quote:If they don't run the ball with more effectivness, I'd expect a similar year as last year. Even though Trevor is a Sr, he is going to need the help.
a more realistic answer...
if the Ags lose to UCLA that means either (1) the new o-line was absolutely terrible or (2) Trevor Knight was a turnover machine. Or maybe both. And that would forebode a bad season.
UCLA has a nice team, but the Bruins were 8-5 last year and lost 8 players to the draft. They have holes to fill at certain positions and are talent deficient at others
IF we lose to UCLA
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quote:Why do I have a feeling that if I looked at all the hottie threads, I wouldn't find you telling all the guys advertising they **** girls "straight, whatever...Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it"....
Actually my username has nothing to do with where I live but I don't put a map as my signature with a star denoting the location of my house either. Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home- swing, be gay, whatever.... Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it.
And FWIW, where you apparently live and do is in your profile, field manager from Houston.
Well, more likely advertising they jerk off to girls...
quote:I'm ejecting from this conversation- I just realized I'm giving rainbow and possibly you exactly what you want- attention.quote:Why do I have a feeling that if I looked at all the hottie threads, I wouldn't find you telling all the guys advertising they **** girls "straight, whatever...Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it"....
Actually my username has nothing to do with where I live but I don't put a map as my signature with a star denoting the location of my house either. Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home- swing, be gay, whatever.... Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it.
And FWIW, where you apparently live and do is in your profile, field manager from Houston.
In answer to the question- a loss to UCLA kicks the Herman conversation into high gear. A loss to Auburn 2 games later and negotiations start.
Going to run away because you can't man up to admit you don't like the gays?
And nope, I **** girls and it's fantastic.
And nope, I **** girls and it's fantastic.
quote:Dude what is your problem? I made a post asking a football question.quote:I'm ejecting from this conversation- I just realized I'm giving rainbow and possibly you exactly what you want- attention.quote:Why do I have a feeling that if I looked at all the hottie threads, I wouldn't find you telling all the guys advertising they **** girls "straight, whatever...Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it"....
Actually my username has nothing to do with where I live but I don't put a map as my signature with a star denoting the location of my house either. Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home- swing, be gay, whatever.... Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it.
And FWIW, where you apparently live and do is in your profile, field manager from Houston.
In answer to the question- a loss to UCLA kicks the Herman conversation into high gear. A loss to Auburn 2 games later and negotiations start.
You're the one who started going into a conspiracy theory about how many posts i've made since March, that i'm trolling (by asking a football question on the football board, makes a lot of sense), and you are disturbed that i'm gay.
If anyone was looking for attention it was you.
Have a nice day.
Rainbow, KEEP ON BEING YOU!! Centex, you need to realize the LBGT society at OUR school is bigger than you think, and yes,,. THEY like football and like discussing it from time to time,,,
That said, a loss to UCLA opening day is not devastating,, I think we win but every year is a different day!!
That said, a loss to UCLA opening day is not devastating,, I think we win but every year is a different day!!
Before the world wide web, village idiots stayed in their own village...
It means Tom Herman starts taking official visits in September.
Lose? LOSE? We lose now? We don't get "outscored?" Oh, my how the times have changed!
I came here to post about the OP's question, but after seeing your posts I just want to say that you are a hateful bigot, it's obvious you despise the LBGT community!!
CentexAG is a terrible human and a bigot who wants to keep those who are not like him in the shadows.
RAINBOW, know that people like that are not a true representation of Aggies. I got your back anytime homie!!
And just so we are clear though, I like the chicks
Hang tough.
CentexAG is a terrible human and a bigot who wants to keep those who are not like him in the shadows.
RAINBOW, know that people like that are not a true representation of Aggies. I got your back anytime homie!!
And just so we are clear though, I like the chicks
Hang tough.
quote:quote:I'm ejecting from this conversation- I just realized I'm giving rainbow and possibly you exactly what you want- attention.quote:Why do I have a feeling that if I looked at all the hottie threads, I wouldn't find you telling all the guys advertising they **** girls "straight, whatever...Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it"....
Actually my username has nothing to do with where I live but I don't put a map as my signature with a star denoting the location of my house either. Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home- swing, be gay, whatever.... Have at it. I just don't want to hear about it.
