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Why is Michael Bennett talking crap about an Aggie?

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Clem
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Go **** yourself.

'sip move calling out an Ag like that.

Guess you do not consider Johnny Manziel an Aggie either... No degree for him.
Were you meaning to be sarcastic, maybe. You're calling out someone for calling out an Aggie, who called out an Aggie, unnecessarily.
welborn
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I don't have the first clue as to how the relationship between MB and RT was or is now. Nobody outside of that lockerroom really knows. What I can tell is, like many other posters have said, RT is not "really a $100m Qb".

People that understand how those contracts work can tell you those details.

The truth of the matter is, there are few "elite" Qbs in the NFL, and fewer "serviceable" Qbs. The majority of the starters out there are career journeymen and backups that landed in a desperate place. Most of these guys would be holding a clipboard if they played a decade or two ago.

Owners have to pay the money for the first two tier guys. RT fits in the 2nd tier and compensated accordingly.
onceaggie
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bennet is not an aggie he didn't graduate.

He needs stfu
Go **** yourself.

'sip move calling out an Ag like that.

Guess you do not consider Johnny Manziel an Aggie either... No degree for him.
You can EAD...Playing football at a school does not make one an aggie.

It was poor form calling out RT like that...
onceaggie
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bennet is not an aggie he didn't graduate.

He needs stfu
Be sure to let the university know this new rule so they can remove the names of all the fake Aggies who left school and now whose names are on the plaques of Aggies who have died in war.
Really you played that card...They are not even similar situations.

Quick call the school and make sure everyone who has suited up for Aggie football gets a ring regardless of if they earned the hours.
mbyrd
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who cares if they are both aggies. You can call someone out no matter what school they went too. And he is right, RT is 23-25 and does not deserve at this point to be one of the top 15 highest paid players in the NFL.
BMX Bandit
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What do you mean he doesn't deserve it? He was paid the market rate for his services.
mbyrd
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based on his play on the field the past three years I do not personally believe he has earned that kind of money. Not saying he won't eventually be worth that scratch but right now he is being paid based on potential.
BMX Bandit
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no offense, but It's clear that you don't understand his contract.
mbyrd
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well thank you for the insight but the $19.5 MM he will make this year, in my opinion, is being overpaid for his performance up to this point.
onceaggie
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Fitzpatrick got a huge payday and now you idiots are saying RT doesn't deserve his?


SMH
mbyrd
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it's not about RT....take the fact he is an aggie out of the equation and I would still think he is overpaid, as is Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Bradford, Cutler, or any other QB not in the top 10 best QB's in the league making more than $10 MM a year. Yes I know it's market value but the position is overpaid. Same can be said for the pitching position in baseball. I know how important both positions are but doesn't change the fact I personally do not believe a mid-level player deserves to be paid in the top 5% of the league.
welborn
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well thank you for the insight but the $19.5 MM he will make this year, in my opinion, is being overpaid for his performance up to this point.

Who else would you sign in his place that would be "worthy" of that deal?

Who else was available in their draft position that would be "worthy"?

Bunk Moreland
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it's not about RT....take the fact he is an aggie out of the equation and I would still think he is overpaid, as is Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Bradford, Cutler, or any other QB not in the top 10 best QB's in the league making more than $10 MM a year. Yes I know it's market value but the position is overpaid. Same can be said for the pitching position in baseball. I know how important both positions are but doesn't change the fact I personally do not believe a mid-level player deserves to be paid in the top 5% of the league.

How is he overpaid if he got paid market rate?

Tannehill is worth exactly what he got. He was paid market value for his services at a man in his job title(QB), and signed a contract reflecting that. Just because there are other players in the NFL that are "better" overall or at their own position doesn't mean ****. Shane Lechler will retire the best punter in NFL history. He'll be the best player in the history of the league at his position. Does he deserve more than Tannehill?

Maybe Mike should worry about honoring his contract, and not deciding after every good year that he "deserves more." He's in freaking year 2 of a brand new contract he signed paying him $28.5 over 4 years. He signed a contract, and after 25% of the length is up, he's *****ing that he's not paid enough. That's on him. If he wanted a chance at making more after 1 year of a contract, sign a 1 year deal. But no, he wanted the comfort of whatever guaranteed money they put on top, or the length of the deal for security.
mbyrd
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once again I understand he is being paid market value......my issue is with what is deemed market value for the QB position. I don't begrudge him the ability to make that kind of money. I just believe the game is screwed up in that one player, warranted or not, takes up as much of the cap as some QB's do. It's a team sport and I can understand other players being pissed that the QB makes as much money as they do and are treated with kid gloves by the teams and the league. Same can be said in the business world. I'm not trying to change anything just expressing my opinion.
BMX Bandit
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So you understand how important the position is, but think it should be viewed equally to others for salary?

mbyrd
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I didn't say the position is equal to every other position but I do believe the disparity between what a QB makes, mid level or superstar, is too high.

Question - If MB had made the same comment about Cutler or Dalton would you guys be as upset as you are?
BMX Bandit
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I'm not upset at all.

I'd still mock him for not understanding how contracts in his league or basic economics work.
welborn
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They're compensated according to their role and responsibility. Lets set aside the aspect of being the face of the franchise and the key marketing tool.

