"comments like these are why other schools make fun of the corps."

Comments like the one you are referring to are the reason why I make fun of the corps.

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It also blew my mind how much Bill Clements lied and how he got re-elected amidst all this. I wondered when it happened how we could elect such a liar.

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The truth came out about Clements after he was elected in 1986. He was all about denial and throwing boosters under the bus until the death penalty hit.

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The one thing I did not understand back then and still don't today is why the NCAA did not punish the STUDENTS who took the money also.

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I don't understand why states do not make offering or accepting money under those circumstances a felony.

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I can't get over the fact that Patrick Duffy/Bobby Ewing is narrating.

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Another sign of ESPN's genius.

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95-21? How the **** did SMU score 21?

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Probably UH let SMU score so they could get the ball back & go for 100.

The Goodrich incident was not a cowardly attack on some cheerleaders behind a dorm. Goodrich had a heart problem and could have just as easily died on a simple run - it was just a coincidence that it happened during an air out.

These cheerleaders would have reported this and you would have been expelled minimum. You could have easily been charged with assault as well. It would have been all over the news.

I started in 1986, right after the Goodrich incident and not too long after the sabre incident. I was on the field in 1987 when LSU fans and mascot ran onto the field and taunted the crowd after the game - no Corps members attacked them, and the mascot was handcuffed and arrested by CSPD. If they had YouTube back then this would have been a video for the ages. For me, that was a proud moment to be in the Corps. No one took the bait and the LSU fans looked like the drunk fools that they were.

The beat down of the SMU cheerleader happened at Kyle Field as they left the track. I don't know were you get this behind the dorm thing. Oh and it's a shame that you didn't do something regarding the LSU thing. But then again things went to sheot after 1985. The wussification of the Corp began during your time.

seriously moth... you are either a troll or an idiot...

you are the exact reason why the corps is considered a huge joke to so many people rather than the well respected organization it probably should be

The ED Gold Trans AM, should be displayed in the new MSC, hell we paid for it. That would be classic awesome.

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the corps

nothing but embarrassment after embarrassment on national tv

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that's a bit strong there knucklehead

strong? a little... but not inaccurate

Moth is the exact reason why I never want to be considered a part of "old army."

Oh look... another "I'm more Aggie than you" pissing match...

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The wussification of the Corp began during your time.

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Go back to sh****bevo or whatever site you came from. If you are going to be a troll, at least have your posts proofread by someone who actually went to college (Tech excepted).

As a non-Corps Aggie, I've always like the existence of the Corps, what they represent, and their role in A&M's history, even though there are occassional jerks who think I'm less of an Aggie than them because I wasnt in the Corps. Those isolated few do not represent the Corps at large.

But for those few, who insist that A&M is no longer pure because of us non-reg students and former students, I have this question - If you have this opinion, why did you go to A&M and not West Point or Annapolis or the Air Force Academy? For really old army types who attended before the split, it's less of a question than those who came after.

Non-regs have contributed nothing? How quickly we've forgotten Bonfire

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As a classmate of Greg Hood's, I was in the stands that afternoon and here is what I remember:
We were getting thoroughly whipped in the game by SMU. My date (now wife) and I were not having a very good time at a game where the Aggies were playing poorly.

Their male cheerleaders ran out onto Kyle Field after (yet another) SMU touchdown to do their backflips and spell out "SMU". The 12th Man was not too happy in general and not too happy in particular about that behavior...

One of the Officers of the Day (Squadron 2 had OD duty that day), Greg Hood, lost his cool and ran out to confront the cheerleaders. None of the other Squadron 2 OD joined him, he acted (reacted) alone. At first all he did was yell at them to get off the field.

Then three or four SMU cheerleaders pushed Greg down a couple of times and he lost it even more and jumped up and pulled his saber.

A ceremonial saber of the kind used by OD at the time is not much use a weapon. They were usually pretty dull.

The national attention that ensued was truly embarrassing. A photo of Greg flying backwards, boots up in the air was on the front page of the Houston Chronicle the next day. Talking to Greg's roommate later that weekend he said that their phone had been ringing off the wall, mostly from media and some with support from old Ags.

