Hardest play to defend besides being athletically superior and running iso over and over is the "mesh" play with a semi-mobile QB. Where two inside slot receivers run crossing routes 2-3 yards deep across the face of the LBs and stop anywhere b/t 2-3 yards within (inside or out, typically outside) the hash marks, flashing their numbers to the QB for a half a second. After flashing they continue their routes to the side lines. If play is extended they turn up field when hitting the side line.

This stresses the LBs more than a well timed play action. A RB could stay for pass protection and after 2 seconds flash to flat or stay in pp. the outside receivers clear safety's and corners with a post or vertical. Thoughts? Flame on.

Doc Daneeka said:

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Hardest play to defend besides being athletically superior and running iso over and over is the "mesh" play with a semi-mobile QB. Where two inside slot receivers run crossing routes 2-3 yards deep across the face of the LBs and stop anywhere b/t 2-3 yards within (inside or out, typically outside) the hash marks, flashing their numbers to the QB for a half a second. After flashing they continue their routes to the side lines. If play is extended they turn up field when hitting the side line.

This stresses the LBs more than a well timed play action. A RB could stay for pass protection and after 2 seconds flash to flat or stay in pp. the outside receivers clear safety's and corners with a post or vertical. Thoughts? Flame on.

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Not hard at all with LB's who are coached well. WR are allowed to get hit within the first 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. When LB's see crossing routes, they just re-route them by knocking them off the route, thus defending the play.

I totally agree with the comeback route, but would also add a good smoke draw on 3rd and 22.

The hardest play to defend is the triple option when run by Mike Mosely, George Woodard and Curtis Dickey.

Dr. Watson said:

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Point being, and I've said this for years, that the hardest route to defend is a come-back when the CB's back is turned.

Almost every CB will have his back turned at some point when you are running a vertical route in man coverage.

When the receiver stops and comes back, he will almost ALWAYS have a huge advantage on the defender.

It's time we start using this a bit more.

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Sounds great, now all we need are receivers that are:
Quick & Strong enough to beat man coverage.
Fast enough to get the CB chasing.
Good route runners to not tell their breaks.

Also, we need a QB that has good anticipation to throw before the receiver breaks and he has to be accurate.

Second hardest play to defend is the rugby inbound play where receivers pick up another receiver to like ten feet in the air and the QB throws a high lollipop to him. Still haven't found where this is illegal

emando2000 said:

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Dr. Watson said:

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Point being, and I've said this for years, that the hardest route to defend is a come-back when the CB's back is turned.

Almost every CB will have his back turned at some point when you are running a vertical route in man coverage.

When the receiver stops and comes back, he will almost ALWAYS have a huge advantage on the defender.

It's time we start using this a bit more.

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Sounds great, now all we need are receivers that are:
Quick & Strong enough to beat man coverage.
Fast enough to get the CB chasing.
Good route runners to not tell their breaks.

Also, we need a QB that has good anticipation to throw before the receiver breaks and he has to be accurate.

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This comes from the pre-snap read. QB must recognize which slot receiver will be uncovered and get the ball out QUICK.

the option on the goal line

For our d in recent years its the wheel route.

Latest trend in football has been RPO (run pass option)
Read either the LB or S, then decide what to do. It's very tough to defend, especially since OL work to 2nd level and refs RARELY call lineman downfield.

Dr. Watson said:

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Point being, and I've said this for years, that the hardest route to defend is a come-back when the CB's back is turned.

Almost every CB will have his back turned at some point when you are running a vertical route in man coverage.

When the receiver stops and comes back, he will almost ALWAYS have a huge advantage on the defender.

It's time we start using this a bit more.

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what he said

I know you are asking in general but I always feel helpless when I see LSU's outside zone toss. Killer play.

Smoke draw

TexasAggiesWin said:

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The option to the short side of the field

/Fran

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smoke



draw


/Fran

bubble screen

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Victory formation

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Good point - one of the more difficult plays to defend.

A well executed play. Execution is much, much more important than the actual play itself.

Mesh is a great play against zone or man. The mesh point should be at 6 yards

Texas Tech wheel route

Whatever play the offense is running against our defense

Anything with Johnny playing qb

that's awesome