First he took his son very late in the recruiting season to visit the Horns. I believe he did this late on purpose. After Stidham had committed to Baylor. Trying to work a deal I assume to be set up as some sort of QB consultant and using Stidham being gone as leverage against A&M. At least that is my opinion. Now Allen leaves and Kevin goes to Sumlin with the transfer talk. I like the kid. But as a coach I know, a Dad like Kevin Murray will not change. This will keep going on as long as his Son is here. The question is, is Kyler worth it as a player? Media will have a field day with this. But in the long run keeping Kevin around may be worse for the program. Again, just my opinion.

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First he took his son very late in the recruiting season to visit the Horns. I believe he did this late on purpose. After Stidham had committed to Baylor. Trying to work a deal I assume to be set up as some sort of QB consultant and using Stidham being gone as leverage against A&M. At least that is my opinion. Now Allen leaves and Kevin goes to Sumlin with the transfer talk. I like the kid. But as a coach I know, a Dad like Kevin Murray will not change. This will keep going on as long as his Son is here. The question is, is Kyler worth it as a player? Media will have a field day with this. But in the long run keeping Kevin around may be worse for the program. Again, just my opinion.

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I fully believe that half the reason Sumlin recruited Kyler was just so texas wouldnt get him.

I dont think hes worth keeping if hes not committed to the team. Luckily, we have a little more leverage now than before. But not much more.

Even some of the horns are saying they don't want that drama.

After putting up with Phil Simms, they were fools to even entertain the idea of Kyler playing there.

Reminds me of the situation at Arkansas with Mitch Mustain and his mother Beck Campbell plus Gus Malzahn thinking he knew how to run the offense. Nutt got fired over that crap-fest.

If enough BMAs listen to Kevin Murray, Sumlin will be gone toot sweet too.

OP has a point...

Kyler has no choice but to leave. He has to play perfect ball and win the games that we haven't been able to. If he doesn't the drumbeat bemoaning him will start sooner and with more intensity. If Allen goes somewhere and does well Kyler Murray loses as well. For the great father Murray is he has put his son in a very bad position.

Kyler needs a new start somewhere. It sounds like Oregon may be the place.

the situation is getting messier and messier every day

Helicopter parents at any level of competitive sports is not good for the coach or the program.

From what I've read the dad was a head case when he was at a&m.

Just par for the course.

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Kyler has no choice but to leave. He has to play perfect ball and win the games that we haven't been able to. If he doesn't the drumbeat bemoaning him will start sooner and with more intensity. If Allen goes somewhere and does well Kyler Murray loses as well. For the great father Murray is he has put his son in a very bad position.

Kyler needs a new start somewhere. It sounds like Oregon may be the place.

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No. Kyler won't survive very well in the PAC either. He needs to play on a team that seldom faces a defense. A Big XII team. Unfortunately.

latest buzz seems to be that Kevin is actually siding with Sumlin and trying to get his kid to remain here.

Yes, the situation is almost comical. I still wonder why Spav still has a job. Unless, the problem is not with Spav...








Who am I kidding? #firespav

I agree with Coach...unfortunately it looks like the power play is going to cost us in recruiting also with new news that Quartney davis is now de-committing.

I agree that Kevin has put his son in a bad situation. He is not playing NFL football. He is a baseball player. He will have to sit out a year of baseball unless he goes to a Junior College. Second, a coach would have to be in a bad place to take Kyler knowing Kevin likes to run the show. But every helicopter dad I know puts their kid in a bad situation usually no matter how good their intentions are.

Everyone I know here in Allen that know and communicate with Kevin say the only thing in town bigger than his ego is the Allen Eagle stadium.

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latest buzz seems to be that Kevin is actually siding with Sumlin and trying to get his kid to remain here.

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Then it's interesting that pop chose today of all days to start following OU, Tech, Texas, TCU, and Oregon on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/air14football/following

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latest buzz seems to be that Kevin is actually siding with Sumlin and trying to get his kid to remain here.

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Then it's interesting that pop chose today of all days to start following OU, Tech, Texas, TCU, and Oregon on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/air14football/following

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Such a shame to see all of this. I grew up loving Kevin Murray watching him as a kid when I was 6 years old. I've always heard he's an ass and this just confirms it.

I tell that POS to pound sand. It's pretty classy to threaten taking off to a traditional rival school to f around with your alma mater.

That fact tells us all we need to know. Good find.

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First he took his son very late in the recruiting season to visit the Horns. I believe he did this late on purpose. After Stidham had committed to Baylor. Trying to work a deal I assume to be set up as some sort of QB consultant and using Stidham being gone as leverage against A&M. At least that is my opinion. Now Allen leaves and Kevin goes to Sumlin with the transfer talk. I like the kid. But as a coach I know, a Dad like Kevin Murray will not change. This will keep going on as long as his Son is here. The question is, is Kyler worth it as a player? Media will have a field day with this. But in the long run keeping Kevin around may be worse for the program. Again, just my opinion.

