Why did Rhee not unify the peninsula when Pyongyang was captured in the UN counterattack after the Inchon landing? What could we have done differently in regards to solving the problem of Korea?
We pushed the Soviets to declare war on Japan three months after Germany was defeated. Also, without that material support, many many more American lives would have been lost in the European and Pacific theaters.MGS said:
Not give material support to the Russians in WW2 so they wouldn't be able to invade Manchuria and Korea in August 1945?
Old RV Ag said:We pushed the Soviets to declare war on Japan three months after Germany was defeated. Also, without that material support, many many more American lives would have been lost in the European and Pacific theaters.MGS said:
Not give material support to the Russians in WW2 so they wouldn't be able to invade Manchuria and Korea in August 1945?
that's good what if. But I thought I had read that Stalin had some pretty good spies in Japan and they thought it was pretty safe to move divisions west to defend Stalingrad.fasthorse05 said:
I've wondered if Hitler ever tried to talk the Japanese into attacking Vladivostok? I know the Russians crushed the Japanese before, and didn't want to mess with the Russians, but it certainly would have made it possible for the German's to either get Moscow (and kill Stalin), or for Paulus to take Stalingrad.
I understand the Japanese were stretched to the limit, although not so much in '42, but had they feinted an invasion in order to make Stalin (Zukov) put a couple of divisions on the east coast, perhaps the Russians wouldn't have sowed so many evil seeds.
Just a thought in an alternate universe.
Stalin had lots of his army in the east to defend against Japan. Right before Pearl Harbor, Japan negotiated a peace treaty with the USSR. Japan then attacked Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. Stalin then moved most of the remaining troops west - this sunk the Germans. They were the USSR's best troops and they were winter troops from Siberia. Once Japan took on the US they weren't going to add Russia. And, yes, Stalin had an incredible network of spies so he was confident of that.BQ_90 said:that's good what if. But I thought I had read that Stalin had some pretty good spies in Japan and they thought it was pretty safe to move divisions west to defend Stalingrad.fasthorse05 said:
I've wondered if Hitler ever tried to talk the Japanese into attacking Vladivostok? I know the Russians crushed the Japanese before, and didn't want to mess with the Russians, but it certainly would have made it possible for the German's to either get Moscow (and kill Stalin), or for Paulus to take Stalingrad.
I understand the Japanese were stretched to the limit, although not so much in '42, but had they feinted an invasion in order to make Stalin (Zukov) put a couple of divisions on the east coast, perhaps the Russians wouldn't have sowed so many evil seeds.
Just a thought in an alternate universe.
we did push them back across the 38th parallel, we got close to China and they sent over 4-5 divisions and pushed us back across the 38th parallel until the lines stabilized and turned into stalemate which still exist today technically.C1NRB said:
Other than M*A*S*H, all I know about Korea I learned from Back to School:
[url=https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0455630/?ref_=tt_trv_qu][/url]Professor Terguson (Sam Kinison): You remember that thing we had about 30 years ago called the Korean conflict? And how we failed to achieve victory? How come we didn't cross the 38th parallel and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China?
Thornton Melon (Rodney Dangerfield): [incensed] All right. I'll say it. 'Cause Truman was too much of a ****** wimp* to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those Commie *******s!
Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.
All things being equal, this is true from a Theater, military perspective and only if we were willingly to stand on the Yalu and keep them out. However, all things weren't equal...UTExan said:
TR Fehrenbach wrote a really good book about the conflict from an infantry officer's perspective called This Kind of War. He is a Texan historian whose specialties are the state, the Rangers and Mexican history. The only way to have won that war was to allow McArthur to speed to the Yalu after blowing the bridges across the river. It was ridiculous to allow safe haven for Communist forces in Manchuria. And neither the Soviets nor the Chinese would have been in position to do much about it with our deployed forces based on what I have researched so far.