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Byrne is misleading us.

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JeffHamilton82
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This is Bill's quote from this week's Wednesday report.

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One issue involves possible start times because a pay per view game must happen outside of the other Big 12 games being televised. Next week, Big 12 games are being televised at 11 a.m., 11:30 a.m., 2 p.m., 6 p.m., and 7 p.m. I'm confident few fans are eager to have breakfast or a midnight snack at Kyle Field to accommodate a pay per view audience.


Now tell me what you get out of Byrne's statement. It reads to me that you'll have to have a PPV game finished before 11am or not start till 10pm, so as to avoid conflict with any other televised Big 12 game.



Here are Big 12 some of the Big 12 PPV games from this year that prove this isn't true.

Aug 30 - W.Mi @ Neb; Chat @ OU and FL Atl @ tu all PPV at 6pm conflicts with IL @ MO at 7:30 on ESPN
Obviously there is a 1/2 a game overlap here.

Sept 6 - SE MO @ MO on PPV at 6pm conflicts with A&M @ NM at 4pm on Versus (1/2 game) AND!! LA Tech @ KS on FSN at 6pm (conflicts the entire game!!!) as well as MT st @ KSU on FCS also at 6pm.

Sept 13 - NM st @ Neb on PPV at 6pm conflicts with SMU @ Tech on FSSW at 6pm (conflicts the entire game) and with OU @ WA on ESPN at 6:45.


I tend not to trust someone when they mislead me.

I have no issue with Bill saying we will lose more in ticket sales than we will gain in PPV revenue if he can prove it, but I do have issue with him saying we can't do PPV because the only available times would be at breakfast or at 10pm or longer (insuation from his midnight snack comment).

Maybe nobody else cares that our AD makes misleading or outright false statements to us, but I do. And I wanted to point this out in case some of your weren't aware of Bill's public statements.
JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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My main issue is that Byrne puts no value in allowing former students who can't make it to games have the opportunity to see it.

I understand this is a business, but I have to imagine that him giving people that chance to see the team as much as possible is more likely to help stimulate interest than just not putting us on at all.
TAMU_89
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Excellent post.
Ishmael-Ag
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Giving people a chance to see a crappy team on tv = less people showing up.
diehard03
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Are there different rules for conference games versus non-conference games?
RPatrick
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^^^^

Very likely.
GiveUsRoom
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As is often the case with Byrne, he'd be much better off saying less. Every time this comes up, he should just say, "A lot of Aggies have asked about the possibility of Pay Per View for the game. There will never be another Pay Per View game while I am the A.D. "
diehard03
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Every time this comes up, he should just say, "A lot of Aggies have asked about the possibility of Pay Per View for the game. There will never be another Pay Per View game while I am the A.D."


This is not a true statement. He has always said that if we sell out, he will revisit PPV.
bthotu913
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You might want to check the rules with regard to BIG 12 GAMES and NON CONFERENCE GAMES before you go a rip the AD. Might save some face.
GiveUsRoom
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This is not a true statement. He has always said that if we sell out, he will revisit PPV.
Obviously you don't know Bill Byrne. If we sell out, he will revisit ticket prices until we don't.
JeffHamilton82
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You might want to check the rules with regard to BIG 12 GAMES and NON CONFERENCE GAMES before you go a rip the AD. Might save some face.


Why don't you post them? Thanks! I used the term "misleading" because there maybe more to this, but Byrne certainly didn't state any differences between conference and non-conference. And at this point I don't know if there are any. But if someone can link the tv contracts, I'll be happy to read them.

polish german
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you are wrong.

you stated "Byrne is misleading us"

you've insinuated that you are 100% sure that we are being lied to.

do your own research if you want to be 100% sure next time.
fumbler
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www.lsufootball.net/archives/tvschedule-2007.htm

$B is a dishonest liar!

Last year, on Saturday, Oct. 13th, Okie State and Nebraska played on PPV at 11:30 am.

tu played iowa state on FSN at 11:30 am that same day!
PatriotAg02
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Hulla Baller
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Someone please make another thread about Bill Byrne...I don't think we have enough.

