counting.

People who think it will be difficult to fire Sumlin because of "the letter" have no idea what they are talking about.

redsnapper101 said:

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Is someone would get off their ass and call Bob Stoops now, he could be here in time to coach against Ark!

I don't thin we will can him mid season, but does anyone think he will make it to next year? If not, Get Stoops now, and secure some recruits!

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What ****** would quit their dream job because they're burned out/want to retire to immediately take a much crappier job here they'd have to work even harder just to be marginally competitive?

Does anyone seriously think Stoops would come here? Even just to cash checks? He doesn't seem like the Spurrier type who'd just treat the gig as semi-retirement.

We didn't fire Emory Bellard in the middle of the season, he resigned on his own.

Barring a total cluster**** game, he'll be here until the end of the year. Regardless, I suspect conversations are already underway with potential replacements. On a contingent basis, of course.

Not our style, so I would say less than 5%

Boosters have already been contacting agents to ascertain interest. Wheels are in motion

Gigem713 said:

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Realtalk, I don't think you are familiar with civil rights law or employment discrimination litigation. I am not either but I understand the potential for this to look very ugly. I like KDS and I have been one of his biggest supporters on this website. He is not perfect and we are all disappointed by that but I think a lot of people on this website would be disappointed with anyone who did not have an undefeated season. KDS is a good man and has done a fine job of putting together competitive teams (with some stumbles here and there) and is a leader that has helped his kids grow both as men and as players.

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You sound just like the dullards that wanted LSU to keep Les Miles. Sumlin might be a nice guy, but he doesn't develop athletes and he doesn't win football games. You can hire a Scout leader for less than $5 million.

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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He'll be here until LSU bashes our teeth in. They won't fire him until then. Zero chance he's gone mid season.

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Why wait until LSU...University of Louisiana L might handle LSU's light weight.

Word(s) of warning: Once this all goes down (barring a major freak finish for a 9-3 record even then I think Sumlin leaves) and new staff is hired, be prepared to endure a couple of losing seasons and rebirth of tu prominence.

He won't be fired mid-season because we don't have a single coach on our staff who could perform as an interim.

The reason for firming the coach mid-season is to send a message to those in the organization, primarily the players and potential recruits, that the current level of productivity and organizational direction is unacceptable and a change is being made. When the elephant is in the room to this extent, it fosters feelings of uncertainty. Uncertainty breeds apathy, malaise, discontent, and negativity of all kinds. You don want that festering any longer than necessary.

lets see how we do against Arkansas and South Carolina first... if we go into Bama week 4-1 and have the QB situation ironed out then we still have a chance for a decent season.