Greg paid for his conduct the incident by being dismissed from school for the semester.

Looking back over the years I sometimes wish I could have gone down there and prevented him from running out, or gone out there and helped get him back to the sideline before things got too bad.

In Greg's defense I will say that those cheerleaders had no business going out there on the field like that. I would also say that the cheerleaders' actions after Greg first ran out onto the field had much to do with the situation escalating the way it did. But at the end of the day, Greg should not have lost his cool.

The discipline that the Corps provides gives people an opportunity to learn how to maintain composure in difficult situations. I would like to think that I would not have done the same thing Greg did had it been me out there as one of the OD, but in the right circumstances, I have to admit that I could have lost my cool just like any other 21 year old could on an unhappy afternoon in Aggieland.

So, we all put this behind us and move forward and remember that groups of young people in emotionally charged situations can sometimes do things that lead to deep regret. But we take the bad along with the good in Aggieland and try to do our part, in so much as we have control, to do things that reflect well on ourselves, our fine school, and our nation.

"Let your watchword be duty.."

Rock,

Whatever happened to Hood?

Good post. Thank you.

Hell Yeah!
Gig Em!

I lost track of Hood. I understand he come back to school and finish his degree. Maybe someone from Gator 2 will know.

I missed the show. Has Craig James ever admitted that SMU cheated during his time there?

I had a pretty good view of it from the near end zone, and there are a couple of things that no one has mentioned. First, Greg Hood ran up to one of the SMU cheerleaders who was lying on the ground, and kicked him while he was yelling at him. That was the first contact made by anyone. The second kick was the one you saw on the video, but the first one was more or less a sucker punch. The guy was just lying on the ground, and Hood kicked him. Then, when he got up, it was apparent that he was about a head taller than Hood, and he wasn't going to back down, that's when all the other crap happened that has been described. The thing that still stands out in my memory is that nobody stepped in to stop it right away after the initial confrontation. It was a major failure on the part of those who were legitimately on the field to maintain some sense of order. Things were allowed to escalate for 30 seconds to a minute, and everyone was just standing around watching these two guys face off. No mention has been made of Billy Cannon, Jr. who was on the field to receive the kickoff, grabbing Hood and pulling him far away from the action as things started to get heated again.

I was there with my future wife, and it was her first (and only) experience at an Aggie game, and it is her lasting memory of A&M. There was no justification for Hood's actions, and most Aggies remain thoroughly embarrassed about it.

Corps post 1990 = guys who played tennis in high school.


"Christ almighty, it's like I'm sittin' here playing cards with my brother's kids or somethin' you nerve-wracking sons-of-b**ches."

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I missed the show. Has Craig James ever admitted that SMU cheated during his time there?

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yes, he admitted that SMU did that

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Only a CT would call a "schoolyard prank" an assault by a male cheerleader.

Really?? You get pushed down by a male cheerleader and get your panties in a wad...sheesh. So now you lay a trap and steal a megaphone so you can get a few cheap shots in a male cheeleaders??

Really? Male cheerleaders??

Talk about when Old Army died....



MBAAg

My two cents:

The SMU Game: The score that day was 27-7, but statistically it was a much closer game than the scoreboard reflected. Shot ourselves in the foot a lot.

The saber incident: Hood did NOT charge onto the field with his saber drawn,,, he was provoked by the male cheerleader behind him and another one backing him up until he fell backwards over the one kneeling behind him. He lost it after that, no one was there to back him up, he was all by himself trying to protect the sacred ground of Kyle. In retrospect, we all wish it would have went down a little different. I personally don't begrudge Hood for his actions. I saw it all take place in front of me, I was in the 2nd deck. He was out of the corps after that, but he did come back to A&M as a non-reg.

I remember all the SMU probation and death penalty, but as a student back then, I didn't read up on all of the details. I thoroughly enjoyed the documentary. I was intrigued by the entire program. What a tangled web, complete with politics, rich alum, and the whole nine yards.

What I am thoroughly confused abuout, and what I want to know is,,,,, who the heck was Mark Lewis????? I remember lots of big name Aggies football players from that era, and for the life of me, cannot ever remember a Mark Lewis..... WhoTF???
And whatever we paid the guy, supposedly made the $20K offered to him by SMU look like chicken feed.