And FWIW, where you apparently live and do is in your profile, field manager from Houston.
In answer to the question- a loss to UCLA kicks the Herman conversation into high gear. A loss to Auburn 2 games later and negotiations start.
quote:
IF we lose to UCLA
Then OP should do a poop slap.
We won't lose. Book it. Free money.
Ray Rice has gotten pale.
Since the last few seasons we started 5-0 then spit the bit. It might be welcome to go 4-1.
If we lost to UCLA we go 12-1
If we lost to UCLA we go 12-1
If we lose to UCLA, at least we'll know right away, rather than 5 weeks of hype and overconfidence before being crushed by our conference schedule.
Half of the teams lose their first game. Sometimes it serves as a good wakeup call.
And we've needed a wakeup call since the day after we beat OU in the Cotton Bowl.
Half of the teams lose their first game. Sometimes it serves as a good wakeup call.
And we've needed a wakeup call since the day after we beat OU in the Cotton Bowl.
quote:Loving the Aggies and believing the Aggies have a good coach are two different things. If you believe the Aggies have a bad coach, you would probably show your love for them by expressing your desire to get a good coach. You can both love the team and acknowledge your own opinion that there are issues with the team/program. Lacking blind optimism isn't what makes someone a 2%er.quote:quote:Well the sample size is four seasons and he is one game above .500 in conference games, so you might wanna take a dose of objectivity.
What coach are you talking about because ours averages 9 wins a year in the fugging SEC.. You whiny @ss bi**ch..
Against the SEC, he is averaging a little over four fugging SEC wins.
It's okay bro. Better men than you have been known to become emboldened when safely behind electronic keyboard courage.
Sweet troll I guess?
Fun post. Gotta love how it has become the cool thing for fans (defined as: a person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing.) to verbally bash the HC and by association their favorite team.
It used to be that people like you were derivisely laughed at and labeled a 2%er.
Do you think being negative about something you are supposed to love, hurts or helps the situation?
Do you think kids who have no connection whatsoever to the program are going to want to come here when everyone is constantly talking about firing the current coach?
Do you think this makes the next coach's job easier or harder and by extension do you think it makes the AD's job of bringing a quality coach here easier or harder?
My grandpa referred to people like you as closet sips. Perhaps he is right, and you should go ahead and come out of the closet.
quote:59-0 wasn't a wakeup call?
And we've needed a wakeup call since the day after we beat OU in the Cotton Bowl.
CentexAg seems like the kind of guy that would be fun at parties. And by fun at parties, I of course mean the kind of fun where he is hung upside down by his shoe laces and beat with a pool noodle till he goes unconscious. You know how long that takes?
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Loving the Aggies and believing the Aggies have a good coach are two different things. If you believe the Aggies have a bad coach, you would probably show your love for them by expressing your desire to get a good coach. You can both love the team and acknowledge your own opinion that there are issues with the team/program. Lacking blind optimism isn't what makes someone a 2%er.
While your first sentence is true, verbally attacking the coach on the Internet, creating an environment of hostility towards the coach, and dismissing his accomplishments does not help the university you profess to love in the long run.
Other coaches will use this against us in recruiting. Some recruits will not even consider us if they perceive the coach to be on the hot seat or if they attend games and see a partially full stadium.
Regardless of what you think of the coach, It is my opinion that we as Aggies should support our coach and by extension our university until he is no longer our coach.
Being indifferent towards A&M is what makes one a 2%er. If by attacking the coaching acumen of the HC, you are in fact bringing harm to the university (worse than indifference) then you are even worse than a 2%er and in fact a closet sip.
I'm not sure where you are getting blind optimism from. Name a period in the history of this program where we have won more games against stiffer competition?
If we lose to UCLA...
We will lose to:
@Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee
Alabama
Ole Miss
LSU
End up 5-7, not even Bowl Eligible
I think we go 10-2 though
We will lose to:
@Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee
Alabama
Ole Miss
LSU
End up 5-7, not even Bowl Eligible
I think we go 10-2 though
Man, this thread went to **** fast!
quote:I didn't actually say anything about my own views. I was just objecting to the line of thinking.quote:
Loving the Aggies and believing the Aggies have a good coach are two different things. If you believe the Aggies have a bad coach, you would probably show your love for them by expressing your desire to get a good coach. You can both love the team and acknowledge your own opinion that there are issues with the team/program. Lacking blind optimism isn't what makes someone a 2%er.
