Need help identifying - Aggie military insignia

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whoop1995
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Found this at an antique store and it was labeled - Texas A&M 1886 - the owner said he thought is was an ordnance pin from the Spanish American war but I can't really verify as it looks different than the ones I am pulling up.

It doesn't look like ww1 or ww2 either. Next to my ring size 11.

OldArmy71
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I can't read what it says on the pin.

Is it "A&M College of Texas"?

Is there a date?

A&M did not adopt maroon and white as colors until the early 1900s.

I don't know where the store got the 1886 date.

Prior to 1961 the Corps of Cadets was organized by branches of the US Army: Infantry, Field Artillery, Chemical Corps, Ordnance, etc.

This looks like a pin from the 30s, 40s, or 50s when the Corps was organized in that way.


EDITED TO ADD: I just took a quick glance at my father's old yearbooks--1941 and 1942--and did not find any Ordnance units in the Corps.

However, I looked in the 1955 Aggieland (online) and there are indeed Ordnance units in the Corps, and their symbol sort of matches the one with the pin. I would say this is a pin from the 1950s.





whoop1995
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A&M college of Texas State - was thinking it could be early 1900's with a real military pin added later, pin backings look newer so probably not - thought I would take a chance for $20.
BQ78
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That's the symbol from the 19th century for grenadiers. A flaming bomb.


CanyonAg77
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Could it be a sweetheart pin of some sort? Like if you were Ordnance, you'd give your girl this to wear!
CanyonAg77
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Also, if you believe the link below, the seal in the OP pic was used until about 1947

https://www.goodbullhunting.com/platform/amp/2015/4/30/8519979/searching-for-answers-the-texas-a-m-university-seal
OldArmy71
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CanyonAg77 said:

Could it be a sweetheart pin of some sort? Like if you were Ordnance, you'd give your girl this to wear!
I was thinking the same thing.
CT'97
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I think you are right on the age, but I am not sure those were originally connected.

It looks to me like a tie tack that was later connected to the ordnance corps/grenadier pin. I swear I have seen an A&M tie tack with a similar A&M seal on it before.
aalan94
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Quote:

That's the symbol from the 19th century for grenadiers. A flaming bomb.
Don't really need to correct you, as you are the expert on things, but that is an actual grenade (hence grenadier). As in a early, Nelson-era grenade, which was a ceramic pot with combustable material inside.
Rusty the Cat
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I believe that this tie tack was made by the Kinney Co, providence, R.I.. I have one just like it, except mine has University instead of college. mine does not have the flaming grenade, which may have been added later.

I got mine in the mid-late 60's, so this may be from the "transition period" between A&M College and A&M University.
CanyonAg77
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So if the seal is the tie tac, where does the flaming onion go?
CT'97
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Pure speculation, but on the army mess dress uniform there is a chain worn with two buttons on either end to hold the jacket together. Maybe it's used in a similar fashion?
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