Consider the amount of knowledge they have to have, re-obtain, regurgitate to their teammates, and direct on and off the field.

Consider how much study is involved prior to each season, practice, game, post game.

Listen to a guy like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees talk to their qb coaches. Its a second language they're speaking.

Then there is the health/ performance side of things. It's not any Qb's fault the league has adjusted the rules to keep them protected. They did so to allow owners to have some protection on their investment.

There are no dumbass Qb in the NFL that last very long.
mbyrd
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so it's ok for you to call out another aggie but it's not ok for MB to call out another aggie?

and I'm fairly certain he understands how contracts work in the NFL. His point is valid in that QB's in the NFL are put on a pedestal whether they have earned it or not and then are treated like china dolls by officials and the league.
welborn
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MB is essentially paid to assault people.

RT, like all other starting Qb, is paid to do a helluva lot more.
mbyrd
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welborn - valid point
BMX Bandit
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Clearly he doesn't since he thinks Tannehill was given $100 million.

If Bennett was calling out Tannehill for not knowing what he was talking about, you'd have a point.
mbyrd
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maybe he was just rounding
Bunk Moreland
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Tannehill isn't being paid $100mm no matter what!

That's not how it works in the NFL. Mike knows that. He's being ridiculous by trying to say "tannehill is making $100mm"

He isn't. If he has an all pro year this year and next year, then maybe he will(and will have earned it)...but there is also a chance that if he stays as mediocre as MB thinks he is, then he'll never sniff more than $40 or $50 off that contract.
aCosmicBandito
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Michael Bennett needs to quit whining. He answered his own question when he said, 'I guess that is the value of the position.' His position is not as valuable as a QB, which has become ever more important in a passing league, with bigger more complicated defenses making it harder to be an elite QB or for a team to keep a consistently healthy franchise RB on the team (a position which has also lost its value in the past decade as more teams go to 1, 2, and 3 RB systems).

The Texans have the best defensive player in the league right now and a below average QB. How are they doing? The Seahawks would miss Russel Wilson a lot more than MB if they both went down, and Wilson isn't an elite QB (although he is better than Tannehill at this point).

Even an average QB like Tannehill is worth a lot because if you don't have one, you're toast. Ask any team that doesn't have a QB if they would take Tannehill or wait to see if they hit the lottery on a QB draft crap shoot.

Bennett is a good defensive player on a great defense which means he isn't worth the money he thinks, or he would've gotten a better deal or offer from another team. He certainly didn't help himself being right in the middle of a brawl at the end of the Super Bowl. I don't think it hurt him, but it definitely doesn't help that most people's only association with Bennett, outside of A&M fans, is one of the guys throwing punches in the endzone at the end of their loss in the Super Bowl.
permabull
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BMX Bandit
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His rookie contract was the amount bargained by the union. That's the new normal.
aCosmicBandito
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Another reason Ryan Tannehill isn't overpaid? He is the best QB they've had in Miami since Dan Marino. Dan Marino retired in 2000. Good QBs don't just fall out of the sky. You have to be lucky to get the right one. If you don't have a HoF QB, you either roll with what you've got or risk falling back into the abyss for a decade.
Phil Garner
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Bennett and tannehill had beef at a&m


....and this is how stupid rumors start.
Cannonball!
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but is joe flacco elite
ArizonaAg
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Another reason Ryan Tannehill isn't overpaid? He is the best QB they've had in Miami since Dan Marino. Dan Marino retired in 2000. Good QBs don't just fall out of the sky. You have to be lucky to get the right one. If you don't have a HoF QB, you either roll with what you've got or risk falling back into the abyss for a decade.
Couldn't agree more. Franchise QB's are very hard to find and RT is a franchise QB. Some stats to back it up, he just finished his 3rd year in the league and was already 14th in the league in QBR, showing improvement in each successive year of his career. He completed 66% of his passes and had a 2:1 TD to Int ratio. Considering he's improved each year of his career and if he continues to do so going forward, you could actually argue he might be underpaid.

With regard to whether the QB position is overpaid, I would certainly argue that it is not. The QB is the face of the franchise and the fans want to see offensive production. Why else has the NFL implemented so many rules protecting the QB? It's one component of the wussification of the league, which I personally think sucks, but that component is driven by the fans (revenue generators) thirst for offense. Franchises realize that the QB is darn near untouchable and have placed an increased emphasis on the passing game, in doing so the value of the QB to the team becomes that much higher and the corresponding increase in salary follows.
MidTnAg
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Tannehill is a very, very good QB. But he is not an elite QB.
Seems like $100M is a lot of money for a QB of his caliber.
Amazing Moves
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Agree on the down vote. You never talk **** about your own. Terrible representative of A&M. It's all about him and money. Can't stand him.

Escobars army
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You don't talk trash about any Aggie? I'll be talking chrap about DeAndre Jordan until he dies for what he pulled on the Mavs this offseason. F that guy!
Amazing Moves
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You don't talk trash about any Aggie? I'll be talking chrap about DeAndre Jordan until he dies for what he pulled on the Mavs this offseason. F that guy!
Players. Not fans. Players are a part of a brotherhood. It's called loyalty to your team. What he did is rediculous. It's pretty obvious. It shouldn't have to be explained or debated.


Fans can say whatever they want because they are just fans. It's part of what we do.


Do you understand?
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