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Fran Tarkenton would respectfully disagree with you.

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The NFL is a much different league now then when Fran Tarkenton played. In Fran's era, Olineman weighed what middle linebackers weigh now. In addition today's linebackers are much stronger and faster than they were 30 plus years ago.

Sure Johnny is fast and elusive but so are NFL defenses. Johnnys style lends itself to injury.

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Seriously, he is the real victim and Crazy Crowely is the instigator.

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Even if it is as you say it is. JFF is still to blame for putting himself in the position where this all could happen in the first place.

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And he should be dealt with just as if he had done it?

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you're wasting your time....all the legal minds here already convicted him, indictment is just the final proof of guilt to them. i mean, we all know that indictment = guilt.

here's to Johnny ignoring the 'hate' crowd, and also to forever staying away from bat shi*t crazies.

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lol, well it isn't as if Johnny hasn't had issue after issue, or put himself in position to be questioned about his behavior and his inability to change.

And Johnny doesn't care about the "hate" crowd. Johnny cares about Johnny and Johnny only.

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you're wasting your time....all the legal minds here already convicted him, indictment is just the final proof of guilt to them. i mean, we all know that indictment = guilt.

here's to Johnny ignoring the 'hate' crowd, and also to forever staying away from bat shi*t crazies.

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lol, well it isn't as if Johnny hasn't had issue after issue, or put himself in position to be questioned about his behavior and his inability to change.

And Johnny doesn't care about the "hate" crowd. Johnny cares about Johnny and Johnny only.

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'issues' many times are in the mind of the hater. most of the 'issues' were from mouth breathing talking heads who were green with jealously and envy and wanted nothing more than to bring him down.

and omg lol...of course YOU know him so well as to tell us what Johnny cares about. like i said above, i just didnt realize we had so many folks here who know the very inner workings of his mind lol lol lol.

i'm not getting into this food fight with haters any further, i posted above because i just had to vent. i will follow this indictment and ensuing legal process and withhold any conclusions until it's over. so now will just leave this conversation to the haters and others, who like me, wish johnny the best of luck in life.

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He doesn't care. You understand this, right?

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Spot on.

BTW thank you God for giving us Von Miller as the professional face of the program during this time.

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yeah, he's the farting dancer and the Super Bowl MVP...

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Why don't you explain it

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Manziel fanboys think he can do no wrong, or that he has some justification for his wrong actions. In this particular case, I was mocking a Manziel fanboy. I acted as if I was a Manziel fan boy and made a hyperbolic post. A Manziel fanboy would compare the actions of Phillips with Manziel's in an effort to diminish to apparent wrongs on Manziel. In other words, the Manziel fan boy was saying "sure he gets into his hijinks, but he's not as bad as Lawrence Phillips."

Does this make sense to you?

Yes.

Thank you.

With all of the time that JFF is spending in Hollywood these days, it's only a matter of months before someone is "hacked" and a sex tape is released. I'm hoping that it stars Abigail Ratchford.

I can see how someone could read it a bit different.

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Let's assume for a second he didn't hit his ex. If true, why is he wasting his life? Because he didn't live it according to your narrative?

If he hit her, he should serve whatever sentence the judge decides. But outside of that, he's dome nothing wrong and he hasn't "wasted" his life because he didn't live up to your fantasy.

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Eh, when someone has a lot of talent and chooses not to use it, it seems fair to call that a waste. You're an accountant right? Imagine there were some guy who could add long sequences of numbers together in his head instantly, and could write perfectly straight columns of numbers even on unlined paper. If he chose not to account, wouldn't you think that was a waste?

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Just bc you're hung doesn't mean you have to do porn

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It'd be a waste if you didn't though.

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Not legally, but sympathy wise... I'm not shedding any tears.

I hope this doesn't interfere with his training in the mountains.

I guess he won't be telling her a 3rd time...

This is probably the worst case of wasted potential since Adolph Hitler gave up on his art career.

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He's the Amy Winehouse of football

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He needs more tats.

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i'm not getting into this food fight with haters any further, i posted above because i just had to vent. i will follow this indictment and ensuing legal process and withhold any conclusions until it's over. so now will just leave this conversation to the haters and others, who like me, wish johnny the best of luck in life


Are you going to ask to wear #2 in high school?

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Prosecutors and Manziel's attorneys have not discussed a deal to end the case before trial, Hinton said, adding that he would pursue a dismissal and did not foresee any agreement in which Manziel would plead guilty.