I don't know if anyone else caught it, but if you have it DVR'd, go back and look,,,,, when they were about to put a stop to it all, they conveniently had the commentary of "....putting a stop" or something like that,,, with a goal line stand by the WC being put on the ponies.....

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What I am thoroughly confused abuout, and what I want to know is,,,,, who the heck was Mark Lewis????? I remember lots of big name Aggies football players from that era, and for the life of me, cannot ever remember a Mark Lewis...

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He was a Sherrill era TE. Had a cup of coffee I'm the NFL.

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Corps post 1990 = guys who played tennis in high school.

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uh, wut?

If I remember correctly from the Junction Boys book, a saber was pulled on Elvis Presley when he performed at G. Rollie when he spit his gum on the floor.

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the sacred ground of Kyle.

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huh?

My father who is decidedly anti-aggie brings up the sabre incident to both my sister and I (both of us went to A&M against his wishes) about once or twice a football season. It is truly embarrassing and one of the things neither of us can defend.

I would love to see a sequel to Pony Express that expands the investigation/explanation to the entire conference at the time. And some comparison to what was going on around the country. They put the show together with a handful of reporters and some former Mustang players, boosters, and coaches. I'd like to hear from players and boosters from the rest of the conference.

The problem I saw with focusing on SMU, was their former players want the program to succeed now, so they want to spin it and put SMU in a positive light. Or at least point the negativity towards competing programs. Saying A&M gave me bags of cash and a car. tu personally threatened me and said I'd never work around here again. Yeah, but what did SMU give you? Umm, my grandma made the payments for the car, I'll leave it at that...haha. The reason I went to SMU was for my girlfriend..yeah, I got some things, but thats not why I chose to go there. In fairness I'd like to hear other players that didn't attend SMU, that probably still got stuff from them. Not just the disgruntled ones that were kicked off the team or didn't get playing time.

Moth: What tradition(s) are the results of something the non regs have done?

Well, considering the fact that A&M had no non-regs for about the first 90 years of its existence, your point is moot, d-bag.

Moth: "What proof do you need? I can go on, and on, and on if you like internet tough guy. I just joined Texags.com
What our outfit hump it? Events that happened my fish thru zip year? What dorm I was in? What dorm other outfits were in? I can go on, and on, and on.

How about our military advisor? Corps Commandant? What do you want to know?
Oh or the fact the my zip year the Corps almost got disbanded because of a hazing death???? Didn't know that did you?"

WOW! If he uses words like outfit, zip, and commandant, he HAS to be telling the truth!!!

Does anyone else have a mental image of Moth wearing a wife-beater, taking a crap in front of a mobile home?

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What tradition(s) are the results of something the non regs have done?

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Big Event anybody?
Red, White, and Blue Out?

May be more, but that's just kind of off the top of my head. Just saying that the answer is not "nothing"

Not one real CT on this thread has defended Hood. He made a dumb*ss move and he did it alone. Don't blame the entire Corps for the actions of one person 30 years ago.

Dear Moth

in addition to ones already mentioned above

- The way you get your ring (Ring Day)
- 2 non-reg yell leaders
- Maroon out
- E-walk
- bonfire
- Replant

Just to name a few

Firstly, hard to believe that Moth was really in the Corps when he's spelling it "Corp". Hopefully no one who received a good Aggie education would make that mistake, but it's pretty hard to believe from an alleged CT.

Secondly, it's stupid both for CTs to dis non-regs and vice-versa. If you're a non-reg who loves Aggie traditions, then you should appreciate that the majority of them were started by the Corps, and many of our best are very military themed, like Silver Taps and Muster. I don't know what to say if you don't hold those two sacred.

And for CTs saying non-regs aren't real Aggies, this is the height of irony on a message board about Aggie athletics. You're saying that Von Miller and Acie Law aren't real Aggies, you geniuses.

<-- former CT with many great Aggie friends, both CTs and non-regs.

PS Still waitin' on my Ag Tag, y'all.