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I fully believe that half the reason Sumlin recruited Kyler was just so texas wouldnt get him.

I dont think hes worth keeping if hes not committed to the team. Luckily, we have a little more leverage now than before. But not much more.

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I fully believe that the reason he recruited him (at least in the end when the drama became obvious) had a lot to do with the blow hard ags (look around, if you don't know who I am referring to) who would have called for Sumlin's head for losing out on a legacy that came with so much name recognition. In the end, all he may have done is delay it.... Did Sumlin really have a choice on recruiting Kyler and recruiting him hard. No!,.... And I am not sure how much control he has over what is going on now. It will hurt but our best hope for the long term COULD be ripping off the band-aid. Lord knows this drama isn't helping anyone!!!

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latest buzz seems to be that Kevin is actually siding with Sumlin and trying to get his kid to remain here.

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Then it's interesting that pop chose today of all days to start following OU, Tech, Texas, TCU, and Oregon on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/air14football/following

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Such a shame to see all of this. I grew up loving Kevin Murray watching him as a kid when I was 6 years old. I've always heard he's an ass and this just confirms it.

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I'm a classmate of Kevin and it is frustrating to see my generation acting like this as parents

Sumlin is to blame for plenty but when it comes to the Murray fiasco, we would have destroyed Sumlin had he lost Murray.

Stidham was a better kid and player for college but the alumni put a tremendous amount of pressure on Sumlin to go all in on Murray.

The damage has been done and Sumlin is not going to recover from this.

I hope the Murrays run to tu, where there is a weaker and even more incompetent coach than Sumlin waiting to suffer them. It might even get him another year. tu deserves the Murray **** show.

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First he took his son very late in the recruiting season to visit the Horns. I believe he did this late on purpose. After Stidham had committed to Baylor. Trying to work a deal I assume to be set up as some sort of QB consultant and using Stidham being gone as leverage against A&M. At least that is my opinion. Now Allen leaves and Kevin goes to Sumlin with the transfer talk. I like the kid. But as a coach I know, a Dad like Kevin Murray will not change. This will keep going on as long as his Son is here. The question is, is Kyler worth it as a player? Media will have a field day with this. But in the long run keeping Kevin around may be worse for the program. Again, just my opinion.

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Agreed that the Murrays had some leverage and used it to ( in my humble opinion ) extract some promises from Sumlin. I don't have any inside knowledge but if you look at what has happened over the past year, that's the only thing that makes sense

Remember, in February a pro baseball career was still a possibility ( yes I remember that he skipped baseball last spring )
Next item - it's clear to everyone now that Kyler should have red-shirted. Many said so this summer, and many said so last February. He wasn't physically or mentally ready for the SEC.

I said all that to make this point --- I hope this coaching staff, and specifically Coach Sumlin learns the lessons from all this. Specifically, no one player is more valuable than the team, the recruiting class that year, or the program as a whole. As we saw with the Malik situation, it's difficult to watch a highly thought of prospect get away, but in the long run it's best to stick to principle.

KM ends up a second tier program. Oregon will not want the baggage from a t baby that is vastly overrated.

Tell Kevin Jackie wants the 280Z back

I'm ready to move on from Kyler and his family. The drama has been toxic and it won't go away until he's somewhere else

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I agree that Kevin has put his son in a bad situation. He is not playing NFL football. He is a baseball player. He will have to sit out a year of baseball unless he goes to a Junior College. Second, a coach would have to be in a bad place to take Kyler knowing Kevin likes to run the show. But every helicopter dad I know puts their kid in a bad situation usually no matter how good their intentions are.

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I'm not sure he can play QB in the SEC, much less the NFL. It may be too soon to say that but if he doesn't like taking hits and he is still playing football, it makes me wonder if he really wants to play football.

I for one don't want Kyler here if we have to watch Days of our Lives over and over, and don't want him here if HE doesn't want to be here.

He may very well be a great kid and athlete, but he is certainly not bigger than Texas A&M.

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I fully believe that half the reason Sumlin recruited Kyler was just so texas wouldnt get him.

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You fully believe half the reason Sumlin recruited the #1 dual threat qb in the country and the Gatorade hs player of the year, who's dad also happened to be a qb here, was just so texas wouldn't get him?

I have no idea if Kyler will pan out at this level. I have no idea what type of influence Kevin actually has if any over Sumlin. I have no idea about any of the inner workings and I'm not going to speculate unless I hear or see something of substance on that topic.

What I do know, is that statement is so bass awkward it isn't even funny

HEY KYLER!!!

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE AGGIELAND PLEASE RETURN THE MONEY THAT THIS UNIVERSITY GAVE TO HIM FOR PLAYING THIS FALL.

SPOILED BRAT!!

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HEY KYLER!!!

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE AGGIELAND PLEASE RETURN THE MONEY THAT THIS UNIVERSITY GAVE TO HIM FOR PLAYING THIS FALL.

SPOILED BRAT!!

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You. Are. Very Dumb.


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