While your first sentence is true, verbally attacking the coach on the Internet, creating an environment of hostility towards the coach, and dismissing his accomplishments does not help the university you profess to love in the long run.
Other coaches will use this against us in recruiting. Some recruits will not even consider us if they perceive the coach to be on the hot seat or if they attend games and see a partially full stadium.
Regardless of what you think of the coach, It is my opinion that we as Aggies should support our coach and by extension our university until he is no longer our coach.
Being indifferent towards A&M is what makes one a 2%er. If by attacking the coaching acumen of the HC, you are in fact bringing harm to the university (worse than indifference) then you are even worse than a 2%er and in fact a closet sip.
I'm not sure where you are getting blind optimism from. Name a period in the history of this program where we have won more games against stiffer competition?
The idea that we are the only school which complains about our coach and, therefore, behind the field in terms of negative recruiting relating to fans not liking the coach is silly. I suppose in a perfect world, there would be no reason to negatively recruit us and all reasons to negatively recruit others, but complaining about our coach doesn't make us unique. Look hard enough and you'll find Bama fans complaining about Saban, New England fans complaining about Belichick, and even Texas fans complaining about Strong.
My "blind optimism" comment comes from the idea that that it somehow makes you less of an Aggie if you vocalize the opinion that Sumlin hasn't done a great job and you therefore do not have high expectations for his tenure. A case can easily be made - and was made on this thread - that results against the actual stiff competition have been less than stellar. If you can't tell, I disagree with your opinion about supporting our coach for the sake of supporting our coach. Many believe they are supporting our university by not supporting our coach. As for me, I don't think he's a good coach, but I do think he has a great staff. Based on the last couple of seasons, I'm withholding excitement for this season until we win a few tough SEC games, but obviously (as always) hoping for great things.
Tom Herman will talk to A&M, only in order to get more out of the sips...
Agree if we lose its oline not enabling the run nor pass protection leading to turnovers.
Regardless I would expect improvement throughout the year with turner, and a loss would really mean nothing.
Just take it game by game
Regardless I would expect improvement throughout the year with turner, and a loss would really mean nothing.
Just take it game by game
quote:
Loving the Aggies and believing the Aggies have a good coach are two different things. If you believe the Aggies have a bad coach, you would probably show your love for them by expressing your desire to get a good coach. You can both love the team and acknowledge your own opinion that there are issues with the team/program. Lacking blind optimism isn't what makes someone a 2%er.
quote:
I didn't actually say anything about my own views. I was just objecting to the line of thinking.
quote:
If you can't tell, I disagree with your opinion about supporting our coach for the sake of supporting our coach.
quote:
As for me, I don't think he's a good coach, but I do think he has a great staff. Based on the last couple of seasons, I'm withholding excitement for this season until we win a few tough SEC games, but obviously (as always) hoping for great things.
Is anyone else confused by this joker?
quote:
Tom Herman will talk to A&M, only in order to get more out of the sips...
And we should use Herman as a means of getting a good deal with Briles.
quote:
The idea that we are the only school which complains about our coach and, therefore, behind the field in terms of negative recruiting relating to fans not liking the coach is silly. I suppose in a perfect world, there would be no reason to negatively recruit us and all reasons to negatively recruit others, but complaining about our coach doesn't make us unique. Look hard enough and you'll find Bama fans complaining about Saban, New England fans complaining about Belichick, and even Texas fans complaining about Strong.
As a third generation Aggie, I was under the impression that we don't typically look to justify our actions based on what others do. We take the higher ground.
But I suppose this is new army, so maybe we should embrace lying, cheating, stealing, and raping as some of the other football fans have done, right?
Name a high profile university where the majority of fans are jumping all over the coach in the spring through summer months when recruiting is hot and optimism is typically high. I'll wait.
You're right about being able to "look hard enough" to find fans who complain at other schools, but they are never the majority. The majority roll their eyes at these fans.
