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Street Fighter
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If someone who you did not know very well came to you and said they saw your sister molesting a kid, what would you do? Is it "truly sick" that you might not believe that person? What if you had referred the matter to you parents even though you really didn't believe it. Truly sick then? What abou later when nothing came of it and you assume your parents looked into it and found that the guy was mistaken or lying. Is that truly sick? What about even later when it turns out the accusations were true. Is that when it becomes truly sick?




So basically, Ken Lay was innocent too. Who would've thought.
AGinHI
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I should have done more

-Joe Paterno
Kemo Sabe
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Whitewash!

Get what u pay for!
KatyAg88
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The little box with writers pic on the right side states that the report is what it is, an agenda.
MSCAg
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Paterno's family is desperately trying to protect the estate's finances.
Evanhue
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Joe when told about the shower incident:

BMX Bandit
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Being reported now that Paterno knew in 1976

Look forward to 1aggie02 defense
Bobaloo
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I always wondered what Mrs Sandusky knew. Surely something...
VatoLocoAggie
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The people who believe this are the same people who believe polygraph results provided by a defendant's privately provided polygrapher should be admissible in court of law.

Paterno is a POS who knew.
BillYeoman
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Paterno was ALWAYS a POS!!!!!!


"I'm not going to give up college football to the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers of the world," he said, referring to the coaches at then trouble-plagued Pitt and Oklahoma, respectively.
TailG8TR
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Looks as though Joe knew for QUITE some time !

Reports of Joe knowing much earlier
Spaceball 1
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Being from PA and bring exposed to JoePA for so long I give him the benefit of the doubt. He was a good man.
AggieDPT
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Yeah a good man who allowed boys to be raped for multiple decades.
Spaceball 1
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You guys watch the 30 for 30 on Duke lacrosse yet? Put some stock in the community and players who knew him.

Sid Farkas
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report commissioned by Joe Paterno's
Stopped reading
AGinHI
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Penn State and Baylor should not have football programs.

Period.
45-70Ag
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You guys watch the 30 for 30 on Duke lacrosse yet? Put some stock in the community and players who knew him.




How about stock in he knew Sandusky was screwing a boy in the rear and an assistant coach let him know and he did nothing.
pagerman @ work
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Being from PA and bring exposed to JoePA for so long I give him the benefit of the doubt. He was a good man.

St. Joe put winning and his desire for a legacy above the direct safety of kids. He aided and abetted child rape for 30 years.

There is no definition of "good man" that can include Joe Paterno. The fact that the willfully blind in Pennsylvania and his former players want to keep lying to themselves when the facts are abundantly clear does not change the fact that Joe Paterno was a scumbag, made worse by his willingness to set himself up as some kind of moral arbiter on "doing things right".
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Being from PA and bring exposed to JoePA for so long I give him the benefit of the doubt. He was a good man.

St. Joe put winning and his desire for a legacy above the direct safety of kids. He aided and abetted child rape for 30 years.

There is no definition of "good man" that can include Joe Paterno. The fact that the willfully blind in Pennsylvania and his former players want to keep lying to themselves when the facts are abundantly clear does not change the fact that Joe Paterno was a scumbag, made worse by his willingness to set himself up as some kind of moral arbiter on "doing things right".
This. 100% THIS!
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Aggie football related because Sumlin is going to break the record for most wins in CFB.



Damn, how long is Sumlin going to live?
Jugstore Cowboy
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You guys watch the 30 for 30 on Duke lacrosse yet? Put some stock in the community and players who knew him.



Idiotic.

Respectfully.
8T2
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You guys watch the 30 for 30 on Duke lacrosse yet? Put some stock in the community and players who knew him.


Umm, have you watched it? The community and university turned on the players and coach immediately...and were ultimately WRONG in their beliefs.
Texaggie7nine
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I just want to get a grasp of what the consensus on what exactly Paterno's thought process was.

That he knew it was happening and just didn't care about the boys to the point where he willfully ignored that boys lives were being ruined under his nose, and decided to help keep it quiet to he could go on without any bad press and that Sandusky would never get caught?

Or do you think it more likely that Joe just refused to believe Sandusky was capable of that and lived in denial?

Seems to me that if Joe was just this evil guy that didn't care that boys were being abused but was aware enough of the damage it could do if it was found out would have the sense to know that it would be even more damage if it came out down the road after he did nothing. Surely, even if he didn't give 2 craps about the kids, he would still find it to be in his reputations best interest to out Sandusky at the time, because surely he would have seen it as likely he would eventually be caught.
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. . .
Or do you think it more likely that Joe just refused to believe Sandusky was capable of that and lived in denial?
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Another poster said it pretty well on another thread. I think he knowingly lived in denial. As long as he didn't have hard proof, he could just try not to think about it and hoped it came to nothing. That worked until his own assistant coach came to him, and there would be repercussions if he didn't pass it along up the chain of command.

The linked Deadspin article is brutal and contains the actual Order from the suit involving Penn St. and its Insurance Company. http://deadspin.com/court-opinion-reveals-joe-paterno-reportedly-knew-of-je-1775014993

There is evidence that Penn St. football coaches knew about a 1976, 1987, two 1988s, and a 1998 incident (where there was actually a police investigation into Jerry showering naked with a kid, and a "Joe" at Penn St. was avid to be kept in the loop according to the emails in the Freeh report), all before the 2001 incident which McQueary testified he told Paterno he witnessed, and Paterno confirmed.

The early dates (prior to 1998) have come to light from sealed, sworn depositions from disparate deponents in the lawsuit involving Penn State and its insurance company. The Court's Order in that suit largely sides with the Insurance Company and says that Penn St. is going to have to cover its own dime for policies in effect from 1992-1999.

If Penn St. paid out settlements to claimants from that time period as hush money, and to make the bad publicity go away, contesting the insurance company was a huge mistake. Now not only are they still on the hook for those monies, but they've elicited testimony that's been referenced in a Judge's Order that shows incidents and knowledge way beyond the 1998 previous time frame.
TailG8TR
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Deadspin article and actual Court Finding is pretty damning........

Deadspin and Court's Finding
oragator
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Deadspin article and actual Court Finding is pretty damning........

Deadspin and Court's Finding
flood gates pretty much opened tonight.

In the court case a victim says he told Paterno in 1976.
CNN has a story up that a victim alleges he was abused in 1971 and Paterno basically called him a liar.
NBC has a story up that at least 2 coaches witnessed the anise and one mentioned it in the coaches room about what he had just seen.

It's possible that there are some attention seekers out there, but these were all either proven victims (people who settled with PSU), or depositions in court cases. They aren't all lying.

But don't worry, PSU will still defend him and their school because JoePa couldn't be wrong or bad.
pagerman @ work
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So glad the NCAA restored his wins to him!
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Aggie football related because Sumlin is going to break the record for most wins in CFB.



Damn, how long is Sumlin going to live?
Gonna have to live to 150 or something
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So glad the NCAA restored his wins to him!
This, but for real
Jugstore Cowboy
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It's possible that there are some attention seekers out there, but these were all either proven victims (people who settled with PSU), or depositions in court cases. They aren't all lying.

Not saying it can't happen, but how often do males lie about having been molested by older men?
TMartin
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If the President of the United States can re-write 240 years of American history If tu can re-write the LBJ years. If the Clintons are really decent law abiding people. Well, reinventing Joe Pa is easy.
45-70Ag
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It's possible that there are some attention seekers out there, but these were all either proven victims (people who settled with PSU), or depositions in court cases. They aren't all lying.

Not saying it can't happen, but how often do males lie about having been molested by older men?



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