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Arky thinks Bama was stealing plays

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HustlerAggie
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Probably just a conspiracy theory, but some Arky fans think that Bama was signaling in to their team what the Arky plays called were.

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=601369.0

Obviously if true, they wouldn't be so blatant about it again, but it is something to look for in the game Saturday.



Edit: Much longer meltdown thread: http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=601309.0
Maroon Flash
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The guy from Tuscaloosa standing behind Bielema with a parabolic mike and giving hand signals toward the Bama bench was just letting the Bama bench know how many pizzas to order.
Rossy
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Could be something, probably nothing. He is looking toward BB while the play is called. Then does his signal as Arky is subing. It does seem strange if you're looking for something to be amiss. It could just as easily be that his mic is going active on 4th down or something of that nature.

2nd & 10 on their own 34. Camera cuts to it around the 41:50 mark.



Brewmaster
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Looks plausible to me...hogville has a short vid of him signaling.
mid90
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After watching that video of bert flopping and celebrating the flag thrown, pardon me while i don't feel sorry for arky.
CrottyKid
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Or it could be that Bama is really good at defense.
pv
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Saban would do this. Let's be real.
The Collective
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Probably deflate balls too.
Bottlehead90
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From the bilichek coaching tree
rangerdanger
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This is how a real SEC champion bends the rules. None of that soccer style crap.
TyHolden
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How hard is it to steal one of spaz's 4 plays?
BMX Bandit
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You should start watching games.
A is A
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Sorry if I do not fully understand all the rules of football, but what constitutes "Stealing"? If he has seen the same play called 5+ times prior, and they call it again, why can't Saban/Smart learn in game and adjust their defense to the play being called?

Yell Practice
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Is something wrong with watching them signal their plays. ???
permabull
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The Collective
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I tend to agree, but why is this guy on the Arkansas sideline? Camera / production related perhaps?
Yell Practice
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pcampbell1223
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This incident should raise a few eyebrows regardless of your thoughts on Arky. More than likely this guy is a Tuscaloosa local that was picked up by ESPN to operate the field mic. Field mic operators are not ESPN employees. They are typically picked up as free lancers to work the game. So who knows what connections he has with the university or the athletic department.

Something else odd about this guy was that he was wearing a Go Pro while on the sideline. His job is to operate the field mic, not record video. He is the guy who shot the Bert "flop" and then sent the video to a Bama high school coach. The HS coach then let the video go viral.

Was he stealing signals? Who knows. Should he have had a personal camera on the sideline or near the arky coaching staff? Absolutely not. If this guy would have been caught standing behind KDS or Spav during the game, TexAgs would be going crazy.
Little Rock Ag
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The problem is that all of the whining and complaining from Bielema has left me a little short in the sympathy department. I know this isn't his complaint, but he poisoned the well.
aeroag14
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With Bielema there they are always going to come up with something to b***h about. Doesn't matter if there is any validity to it. They will always be b******g about why they didn't win.
Blaser270
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With Bielema there they are always going to come up with something to b***h about. Doesn't matter if there is any validity to it. They will always be b******g about why they didn't win.

Well said. Imagine how irritating he would be if his system was actually winning. He is an arrogant pompous azz.
Slwdsm
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I don't know why our game with bama is brought up in this thread...

Do you seriously think bama is going to put someone on our sideline for a game not in Tuscaloosa?

HustlerAggie
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I don't know why our game with bama is brought up in this thread...

Do you seriously think bama is going to put someone on our sideline for a game not in Tuscaloosa?


Good point. It would likely be harder to get a spy on the opposing sideline during an away game. I wouldn't put it past the Gumps to try, though.
DayAg!
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Do you seriously think bama is going to put someone on our sideline for a game not in Tuscaloosa?
Umm. Do you think that is an impossibility. Saban is Saban for a reason. I wouldnt put anything past that poor mouthing sack of. I just dont like him. Good coach, yep. Capable of doing something like this, yep. Saban is a win at all cost type of individual unless you havent figured this out. Big ego demands it. He treats his hair like he's from Hollywood and gonna make a movie. He is that vain.

We do need to have some type of communication to someone on the field. Maybe Billy for just this reason. If anyone sees something fishy going on they better let someone know and contact Billy if need be.
Federale01
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That's a little far-fetched. Even if you signal something, like "it's going to be a pass," that helps you very little as a coach without knowing more information. Yeah, Arkansas uses the play-action a lot, so depending on the down and distance it may help a little. But what could really conveyed with a signal like that other than "pass" or "run"? And could bama really call an effective defense based on such little information?
DayAg!
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Ok.. so tell me then, what was the guy signalling.
HustlerAggie
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That's a little far-fetched. Even if you signal something, like "it's going to be a pass," that helps you very little as a coach without knowing more information. Yeah, Arkansas uses the play-action a lot, so depending on the down and distance it may help a little. But what could really conveyed with a signal like that other than "pass" or "run"? And could bama really call an effective defense based on such little information?
According to some of the stuff I was reading, the guy was in some places very close (right behind) the Arky coaches. Most notably right before the fake fieldgoal that Bama suspiciously had sniffed out. In any event, shooting personal video from an opposing team's sideline is a big no-no and shouldn't have been allowed. With the advent of GoPro's (apparently what he was using) and other small video cameras, it is very hard to detect though.

I won't commit to any sort of conspiracy, but it is definitely fishy. It is most likely it was just some guy on his own doing fishy things because he wanted personal video. However, it is worth being careful about this sort of thing.

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Who cares if they were stealing signals? Good for them. It's not their job to ignore you.

It's your job not to have easy to interpret signals.
HustlerAggie
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Who cares if they were stealing signals? Good for them. It's not their job to ignore you.

It's your job not to have easy to interpret signals.
Stealing signals is one thing. Standing on an opposing sideline and watching/listening to & videoing opposing coaches from a few feet away is something else.
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Who cares if they were stealing signals? Good for them. It's not their job to ignore you.

It's your job not to have easy to interpret signals.
Stealing signals is one thing. Standing on an opposing sideline and watching/listening to & videoing opposing coaches from a few feet away is something else.

Initiative?
rcannaday
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You have to admit, objectively it does look shady... for a guy who probably shouldn't ever even be noticed to be doing baseball hand waving signs.
The Collective
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Also, the fact that there was video released that was taken from the Arkansas sideline (the Bielema / Robinson situation). If I were Arkansas, I'd be concerned enough about that video's existence to wonder if I needed to change some signals & communication.
12thmanfootball
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How hard is it to steal one of spaz's 4 plays?

Underrated post.
aggiebrad94
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Obviously, that wave was a super-secret signal to Nick Saban indicating what play was about to be run by Arkansas. Saban was able to plant him on the Arkansas sideline with help from ESPN - which still hates Arkansas to this day because Petrino left the Falcons which are owned by Arthur Blank who founded Home Depot which sponsored College GameDay. The Illuminati is also involved somehow as well.

My favorite post from Hogville
Hogattack
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One good thing came out of it.. at least other teams will be aware of this and can deal with it accordingly now. The guy had a GoPro videoing everything right behind our coaching staff, which has the capability to stream to other devices live. Since it's against the rules to video on the sidelines, something doesn't add up. Good luck in your game.
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