The majority of this board is at Sumlin's throat and has been since December.
Find another 10 programs like that, and maybe you are right.
We have always strived to be better than other schools, and yet it certainly looks to me like we are worse than other schools at this point.
Surely are a lot of non-ag tag agenda pushers on this thread.
quote:
Being indifferent towards A&M is what makes one a 2%er. If by attacking the coaching acumen of the HC, you are in fact bringing harm to the university (worse than indifference
My "blind optimism" comment comes from the idea that that it somehow makes you less of an Aggie if you vocalize the opinion that Sumlin hasn't done a great job and you therefore do not have high expectations for his tenure. A case can easily be made - and was made on this thread - that results against the actual stiff competition have been less than stellar. If you can't tell, I disagree with your opinion about supporting our coach for the sake of supporting our coach. Many believe they are supporting our university by not supporting our coach. As for me, I don't think he's a good coach, but I do think he has a great staff. Based on the last couple of seasons, I'm withholding excitement for this season until we win a few tough SEC games, but obviously (as always) hoping for great things.
Being indifferent towards A&M as an Aggie is what makes you less of an Aggie (2%er). i.e. not attending football games as a student, not participating in yells, not going to bonfire/muster/silver taps.
Verbally attacking a coach and disparaging his accomplishments to the point where it affects recruiting and the product on the field for the next coach is detrimental to the university. This is way worse than being indifferent, and hence why I am bringing back my grandfather's term "closet sip" to describe this behavior.
Isn't putting together a staff part of a coach's job? So if he has put together a great staff, then shouldn't he get credit for that?
Were you aware that the conference champ in the big12, big10, and acc played FOUR teams above 0.500 in conference this last year while Alabama played SEVEN?
I don't think anyone fully understands how tough this conference really is. To dismiss a coach, because he doesn't instantly win it all in this conference is sheer stupidity.
I have no idea what you could be confused about, but if you have a specific question in regards to my comments I'd be happy to answer.
Maybe I'm not speaking with a reasonable person.
I haven't seen that at all beyond the aftermath of the atrocious ending to our regular season last year. This seems more like a perception of someone who hopes for zero dissenting opinions. You're right that it will probably be easy enough to find more Aggies complaining about Sumlin than Bama fans complaining about Saban, but probably not more difficult when compared a program of similar success and off-the-field issues over the past couple of seasons. The Bama example was just to point out that all programs will have dissenters, regardless of success.
quote:It was a counter-argument against the idea that we are somehow putting ourselves behind the opposition because recruits can come on here and find negative comments. To the point of your comment, your opinion is based around the idea that believing and commenting that Sumlin hasn't done a great job is a bad thing. Not everyone agrees with you there, so they don't believe there to be a higher ground to take. Your view here is entirely subjective.
As a third generation Aggie, I was under the impression that we don't typically look to justify our actions based on what others do. We take the higher ground.
quote:
But I suppose this is new army, so maybe we should embrace lying, cheating, stealing, and raping as some of the other football fans have done, right?
Maybe I'm not speaking with a reasonable person.
quote:
You're right about being able to "look hard enough" to find fans who complain at other schools, but they are never the majority. The majority roll their eyes at these fans.
The majority of this board is at Sumlin's throat and has been since December.
I haven't seen that at all beyond the aftermath of the atrocious ending to our regular season last year. This seems more like a perception of someone who hopes for zero dissenting opinions. You're right that it will probably be easy enough to find more Aggies complaining about Sumlin than Bama fans complaining about Saban, but probably not more difficult when compared a program of similar success and off-the-field issues over the past couple of seasons. The Bama example was just to point out that all programs will have dissenters, regardless of success.
quote:quote:
Being indifferent towards A&M is what makes one a 2%er. If by attacking the coaching acumen of the HC, you are in fact bringing harm to the university (worse than indifference
My "blind optimism" comment comes from the idea that that it somehow makes you less of an Aggie if you vocalize the opinion that Sumlin hasn't done a great job and you therefore do not have high expectations for his tenure. A case can easily be made - and was made on this thread - that results against the actual stiff competition have been less than stellar. If you can't tell, I disagree with your opinion about supporting our coach for the sake of supporting our coach. Many believe they are supporting our university by not supporting our coach. As for me, I don't think he's a good coach, but I do think he has a great staff. Based on the last couple of seasons, I'm withholding excitement for this season until we win a few tough SEC games, but obviously (as always) hoping for great things.
