Why leave??? SEC is getting hard......We can do really good in the Big 12 if we just stay.

does anyone who has real inside info from reliable sources that can point to some hope that A&M will indeed take some action and bolt to the best conference in America. The SEC.

I'm ready for the SEC, let's do this thing

SEC West: TAMU, Arky, ou, osu, Ole Miss, lsu, Miss State

SEC East: AL, Auburn, GA, UT, USC, FL, KY, Vandy

Of course, they could just drop Vandy or maybe add Clemson & shift one of the Alabama schools.

We can be competitive! "Make it so #1!"

1 get rid of Byrne and other non- strategic thinkers afraid of change.

2 move to the SEC.

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Of course, they could just...shift one of the Alabama schools.

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Yea, who ever watches the Iron Bowl? No tradition there. Not like the tradition of whining on this board.

Anyone watch the Cotton Bowl? Anyone think that we were competitive?

Get over it and move on!

[This message has been edited by castell (edited 1/22/2011 11:40p).]

Technically, there is a flaw in the SEC divisions geographically:

Vanderbilt is west of Auburn. They are the only east school on Central time.

Anyone who is arguing that A&M shouldn't want to play in the SEC because we would 'lose to the big bad SEC teams' are extremely short sighted and quite frankly show a cowardice mind set.

Think for a minute, a large-scale university from Texas in the SEC.. let that sink in for a bit. Sure, the first couple of years could be rough but it's not like we've been spitting out 9+ win seasons this past decade in the Big 12.

Overtime A&M becomes a 'big bad SEC team' and we are already sitting on a hot-bed of in state talent for recruiting. We will be able to acquire high caliber recruits simply because we're the SEC team from Texas.

SEC team's fans don't want A&M to join the conference because then we suck up Texas recruits who are determined to play in the SEC.

In the end, the mentality "let's not do this because it will be hard" when given an oppurtunity to grow is just bad business.

A&M and Missouri would be a good addition to the SEC. And we all know Missouri wants out.

Maybe not an explanation but Byrne needs to say SOMETHING other than "God bless 'em" because otherwise it looks like we got played like a fiddle.

Is a B12 Network still in negotiations?

Is there a chance we can get our own money for Tier 3 rights?

Is there a compelling reason why we decided to stay in this conference even though it seems more and more like it is being set up for the benefit of one school only to the detriment of all the others?

Anytime you wanna clue us in...

Just wanted to reiterate that the purpose of moving to the SEC is NOT about winning

It is about:
Money
Prestige
Recruiting

But the main point is:
Getting out of the tsips shadow and far away from little brother school syndrome

Hey Ubben, I would rather be irrelevant in a conference that pays well and has a reputation for winning national championships than irrelevant in a conference that is run godfather style by a single school. I know that as a ESPN employee you are required to suck them off, but please don't pretend to us. We put up with more of their crap than anyone else. So go fudge yourself and get the fudge out!

[This message has been edited by hunter2012 (edited 1/25/2011 3:42p).]

Speakng as a pure Georgia Bulldawg, and stone cold SEC fan, I can throw a little light on how some of the SEC nation feels about this.

