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The Bear did leave us on probation, just saying.

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Wasn't the probation for going to Junction? The horns raised a big stink about Junction not being a part of our main campus system and ended up convincing the ncaa. At least that is what I remember reading.

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Then you probably read it here.

Although we'd love to blame all things bad on t.u., they, along with most of the rest of the country, thought of the Junction trip as folly. Schools had been going off-campus for preseason camps for years, and many continue to do so, but the Junction trip wasn't the cause for any NCAA sanctions. Those were for recruiting violations under Coach Bryant.

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Correct . Involved a guy from Corpus who then went to Tu. Later at Tex. A&I. Later a pro and pretty good. Forget his name. Former grads involved.

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We did not go to the Orange Bowl. The only year we were on probation was 1956. We were SWC champions that year but were prohibited from going to a bowl. Runner-up TCU went to the Cotton Bowl, where they beat Syracuse, and third-place Baylor went to the Sugar Bowl, where they beat Tennessee. A&M beat both of them during SWC play. The following year A&M, off probation, played in the Gator Bowl against Tennessee, being outscored 0-3.

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See my correction to Gator. They both are in Florida. Probation year we were 9-0-1 (U. of Houston)

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Yeah, thanks a lot Marvin.

About 90% of players in the SWC in the 1950s were "purchased", so that is not why he came to A&M. He could have been "purchased" at a higher amount at plenty of other schools including home state LSU. The Bear was certainly a big part of his decision. Texas wasn't even a factor for a guy like Crow unless the player was just about the money because Bryant was so superior to Ed Price (tu head coach). Bryant was a guy that players were drawn to. That draw that our guys saw early proved to be pretty strong over many decades.

^ Such BS re: purchased ! Who bought Pardee - a six man player ?

An older coach Elmer Smith recruited Crow !

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There was a time in America, that an all male military school was an attractive place.

America changed in the 60's and new army arrived.

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Yeah man, that sounds like a real dream

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The Bear did leave us on probation, just saying.

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Wasn't the probation for going to Junction? The horns raised a big stink about Junction not being a part of our main campus system and ended up convincing the ncaa. At least that is what I remember reading.

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Although we'd love to blame all things bad on t.u., they, along with most of the rest of the country, thought of the Junction trip as folly. Schools had been going off-campus for preseason camps for years, and many continue to do so, but the Junction trip wasn't the cause for any NCAA sanctions. Those were for recruiting violations under Coach Bryant.

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Many continue to do so. Please explain.

First away camps were in 1910 and 1911 - Seabrook and LaPorte . Charlie Moran was the coach !

Inticed them with Professors daughters, of course.

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Wasn't the probation for going to Junction? The horns raised a big stink about Junction not being a part of our main campus system and ended up convincing the ncaa. At least that is what I remember reading.

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Although we'd love to blame all things bad on t.u., they, along with most of the rest of the country, thought of the Junction trip as folly. Schools had been going off-campus for preseason camps for years, and many continue to do so, but the Junction trip wasn't the cause for any NCAA sanctions. Those were for recruiting violations under Coach Bryant.

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Many continue to do so. Please explain.

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Sure. Arizona State has been camping at a school-owned facility in the Tonto National Forest since 1959. UTEP has been holding camps in Socorro, Alpine, and this past August in Ruidoso. The University of New Mexico has also trained in Ruidoso. UCLA moves out to the heat of San Bernadino, while Notre Dame practiced in Marion, Indiana, about 100 miles away from South Bend.

Tennessee spent a week or so at Milligan College in northeast Tennessee. Mike Leach took Washington State to Lewiston, Idaho when extensive renovations to the Cougars' facilities were ongoing early in his WSU tenure and has continued to do so since. Syracuse has trained at a U.S. Army post, Fort Drum, and has mixed in football practice time along with physical training with soldiers. Arizona has been camping at Cochise College, just north of the Mexican border, since Rich Rodriguez arrived in Tucson.

There are several others, but these are the most notable recently.

NCAA rules state that teams may practice off campus if they are transported from their on campus locker room. It's isn't like they are spending the night or days off campus. Those days are long gone.

I'm pretty sure I read that Crow wanted to go to Arkansas but Arkansas didn't accept married players at that time. A&M did. What else might have gone into it I have no idea.

I really have no actual knowledge of this being true, but it was presented as true wherever I read (or heard) it.

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NCAA rules state that teams may practice off campus if they are transported from their on campus locker room. It's isn't like they are spending the night or days off campus. Those days are long gone.

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So, the aforementioned schools are all in blatant violation of NCAA rules? Link?
None of those teams are driving back and forth every day. I know firsthand that UTEP stays at The Lodge in Ruidoso for about two weeks in early August. The other schools I previously mentioned in the above post also stay off-campus for one to two weeks.
Hell, Harbaugh wants to take Michigan to Florida for a portion of their spring training. That'll be a difficult daily trip back and forth to their locker room in Ann Arbor...

Harry got an Ag Tag!

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Harry got an Ag Tag!

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I have credibility now.

A while back when nobody thought I was an Aggie, I was tempted to post some long, interesting story to get a Spirit Tag and see if I could become the first poster to have both.
But I went the lazy way and just changed my email address.

Stud, I'm corrected.

According to Bryant's autobiography "Bear", written with Mickey Herskowitz, Bryant claims the whole network of "good 'ol boy gentlemen's club" SWC coaches, who couldn't take losing to the Aggies, were responsible for the probation. Or something to that effect. It's been many years since I read it, but that's what I recall.

I'm sure it had something to do with the fact that we had the coolest uniforms in the nation and the greatest intro music.

Isn't that how we get the big recruits now?

Among other things, JDC was married.

Jimmy, are you from Galveston Co?