YouBet said:

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I can't believe there are two Land Cruiser recommendations on here.

Did Toyota buy them and slap the LC badge on a Hilux?

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I read this post about 15 times and I just kept getting more and more confused.

@NFLPlayerProps said:

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YouBet said:

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I can't believe there are two Land Cruiser recommendations on here.

Did Toyota buy them and slap the LC badge on a Hilux?

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I read this post about 15 times and I just kept getting more and more confused.

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Ditto.

$2000 in repairs in 10 years? The horror!

JK

Another way to look is $2000 is just a few months of new car payments, not 60 months

Mom had a 2006 Cadillac she intended to drive forever. It developed an electrical gremlin that no one could find, drained the battery in a couple of days.

It was too damn low, the new caddys were all SUVs that were too tall.

We found a Toyota Crown was the Goldilocks height of not too tall not too short. Had never heard of them

Car salesman said he'd never sold a new car to a 92-year-old before

People on this board are WAY too scared of modern turbos.

Teslag said:

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People on this board are WAY too scared of modern turbos.

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Here's the problem. Those new turbos are not forgiving on oil changes. Here's why: there is no way for the consumer to know if it's been engaged right before you turn the car off. You should let the vehicle idle for a few minutes right before you turn the key off.

Do you think people do this? No. Do you think people change the oil at 5k every time? No. This wears out engine and turbos. This majorly decreases engine life. This in turn decreases resell value.

Would you buy a used turbo engine on what was a mainstream vehicle like a GX or a Tundra?

techno-ag said:

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Teslag said:

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People on this board are WAY too scared of modern turbos.

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300,000 recalls from Toyota alone. And they're supposed to be one of the better ones in terms of QC. The concern is legit.

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Toyota's recent turbo wasn't the first and only turbo. They just got it wrong. Plenty others have been fine.

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Would you buy a used turbo engine on what was a mainstream vehicle like a GX or a Tundra?

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I'd buy any used GM 2.7 Turbomax truck and not have a single worry about it. It's probably the most reliable half ton engine on the market right now.

CanyonAg77 said:

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$2000 in repairs in 10 years? The horror!

JK

Another way to look is $2000 is just a few months of new car payments, not 60 months

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Haha. That's just this past week. But most of the rest is considered routine maintenance. Replaced engine mounts, transmission service, power steering service, etc. Only non- routine maintenance was the coolant breather hose in the valley of the engine. Known failure issue on those. I have ignored the seeping timing chain cover.

austinag1997 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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15 years is a cake walk for most any modern vehicle, assuming you are driving 10,000 to 15,000 miles a year.

Also assumes:

Safe driver

Keep it clean

Moderate use (no extreme conditions or regular aggressive stops/starts)

Consistent, regular, quality, maintenance and parts

Garage

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Probably true. I have a 2016 Porsche Cayenne S. I still really like it but just spent over $2000 on it. Mainly due to leaking valve covers. Just under 97k miles. Parts are never a problem.

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I just looked up the production numbers out of curiosity. Looks like they sell about 18,000 Cayennes a year in the USA.
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/porsche-cayenne-sales-figures/

That's not a lot but, they do have really long generational lifecycles compared to many vehicles.
And frankly, to the casual observer, it's difficult to easily tell the difference between the first 3 generations. The 2026 4th Gen EV model looks considerably different.

Cayenne G1 - 2003
Cayenne G2 - 2011
Cayenne G3 - 2019