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Slwdsm
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Alright. Whatever you say sip troll.
http://www.hornfans.com/members/slwdsm.78703/recent-activity


And this proves what? That I may have (honestly don't remember) made an account on hornfans at some point in the past?
gopgabe
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Should I be super specific about everything?
"Always" : 58.2% of the time since December 13th at 5:28 pm.
"Every recruit:" Recruits whose last names start P, Q, S, Z, or R.
Do you see where you're coming off as a bit obsessive?

You're taking things too literally. This is a forum for football discussion. If you need a safe space where people are sunshine pumpers 24/7, please find such a place.

If you have a dissenting opinion with my beliefs, feel free to take it to PMs dude.
Slwdsm
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I am. He's been through this with half the posters on this website.


Actually I'm really just targeting you two... The two biggest cases of BAS on this forum that have been perpetually whining since the moorehead tweet.

And in regards to melodramatic... if the shoe fits... millennial, BAS, cliff jumping, whiny, bleeding vags... sorry if I'm not keeping it fresh enough for you but I'm really running out of adjectives at this point and I don't feel like looking through a thesaurus for you two children.
TXAggie2011
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The thing is that when you don't "keep it fresh", it's really easy to do a quick search like you did earlier and see just how many people you've accused of the very same things.

Like http://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2700236/replies/44881282#44881282 from 6 months ago.

I'm honored I'm one of two that you're targeting tonight, but I know it was just my turn in line.


Staff, give me time out if you want, but gopgabe is right, it's time for this thread to end.
Slwdsm
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Should I be super specific about everything?
"Always" : 58.2% of the time since December 13th at 5:28 pm.
"Every recruit:" Recruits whose last names start P, Q, S, Z, or R.
Do you see where you're coming off as a bit obsessive?

You're taking things too literally. This is a forum for football discussion. If you need a safe space where people are sunshine pumpers 24/7, please find such a place.

If you have a dissenting opinion with my beliefs, feel free to take it to PMs dude.



PM? Nah, I'd rather publicly call you out in an attempt to get you to stop being such a whiny little girl.

If your opinion was strong and logical it wouldn't need so much melodramatic fluff... instead you GROSSLY exaggerate OFTEN in an attempt to make your point seem much more grandiose than it actually is...

Honestly, it's a common theme among you millenials... when the facts don't fit your agenda, just manipulate them till they do... and if they still don't, just lie and act as if they did all along.

Slwdsm
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The thing is that when you don't "keep it fresh", it's really easy to do a quick search like you did earlier and see just how many people you've accused of the very same things.

Like http://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2700236/replies/44881282#44881282 from 6 months ago.

I'm honored I'm one of two that you're targeting tonight, but I know it was just my turn in line.


Staff, give me time out if you want, but gopgabe is right, it's time for this thread to end.


Oh wow, I called someone out 6 months ago for having a bad case of BAS?

I didn't even look at the link, but I'm guessing this is in relation to Allen/Murray? Or was it some other Texags cliff jumping situation? Honestly hard to guess when zoo posters (like yourself) find a reason to throw a melodramatic hissy fit every other week.
gopgabe
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Made a rude comment but changed my mind.
Slwdsm
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Also, I'm by no means a sunshine pumper.

I just don't cliff jump at the tiniest bit of "bad" news... I was often critical of Spav, and wanted him fired earlier than he was. I was ready for Sherman to go, but didn't like the way it was handled. I was often critical of Kyle Allen long before he transferred/melted down against bama.... do I need to continue?

Honestly the things I've acted the most like a millennial (whiny & over dramatic) on has probably been the reseating situation... but that was due to my family having the same seats since the third deck was built and then getting moved to trash seats in the endzone (which we turned down).

Also, had my fair share of melt downs during games... ie Sherman not running the damn ball against arky in 2011(?)

... basically I don't really feel I have anything to hide. So search away...
Slwdsm
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Made a rude comment but changed my mind.


Maybe you should reconsider, it will probably help you get this thread deleted so you can hide all the over dramatic trash posts you've been making from the rest of the zoo.

/edit: it's just like you millennials to want to hide your embarrassments ... are you starting to realize, that maybe you've been a touch too dramatic and whiny over the last few days? Or Just maybe a coach tweeting something true isn't the end of the world for the Aggie football program?