Being indifferent towards A&M as an Aggie is what makes you less of an Aggie (2%er). i.e. not attending football games as a student, not participating in yells, not going to bonfire/muster/silver taps.
Verbally attacking a coach and disparaging his accomplishments to the point where it affects recruiting and the product on the field for the next coach is detrimental to the university. This is way worse than being indifferent, and hence why I am bringing back my grandfather's term "closet sip" to describe this behavior.
Isn't putting together a staff part of a coach's job? So if he has put together a great staff, then shouldn't he get credit for that?
Were you aware that the conference champ in the big12, big10, and acc played FOUR teams above 0.500 in conference this last year while Alabama played SEVEN?
I don't think anyone fully understands how tough this conference really is. To dismiss a coach, because he doesn't instantly win it all in this conference is sheer stupidity.
Putting together a staff is part of a coach's job. He has had many failures in this area in his short time than successes. Even the current staff - which, as I said, I believe to be great - is new as it is constituted and has proven nothing with the Aggies. Just because I think they're great doesn't mean they will do well (see: many of the past 20 years of Aggie football). Credit will come if and when they perform well.
I don't think anybody is dismissing him because he hasn't instantly won it all. I also don't think you've really listened to the people with whom you're trying to argue. Is it a goal of yours to understand? Or just to state why you're right?
quote:Damn dude. You just destroyed that kid. I agree btw.
I have no idea what you could be confused about, but if you have a specific question in regards to my comments I'd be happy to answer.quote:It was a counter-argument against the idea that we are somehow putting ourselves behind the opposition because recruits can come on here and find negative comments. To the point of your comment, your opinion is based around the idea that believing and commenting that Sumlin hasn't done a great job is a bad thing. Not everyone agrees with you there, so they don't believe there to be a higher ground to take. Your view here is entirely subjective.
As a third generation Aggie, I was under the impression that we don't typically look to justify our actions based on what others do. We take the higher ground.quote:
But I suppose this is new army, so maybe we should embrace lying, cheating, stealing, and raping as some of the other football fans have done, right?
Maybe I'm not speaking with a reasonable person.quote:
You're right about being able to "look hard enough" to find fans who complain at other schools, but they are never the majority. The majority roll their eyes at these fans.
The majority of this board is at Sumlin's throat and has been since December.
I haven't seen that at all beyond the aftermath of the atrocious ending to our regular season last year. This seems more like a perception of someone who hopes for zero dissenting opinions. You're right that it will probably be easy enough to find more Aggies complaining about Sumlin than Bama fans complaining about Saban, but probably not more difficult when compared a program of similar success and off-the-field issues over the past couple of seasons. The Bama example was just to point out that all programs will have dissenters, regardless of success.
If we lose, the US will crack along the continental divide
All indicators are that we will win and have a much better season than last year. Anyone whining about poor performance previous years aren't analyzing the obvious reasons for this poor performance:
Spavital-he gone replaced by someone who has a clue
Christianson-he gone replace by the top OL coach in the country
Freshman/Sophomore prima-donna QB's-gone
80%-90% Freshmen(Basically high school players) on Defense-All much better due to year of play and strength and conditioning
1.5 RBs increased to 6 fast strong RBs
A continuation of previous seasons could happen but there is so much reason for optimism.
If we lose to UCLA, ala OU and Alabama, We'll just take it out on everyone else! An early loss will still get us in the playoffs.
PASS THE KOOLAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spavital-he gone replaced by someone who has a clue
Christianson-he gone replace by the top OL coach in the country
Freshman/Sophomore prima-donna QB's-gone
80%-90% Freshmen(Basically high school players) on Defense-All much better due to year of play and strength and conditioning
1.5 RBs increased to 6 fast strong RBs
A continuation of previous seasons could happen but there is so much reason for optimism.
If we lose to UCLA, ala OU and Alabama, We'll just take it out on everyone else! An early loss will still get us in the playoffs.
PASS THE KOOLAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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