1) Come on Aggies. The SEC would love to have you as a part of the SEC family. You would bring a few things we like: TV audience, recruiting base, additional conference games, and additional revenue for all. And the bonus to this is the SEC offers the same to you.
2)The SEC probably does not want you to bring the likes of Missouri. Not a recruiting hotbed, and they would just bleed recruiting too. Your recruiting would see a nice advance in a couple of years, but I think it would happen. The east teams would benefit from access to Texas, and A&M would gain some from Lousiania, Alabama, Georgia and Florida-all recruiting hotbeds. Missouri is not a good TV draw either. Beside that..SEC fans like their warm climate, and don't really want to go to a November game in Missouri....the weather in Gainesville Florida, or Athens Georgia is a little nicer that time of year iI don't think they would bring real competition to the SEC in the long run. Not a real geographical or cultural fit. A&M fills both of those niches pretty well.
3) Should A&M decide to come to the SEC, I think Mike Slive, would target Oklahoma as an add-on for another west team, and possible Clemson & VaTech, for two east teams. I like OkSt, sort of, but they just don't offer much...but Oklahoma may not go without them. In that case, the SEC would probably look to Clemson, or maybe even Georgia Tech, to even things out.
However this thing turns out, I think the SEC would welcome A&M into the family pretty well. A&M probably would understand the conference pride thing pretty quickly, and that is a very important part of the mentality. It is an "us against the world" mindset, and I kind of think you Aggies have it already.
Academically you rank right in there with UGA, and Florida too. (ahead of Baylor for whatever that is worth to you)

McBuck is right. I think that most SEC fans would love for aTm to join the SEC. You have a lot to offer in terms of market, academics, and new recruiting grounds. The question isn't whether or not the SEC fans would want you, the real question is does the school presidents want to expand to 14 teams. I'm not sure that they would, especially being the first major conference to do it. With that said, you need to look at the fans that really don't want you to go to the SEC, and that is the t-sips & OU fans. They DO NOT want you guys moving to the SEC and having to compete with a SEC team in their backyard.

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"I hate arrogant SEC fans, but would thoroughly enjoy being one."

Don't know who sad this, but this is great!

ANd the bama fan is right....the sips don't want an SEC team in their backyard.


( Ilove that name..."Sips"...it's almost as good as "Gayturds" )

I do not want ou and osu going SEC with us. Leave them behind. Why dilute the recruiting advantage of being in the best football conference in America?

Because we would drag the Texas market even further into the SEC...

Those bastages from austin are looking out for themselves. Lets look out for ourselves. SEC.

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Never forget those who have come before you.

I appreciate the comments from you SEC guys. Hopefully one day we will join you.

I think the mention of Missouri comes from them wanting out of the conference as much as us.



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[This message has been edited by Old Main (edited 1/25/2011 2:56p).]

SEC!

Idiots...

Eastward ho!

Duh!

For real. Let's try and see if we can even compete in the Big 12 on a yearly basis before we start pissing our pants over the SEC. I say screw the SEC. It's not worth it. The recruiting won't drastically improve as all of you seem to think, and the Big 12 gives us our best chance to win.

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Let's try and see if we can even compete in the Big 12 on a yearly basis before we start pissing our pants over the SEC.

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So how is trying to compete in the Big 12 on a yearly basis working out for you? Don't you think it's time to try something different, especially now that your big brother has yet another advantage over you? Isn't doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results the definition of insanity?

Technically, but how do you think Edison invented the lightbulb or other people invented great things. Trying over and over, but A&M isn't doing the same thing every year. Obviously.

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how do you think Edison invented the lightbulb or other people invented great things

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Inventors working out of their garage seldom invent something first after a national laboratory has announced that they are committing resources to invent the same...

You're so concerned with squabbling for the scraps from t.u.'s table that you've missed your God-given right to something better. There's a difference between us: You think the people of Aggieland exist to provide you with revenue. I think your revenue exists to provide these people with quality football. And I go to the SEC to make sure that they have it.

S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C!

People saying we can't compete are acting as if moving to the SEC would have no effect on our recruiting or fire up the fan base. Not to mention the support that comes from all those people out there that pull for all Texas schools. (I've never understood those people but they are out there.)

I see it this way: Would you rather be a sub working to become a starter on the A Team OR would you rather be a starter on the B Team? I prefer the challenge of being with the best.

We would fit in SO MUCH better in the SEC. They have well-informed, passionate fans who love their school win or lose. That's exactly what the other schools in the Big 12 do not have. The closest thing we had was Nebraska and now their gone.

Nice braveheart reference, we should add V-tech to the East and just make them our rivalry game... I always liked playing the turkies