I've got nothing to hide. I hope the thread stays so the zoo knows not to take your melodramatic BAS posts seriously.
gopgabe
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Welp we're both Ags. I'm not gonna fight you if that's what you're looking for. It's pretty dumb getting personally heated on a message board. I'm kind of upset that I wasted my night with this, but that's life. Neither is gonna change the other's opinion so we're wasting our time. Here's to hoping for a good season, something we can both agree on.
Slwdsm
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Welp we're both Ags. I'm not gonna fight you if that's what you're looking for. It's pretty dumb getting personally heated on a message board. I'm kind of upset that I wasted my night with this, but that's life. Neither is gonna change the other's opinion so we're wasting our time. Here's to hoping for a good season, something we can both agree on.


You've wasted the last two days on this forum perpetually whining... but all the sudden you regret the time spent defending yourself?

Seems like your opinion isn't that important to you.
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Alright. Whatever you say sip troll.
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AgsMyDude
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I'm not gonna go hang around on UCLA boards. I trust the UCLA fans know about UCLA.

I don't trust their opinions about his system, but recruiting? Sure, why would they lie?


LSU fans also believed they has an upgrade over Chavis
Red Skye
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Fun Fact of The Thread:
Times the word "millennial" is used - 15
Red Skye
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Fun Fact of the Thread #2:
Times the word "whiny" is used - 11
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Slwdsm
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Alright. Whatever you say sip troll.
http://www.hornfans.com/members/slwdsm.78703/recent-activity


No activity?


I'm still personally trying to figure out why this is such a "gotcha" moment for him... maybe he doesn't understand what a troll is? Or maybe he's more concerned about the appearance of his argument than the actual quality of it.

Must be a millennial (17) thing.
TXAggie2011
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Dude, it's over. You're not changing any millennials minds, not a single one.

Stop and let someone else lead the crusade against millennials.
TXAggie2011
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I'm kind of upset that I wasted my night with this, but that's life. Neither is gonna change the other's opinion so we're wasting our time.


You had to know you weren't changing his mind.

But watching the meltdown, watching then posts get longer and longer and more and more frequent, it was kind of entertaining, no?
Slwdsm
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I'm kind of upset that I wasted my night with this, but that's life. Neither is gonna change the other's opinion so we're wasting our time.


You had to know you weren't changing his mind.

But watching the meltdown, watching then posts get longer and longer and more and more frequent, it was kind of entertaining, no?


What would you change my mind about?... or what have you even tried to change my mind about?

It's easy for you to toss insults about post length and meltdowns... but when it comes down to it, neither of you two have presented a decent opinion based in ACTUAL fact... most of the crap you've been posting since the moorehead incident has been half assed melodrama propped up by gross exaggerations.

Please do stick to the buzzwords and deflections... it's not transparent at all.
Loverboy
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I think Tate should go to cal to be with Spav.

Ought to guarantee him being a top 5 pick in the draft.

His dad would get phone calls every day from Spav too.

Made for each other. Hope Tate can learn the 3 index cards worth of plays.
Slwdsm
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I think Tate should go to cal to be with Spav.

Ought to guarantee him being a top 5 pick in the draft.

His dad would get phone calls every day from Spav too.

Made for each other. Hope Tate can learn the 3 index cards worth of plays.


I'd say he'll go to Ohio State, but I don't think he could handle the competition... he seems determined to find a place where he can be handed everything, rather than actually earning it.
TXAggie2011
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slwdsm, are you related to Karl Marx?
Citizen Reign
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TXAggie2011
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I just can't blame kids in recruiting process for looking out for themselves. We all look to maximize opportunity for ourselves given choices, and that's nothing new, it was happening well before millennials.

Texas A&M profits from kids who think they'll find playing time here. See: Trevor Knight.


Obviously, wherever he goes Martell will need to work hard and buy into the "team." If he doesn't, then that's a problem.
Citizen Reign
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"In the Rivals article, "The Martell family had other concerns, too. Texas A&M had offered other quarterbacks including four-star Jack Sears from San Clemente, Calif., and then-Oregon pledge Ryan Kelley out of Chandler [Ariz.] Basha - a sign to Al Martell that maybe his son was not a top priority to Mazzone."

That's all that needs to be said about Al. He seems to think that if his kid verbals to a school, that school has no right to have a plan B. So there goes the millennial entitlement theory. This kids dad is entitled too. Maybe he and Mr. Murray should find a university and take over as co-recruiting coordinators .

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texasamaggies/2016/05/05/tate-martells-father-says-mazzone-recruiting-quarterbacks-led-sons-decommitment-texas
TXAggie2011
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It actually sounds more like Mazzone was changing his Plan A.

