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Huntington's Jarrett Fobbs, like Jackson a longtime Texas A&M commitment, visited LSU last weekend and came away impressed.

"It was nice," Fobbs said. "I was impressed with their business program."

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Latest Mays ranking:
http://maysbusiness.tamu.edu/index.php/mays-full-time-mba-program-breaks-into-top-ten-public-ranks/

Someone take this kid on a tour of Mays and solidify his commitment to the Ags.

If he was impressed with lsu business school he will be blown away by Mayes.

These guys are young and impressionable, I'm sure everywhere they go the college puts their best foot forward and impresses.

Maybe things have changed, but when I went through Mays, I have no problem saying that it was basically a 3 year Scantron exam. Mays ranking is great publicity for the school... but I'm just going to say it: I have a REALLY hard time believing Mays is really a top 40 business school.

what do you think other schools' undergrad business majors are like? if you think our's is easy, imagine LSU's!

...anyway, the high ranking and the link above are for the Mays MBA, not your scantron tests.

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9000 - were you a marketing major?

Well 9000 that would be like me saying I have a hard time believing the engineering program is good b/c the Zachary Building smells bad.

No... it really wouldn't. Because the smell of Zachary has absolutely nothing to do with academics. If I said the business school at A&M was overrated because there was a lack of parking around Wehner... then we'd be talking.

And I majored in Finance. I'm not saying EVERY class was this way, but a huge amount were. Again, it might have changed some now. But I'll say this... it was either the first or second semester my junior year. I took no electives... only business school classes. Specifically, I remember laughing a ton because every class was a complete Scantron class. That's ridiculous for 'upper level' courses.

The fact that employers' #1 biggest problem w/ entry level Aggies for a long time from the business program was their lack of writing and presentation skills just backs my observation. I don't think Wehner sucks by any means. But as of last year, Business Week ranked Mays undergrad 4th best in Texas. Not exactly a crown jewel.

Mays MBA =/= Mays undergraduate programs. This thread is stupid.

9000, you should have been an mis major if you wanted less scantron classes.

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I want to have an attacking defense that plays with a swagger. Tim Deruyter, Texas A&M DC, 01-23-2010

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If academics are even somewhat important to him I can't believe he would choose LSU over us. They are on Tech's level when it comes to that.

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BANA major here ... I recall very few , if any, Scantrons in any BANA classes. But I remember those Scantrons throughout a lot of the other classes (Mgmt, Mktg, Finc, Acct).

But then I am Class of '89 so my memory could be failing.

9000, for someone talking so much trash about Mays and how much time spent there, where's the Ag tag? I am not saying you aren't an Ag just saying maybe you don't have enough pride in your school to take 30 seconds to get one. Considering this is supposedly a key point in the recruitment of Fobbs, being an Ag, I wouldn't be spewing what you are spewing. If you check the recruiting board this same topic is there with links regarding our undergrad business rankings. They all still out rank lsu. Where exactly was this research of yours done?
"The fact that employers' #1 biggest problem w/ entry level Aggies for a long time from the business program was their lack of writing and presentation skills just backs my observation."
I am pretty sure that would be a problem with 90% of entry level employees. But am still curious where you got that statement. Is your job to go around the country interviewing companies on how they like entry level Ags and what they are lacking? In the case of this thread, a good Ag, should follow Thumper's Mom's mantra: "If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all"!
Why are there so many Ags so full of self-loathing? You don't have to be an in-your-face Ag but gee whiz, don't put our school down every chance you get!

E-3 I agree, it sounds like someone who is bitter or couldn't cut it. Not denying they skated by, but Mays is top level. Our MIS teams (which was open to all Mays students) did very well in case competitions this year with the Graduates winning regionals in Arizona and competing against other teams globally. Our undergrads will be heading to Singapore to compete there in the undergrad case competitions. These teams beat other schools which have better marketing "pedegree".

That's great news Yella. I revel in all Aggie successes! I just don't understand why others don't.

The use of Scantrons makes a program worthless? Ok...

He's right about the lack of writing.

Because the majors like business, science, math, etc had such little writing in their agendas, the school was forced to make it so that every student required 2 900 level classes (aka writing intensive). So now every student HAS to take a couple classes that focus on writing.

That problem didn't materialize out of thin air.

Funny to see some ags completely lose it and take it personal when someone doesn't think like they do. Hilarious.

If you can't write coherent sentences, especially in the business world where conciseness is preferred, then maybe there is more to your problem than getting a wrong answer on your scantron test.

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If you can't write coherent sentences, especially in the business world where conciseness is preferred, then maybe there is more to your problem than getting a wrong anser on your scantron test.

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Marketing really drags down the business school. (20% job placement last year) I would hate to see the rankings without accounting/PPA.

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Funny to see some ags completely lose it and take it personal when someone doesn't think like they do. Hilarious.

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i think its funny that internet tough guy syndrome is so rampant. its like people get on the interwebs and lose whatever filter they have. there is no way those types of morons would say half that crap to your face.

sshm, was this a uniquely A&M problem or more of an overall societal trend? I am just asking out of curiosity.
Big Daddy, who lost it?

rj, hello pot, I'm kettle!

People simply posting that they believe the rankings are correct is "completely losing it" and "hilarious"? We know from your posting under the guise of an Aggie that you don't get out much, but to be honest I never realized how unhealthy your obsession truly is. Wow.

Oh, you got me Tampa. A real zinger on that one. Yes it is "funny", "hilarious", and "pathetic" all rolled into one Tampa. Sorry for not having my Ag Tag. I know that means so much around these parts. Sorry to disappoint you fellas.

BTW, I don't think I mentioned that I don't think LSU is a good school, I am sure it is. I have no frame of reference, I just happen to like my school more than any other. --I guess I could have made that first sentence more clear, but I can't because I am just a dumb Ag --

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sshm, was this a uniquely A&M problem or more of an overall societal trend? I am just asking out of curiosity.
Big Daddy, who lost it?

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I'm not sure. I would guess the later, but then again we have a massive enrollment.

What are class sizes like in upper level classes in Mays? That usually has a lot to do with it.

I'm not sure of the upper level class sizes--it has been too many years since I was in school and even then I was a Liberal Arts (insert derogatory term of your choosing). The only times I was in Mays was to see my future wife. That is why I am asking the questions...I find it hard to believe our rankings would be as good as they are if we were putting out an inferior product or providing inferior instruction. Stranger things have happened though.

TAMU entrance requirements >>>>>>>>>>>> L$U's

HAHAHAHA Mays owns LSU's b- school. I bet at LSU all they teach you are the basics of how to run a crawfish company.

Kappa Sigma Fraternity- Est. 1869

Alright, looking at Google, I have discovered the following.

1. Our rankings for undergraduate business have improved dramatically since the writing intensive classes were added (whether there actually is a connection, I'm not sure).

2. In the rankings I looked at, our high ranking is based a lot off of facilities and job placement, but not on instruction (which is good but not great).

There is more to business to writing. Being weak in that area is a problem, but doesn't make Mays inferior if other programs are weak in other ways. At the same time, our rankings look like they are bumped up by the fact that Mays gets more money than God (Facilities), and the Aggie Network (Job placement).

After all that, I can still say without much of a doubt........





Our business school is still better than LSU's, who in terms of rankings got C's in all categories compared to our B and 2 A's.

sshm, Nice detective work! Intersting results. Thanks for putting some time into that.