Props to the media guy who asked this. I have been screaming at Spav on TV and have recently questioned in my previous post as to why the media hasnt asked Spav or Sumlin. Stupid response, very stupid. Get that crap worked out!

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How hard would it be to practice an under center exchange for 30 minutes a week... Would that really take away from any other practice time?

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Would you really want to run a play that you've only practiced for 30 minutes a week with the game on the line?

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Nobody said game on the line. How about 3rd and inches in the 2nd quarter. Line up and get a few damn inches on occasion under center. Give the other teams something to think about.

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Well there ya go. No I didn't listen to I'm just going off the people saying "we're 5-0 without it" and it shouldn't be a part of the offense. Everything should be a part of the offense, everything should be a possibility in every series.

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Who is saying it shouldn't be a part of the offense? Im just offering viewpoints as to why spav doesnt call the plays in games. He gave a couple reasons, however B.S some feel they are.

The point in saying that we are 5-0 without it is that we have been pretty dang good offensively so far. I just feel that the spav hate is being blown way out of proportion. And i know i was here last year defending snyder, but at least spav actually has rankings that back up the view that the offense is successful despite how these threads would make it seem.

And i also think a healthy james white and more experience for Davis and the rest of the H-back tweeners will solve some of our short yardage dilemmas.

We're 5-0 and have good numbers on offense. I think the point most are making is that we have the talent to do better and if we let teams like Alabama, LSU or Ole Miss stick around during games we will lose. We have a championship like players on offense being run by a sophomore in training offensive coordinator.

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We're 5-0 and have good numbers on offense. I think the point most are making is that we have the talent to do better and if we let teams like Alabama, LSU or Ole Miss stick around during games we will lose. We have a championship like players on offense being run by a sophomore in training offensive coordinator.

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Spav called a good game against MSU. Kyle was off in the third pretty bad and we dropped two touchdowns.

He's not the best in the world, but he put us in a position to win that game by more than two touchdowns. Can't ask for more than that. Gotta throw and catch the ball.

I understand our philosophy. They do not want to take the time to add a group of goal line plays to our offense. It's not just the QB sneak and the sneak isn't always a very good play against goalline defenses anyway.
With that said, I prefer to be under center inside the five but I certainly understand their thinking. There is only so much time to work goal line offense each week.

Missouri and LSU he was to blame a lot of redzone calls. This year. He could prove ppl wrong. But after Bama and ole miss. Let's see the Spav apologist come out of some. I hope I'm wrong. But I have a bad feeling

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"Practice the QB under center. No reason we should not have this in our playbook."

I agree. Surprised that it is left out.

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How many of you listened to the actual press conference? Spav said we practice under center plays in his answer, and that he just isn't comfortabe with dialing up under center plays in pressure situations because mike matthews only relative weakness is getting a push against big NT's and 1-techs

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So basically someone decided it was best to get us someone in that position who is considered undersized for the conference we're in, and when "gimme" plays are an option for pretty much every other team of our caliber, we're screwed because we're outmatched in that area?

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"Practice the QB under center. No reason we should not have this in our playbook."

I agree. Surprised that it is left out.

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How many of you listened to the actual press conference? Spav said we practice under center plays in his answer, and that he just isn't comfortabe with dialing up under center plays in pressure situations because mike matthews only relative weakness is getting a push against big NT's and 1-techs

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So basically someone decided it was best to get us someone in that position who is considered undersized for the conference we're in, and when "gimme" plays are an option for pretty much every other team of our caliber, we're screwed because we're outmatched in that area?

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They aren't always gimmes. If we're better at other plays why not run those. We praise chavis for scheming away from weakness and towards our strengths, but we want to criticize spav for doing the same.

I just think people are blowing things out of proportion. Our offense is well above average and is successful. Without drops we win that msu game by almost 4 TDs and we would still have people complaining that we don't go under center. If we get better at short yardage plays without going under center i think people would still complain. Under center doesn't always equal short yardage success.

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I understand our philosophy. They do not want to take the time to add a group of goal line plays to our offense. It's not just the QB sneak and the sneak isn't always a very good play against goalline defenses anyway.
With that said, I prefer to be under center inside the five but I certainly understand their thinking. There is only so much time to work goal line offense each week.

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Spav said we practice under center plays

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How hard would it be to practice an under center exchange for 30 minutes a week... Would that really take away from any other practice time?

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Would you really want to run a play that you've only practiced for 30 minutes a week with the game on the line?

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Nobody said game on the line. How about 3rd and inches in the 2nd quarter. Line up and get a few damn inches on occasion under center. Give the other teams something to think about.