Changing Plan A and having a Plan B are not the same thing.
Aggielandma12
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This pissing match started around midnight and is still going strong! Impressive gentlemen, impressive indeed.
Citizen Reign
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It actually sounds more like Mazzone was changing his Plan A.

Changing Plan A and having a Plan B are not the same thing.
Mazzone was hired to the OC. If recruiting two QB's in a class is too much for a high school jr and his dad to handle, I'm not worried about losing the recruit. As a matter of fact, I'd be glad to replace him with a kid that looks forward to competing for a starting job.

Do you really want a kid and his dad thinking they should have input as to who the school recruits? Plan A or Plan B, if the kid doesn't like it, he better strap that helmet on really tight because that's without a doubt the least amount of adversity he will face in the three or four years of his college career.

It's very obvious that the Martells don't want any QB's to get in his way. Does he think he is just going to walk in here and be given the job over Starkle (sp) and Jake? GTFOH!
TXAggie2011
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So, I've never actually said I was worried about losing Martell. And I'm not worried about losing Martell. My worry has been the conduct of the coaching staff and issues that are much bigger than a single recruit. But I know you can't keep up with every poster on this website so I get it. Its OK.


You're still missing the mark here, though. It doesn't sound like Mazzone was just recruiting a second QB. It sounded like he was moving on from Martell even being in his plans---which is totally within Mazzone's purview and Martell doesn't fit, I'll trust Mazzone.

I mean aren't some of the talking points around here rationalizing this is that Martell "is too short for the SEC" and "Mazzone had a 6'4" QB at UCLA"...?



Recruits consider playing time. We got Trevor Knight because he saw playing time here. We lost Martell because he was worried about playing time.

You win some, you lose some.
Slwdsm
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slwdsm, are you related to Karl Marx?


It figures you'd be well versed in socialistic crap.

I somewhat agree with the Mazzone changing his option A... but I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with Martel's attitude and entitlement issues though (cause/affect flipped). I also think you're over simplifying the issue quite a bit...

There's a difference between a kid looking to earn early playing time due to lack of mature depth, and a kid looking to be given playing time because he's basically the only option on campus (which is more of what Martel was going for).

*gets out tinfoil cap*

You have to also consider the option that the statement by the martells father was a way for both parties to save face. He could have easily embellished a bit in order to create an opportunity for his sons decommit to seem warranted, along with Aggie fans to feel like the staff didn't want Martel (aka stop cliff jumping/being drama tards).

I know you're having trouble understanding this, but my actual position all along has been one of level headed responses to the actual situation (not the grandiose situation that melodramatic posters are implying). I just don't feel the situation requires such a ridiculously dramatic response (on both sides of the fence). People getting hyper defensive and reaching out to attack Martel are just as bad as those flipping out about us always being a laughing stock, blaming everything on sumlin, and saying moorehead needed to be fired.
TXAggie2011
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I do have a hard time believing you're one of pure level-headed, unexcited disinterestedness.

You are correct on that point.
Slwdsm
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I do have a hard time believing you're one of pure level-headed, unexcited disinterestedness.

You are correct on that point.


Typical millennial... ignores 95% of the post and comes back with something snarky and 100% irrelevant.
ashley
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I don't know Mazzone well at all but I was around him in small social situations maybe fifteen years ago & found him to be quite friendly & talkative. I can't imagine his being unfriendly towards a recruit and his dad. That's just not how college coaches work.
TXAggie2011
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I've addressed it already. I don't think the problem is that I'm avoiding them. I think the problem is this has gotten personal for you. Its gotten personal for me, I'll admit it. I know its the internet but you've insulted me 101 times at this point.

Actually, I know its personal for you. You've followed me and others around too many separate conversations for it not to be. I know its personal for you, you say things like:


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PS, I'm sure you'd like me to chill, but it's not happening... I'm going to continue posting up your hypocrisy till you man up and stop acting like a whiny millennial child... it's a tough job, but someone's gotta teach you to have a spine.



I don't care if a recruit looks out for himself. Recruits should during recruiting.

We'll get guys like Trevor Knight because they see a clear path to a starting job, we'll lose some because they don't see a clear path to the starting job.

I didn't have to hear from Al Martell to have a hunch Mazzone was interested in other quarterbacks and that Martell wasn't "his guy."

I don't know if Martell made it all up or not. I know that I said yesterday on this board that I recognize we don't have Mazzone's side of the story.

I don't think think Al Martell would call out the A&M coaches because he wanted to provide A&M folks a "justification" to decommit from their school.

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