Hinton is a friend of Dallas County District Attorney Susan Hawk, who has spoken publicly about her own struggles with substance abuse after she took an extended leave of absence last year to enter rehab.

"They want to do the right thing," Hinton said of prosecutors.

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Ahhhh, if I could be rich and unemployable (maybe I'd understand)...

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This is probably the worst case of wasted potential since Adolph Hitler gave up on his art career.

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You know, I don't understand why everyone wants to denigrate Hitler's art, I've seen some of his work that was actually very good.

Affluenza is a helluva drug. So are actual drugs.

JFF will plead not guilty according to his attorney. I really wish this trial would be televised in the state of Texas!

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With all of the time that JFF is spending in Hollywood these days, it's only a matter of months before someone is "hacked" and a sex tape is released. I'm hoping that it stars Abigail Ratchford.

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So you are saying you want to see Johnny's cock?

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I hope this doesn't interfere with his training in the mountains.

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I think mountains really is referring to bewbs. So it's not untrue.

Just some turbulence in his descent to Rockbottom.

Can't convict if the glove.....errrr.....witness agrees to a settlement and refuses to testify.

JFF wins the Heisman for our school and himself but never will he reach the John David Crow Level nor a statue at Kyle Field! He is a person who was a great football player and allowed his off field life destroy his career! Really, I am tired of hearing about Johnny and really have lost all interest in the guy! JFF is an embarrassment to our school.

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Really, I am tired of hearing about Johnny and really have lost all interest in the guy! JFF is an embarrassment to our school.

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Yet you felt motivated to post about him.

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JFF wins the Heisman for our school and himself but never will he reach the John David Crow Level nor a statue at Kyle Field! He is a person who was a great football player and allowed his off field life destroy his career! Really, I am tired of hearing about Johnny and really have lost all interest in the guy! JFF is an embarrassment to our school.

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He is not an embarrassment to our school...not at all in fact...he is, however, an embarrassment to himself and his family name. All the stupid **** he does has nothing to do with A&M...N O T H I N G! Stop listening to tea sips who might tell you otherwise...or BASers

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So you are saying you want to see Johnny's cock?

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No, it is a prediction about his path to reality tv. If I am forced to watch it, I hope see Ms. Ratchford as the co-star.

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'issues' many times are in the mind of the hater. most of the 'issues' were from mouth breathing talking heads who were green with jealously and envy and wanted nothing more than to bring him down.

and omg lol...of course YOU know him so well as to tell us what Johnny cares about. like i said above, i just didnt realize we had so many folks here who know the very inner workings of his mind lol lol lol.

i'm not getting into this food fight with haters any further, i posted above because i just had to vent. i will follow this indictment and ensuing legal process and withhold any conclusions until it's over. so now will just leave this conversation to the haters and others, who like me, wish johnny the best of luck in life.

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I think at least some of the "hate" is not coming from assumptions that Johnny is guilty of assault against that woman.

Lets actually assume Johnny is innocent of assault, lets actually assume that this woman is crazy and made up the story. That would be most unfortunate and I would feel bad for Johnny finding himself in national news because of a false accusation.

BUT, it would be just one in a line of ***repeated instances*** where Johnny has allowed himself to be surrounded by questionable characters and/or found in questionable situations.

We all know what Johnny needs to do if he wants to play football or if he wants to be successful in any normal sense of the term and that's basically be an inconspicuous homebody for a little while.

He's not doing that. Having a night on the town with a questionable character, combined with the partying in L.A., the sarcastic comments about working out, driving without valid plates, all of that...its a pattern of questionable choices for someone who is unemployed.

Thus, those with any expectation that Johnny should be something more than a controversial socialite are going to "hate" on him because of it.

Talking heads were not envious. Talking heads were paid to comment on Johnny Manziel the football player, Johnny Manziel the guy who supposedly wanted to be more than a socialite, and so some of them were rough on him because he repeatedly has not done what is asked and expected of him from possible employers.



I think the biggest indicator that Johnny has to change is getting dumped by two agents in just a matter of months. Football players with actual hopes of signing a contract don't get repeatedly dumped by agents.

And even if you still think its a vast media conspiracy, and/or a vast NFL front office conspiracy, it will be infinitely easier for Johnny to change himself and stop giving them material to feed on than to try to change the entire world of media and NFL management.

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Agreed, he doesn't want to be resigned. They guy is flat out taking the Kardashian route.

You don't understand...

If you mention any variable that might support anything other than Johnny is the devil's child with his shirt untucked, you're an apologist.

Maybe TexAgs should should character limit like Twitter....