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Fair enough.

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I understand our philosophy. They do not want to take the time to add a group of goal line plays to our offense. It's not just the QB sneak and the sneak isn't always a very good play against goalline defenses anyway.

With that said, I prefer to be under center inside the five but I certainly understand their thinking. There is only so much time to work goal line offense each week.

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Spav said we practice under center plays

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Yes, but we don't run them in games.

I wonder if the Spav haters even know what percentage of 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2, and 1st, 2nd, or 3rd and goal from the 1 or 2 yard line are successful. I'm pretty sure they do not know, and that this entire argument is based on their perception of our offensive success or failure.

Under center QB run would have got us manny first downs in the past. If you go from straight shotgun to a hurry up QB run straight behind the center no damn team would be expecting that. That is the problem with with our offense, they are just one damn demensional. A great team can make adjustments in any form.

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Under center QB run would have got us manny first downs in the past. If you go from straight shotgun to a hurry up QB run straight behind the center no damn team would be expecting that. That is the problem with with our offense, they are just one damn demensional. A great team can make adjustments in any form.

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Well, here are the actual stats. On 3rd down, or goal to go, and yards to go of 1 and 2 yards, we are 17 of 23 for the season. 5 of those plays occurred in two series during the Miss State game. One was the goal line series in which we scored a touchdown. The other was a 3rd and 4th down series in which we were unsuccessful. Of the other 18 attempts, 16 were successful.

So, think about that for a minute. We went 1 for 3 at the goal line and scored a TOUCHDOWN. We had one series that ended on an unsuccessful 3rd and 4th down. We had 16 of 18 successful 3rd downs, or 87.5%. If you add in the TD series and the failed 4th down attempt, we are 17 for 20, or 85%.

The haters are complaining because of three failed attempts the entire season! THIS is how much of an overreaction these clowns are making. The "many first downs" that you claim we would have gotten under center would be 3 AT MOST...all season.

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Under center QB run would have got us manny first downs in the past. If you go from straight shotgun to a hurry up QB run straight behind the center no damn team would be expecting that. That is the problem with with our offense, they are just one damn demensional. A great team can make adjustments in any form.

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Well, here are the actual stats. On 3rd down, or goal to go, and yards to go of 1 and 2 yards, we are 17 of 23 for the season. 5 of those plays occurred in two series during the Miss State game. One was the goal line series in which we scored a touchdown. The other was a 3rd and 4th down series in which we were unsuccessful. Of the other 18 attempts, 16 were successful.

So, think about that for a minute. We went 1 for 3 at the goal line and scored a TOUCHDOWN. We had one series that ended on an unsuccessful 3rd and 4th down. We had 16 of 18 successful 3rd downs, or 87.5%. If you add in the TD series and the failed 4th down attempt, we are 17 for 20, or 85%.

The haters are complaining because of three failed attempts the entire season! THIS is how much of an overreaction these clowns are making. The "many first downs" that you claim we would have gotten under center would be 3 AT MOST...all season.

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Rabble rabble spav sucks at short yardage because spav sucks rabble rabble.

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I understand our philosophy. They do not want to take the time to add a group of goal line plays to our offense. It's not just the QB sneak and the sneak isn't always a very good play against goalline defenses anyway.

With that said, I prefer to be under center inside the five but I certainly understand their thinking. There is only so much time to work goal line offense each week.

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Spav said we practice under center plays

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Yes, but we don't run them in games.

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My b. Just trying to clear up confusion in case you were trying to say that we dont have under center plays in the playbook. Spav could be lying but he did say we practice them.

Most of the positive stats come from playing cupcake teams. Miss State game we only converted inside. Not 1 single time did we sucessfully get a first down by running outside the tackles on 3rd or 4th down.

Here is the real reason

http://m.statesman.com/news/sports/high-school-quarterback-suspended-inappropriately-/nnynG/

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Miss State game we only converted inside. Not 1 single time did we sucessfully get a first down by running outside the tackles on 3rd or 4th down.

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I recall only one such attempt. It was a pitch-option on third and goal in the opening drive. The pitch setup was there for White. Reynolds leveled the linebacker and Smith had a clear shot at the corner, the only other defender. But Allen missed the read, kept it himself, and was stuffed by two defenders.

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Most of the positive stats come from playing cupcake teams. Miss State game we only converted inside. Not 1 single time did we sucessfully get a first down by running outside the tackles on 3rd or 4th down.

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Regardless where the stats come from, they do not support the Spav haters' claim that we cannot gain short yardage.