[This message has been edited by Hulla Baller (edited 10/2/2008 11:52a).]
Whistle Jock
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$Bill is lying to us so I'm voting for Obam!
JeffHamilton82
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Last year, on Saturday, Oct. 13th, Okie State and Nebraska played on PPV at 11:30 am.

tu played iowa state on FSN at 11:30 am that same day!



Paging bthotu913 and polish german....
polish german
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My point was don't proclaim something, and then tell other people to go look it up for you.

As it stands now, you are correct.
_mpaul
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Holy Crap you people have too much time on your hands.
PatriotAg02
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More than likely the conflicting with other games rule is just for Texas A&M. All other Big 12 teams don't have to follow it. This must clearly be the case.
BMX Bandit
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its a rule.

found in same book as the "NCAA and Texas outlaw selling beer at football games"
JeffHamilton82
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polish - I have googled for the big 12 contract and have yet to find it. There are people here who are much better at the web than me. So I asked for help. If we can find the actual Big 12 contract and hopefully we can, and it proves my assertion against Byrne is wrong, then I will issue an apology. But it strongly appears that I am right and that Byrne was misleading us about the inflexibility of times. If that is the case and we haven't proven it one way or the other yet, but it looks like I'm right, then Byrne needs to drop that portion of his speech on why no PPV. And he should just stick with his revenue argument.

SABUILDERAG
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This is not a true statement. He has always said that if we sell out, he will revisit PPV.


Like it has been said. BB will not allow ticket prices to be affordable enough to sell out Kyle with season tickets.

Bill has done a great job making us successful in many sports, but his failure to produce a winning football team and ruining the atmosphere in Kyle will be his legacy until both are corrected.
94chem
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Obviously you don't know Bill Byrne. If we sell out, he will revisit ticket prices until we don't.



There were very good Dallas-Washington tickets available on Stub Hub for $55 last Sunday. It really woke me up to how much we pay for tickets at A&M. I mean, I already knew it, but dang, this was like a bucket of iced water.
BMX Bandit
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where is "very good"?
4ZORRO
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Jeff, your vision is very short. I believe in Coach Sherman.
deddog
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Its the special "$Bill clause" so he can get all of us to pony up for concessions.

Disingenuous but i don't expect any better from him ...


missinAggieland
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Giving people a chance to see a crappy team on tv = less people showing up.


Isn't is possible to have PPV in certain regions? So for the A&M games that are not televised, why not black out Texas and the state of the opponent, but allow PPV in all other regions of the country? This would satisfy Byrne's need to fill the stadium and the desire for out-of-state Aggies to watch games.
diehard03
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Like it has been said. BB will not allow ticket prices to be affordable enough to sell out Kyle with season tickets.


Are the $250 tickets sold out? If not, then this is just an excuse.
TXAggie2011
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Too many empty seats for PPV.



You've never shown to be to "on top of things" when it comes to trying to run an athletic department Jeff. I'll never forget that "sold their stadium naming rights to some insurance company called "Joe Jamail" comment..." about the Longhorns...


And BTW, selling the naming rights to Kyle Field is still a BAD idea.

[This message has been edited by TXAggie2011 (edited 10/2/2008 1:56p).]
ssolari94
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TXAggie2011
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tvquestions@big12sports.com


E-mail the Big 12 Office if you're really that concerned.
JeffHamilton82
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You've never shown to be to "on top of things" when it comes to trying to run an athletic department Jeff. I'll never forget that "sold their stadium naming rights to some insurance company called "Joe Jamail" comment..." about the Longhorns...


The sips did change their name to Joe Jamail field, but that's not an insurance co, he is a lawyer. He made a buttload of money off they Pennzoil vs Texaco lawsuit and became a really bigtime tu donor.

TXAggie2011
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Sigh.

He also got his BA and his law degree from Texas. Not quite the same thing you were trying to say it was.


(You thought it was an insurance company way back when, Jeff...that was back when your Kyle Field spiel created quite a stir on this website)

[This message has been edited by TXAggie2011 (edited 10/2/2008 2:18p).]
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